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2020 Presidential Election (All Serious POVs Welcome)

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Donald Trump
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Joe Biden
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Howie Hawkins
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Post#601 » by Pointgod » Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:36 pm

BallSacBounce wrote:This is the kind of stuff that gets us boiling mad ready to crawl across broken glass to vote for Trump.

Facebook putting their fingers in the scale in an absurd way, censoring perfectly legitimate reasoned arguments because they go against the liberal narrative.

In a clear case of self defense Facebook chooses to grossly mischaracterize it as "mass murder." What buffoons. Can't wait till the lawyers get going on this one. The kid was obviously chased by a group, under attack and tried to get away at every turn till they left him no choice.

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Facebook Declares Kyle Rittenhouse’s Actions ‘Mass Murder,’ Won’t Allow Posts in Support

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/09/02/facebook-declares-kyle-rittenhouses-actions-a-mass-murder-wont-allow-posts-in-support/

Dice’s post on Facebook did not praise Rittenhouse, but merely described the video.

“Newly uncovered video of Kyle Rittenhouse shows him helping an injured protester after she was struck in the foot with a projectile,” said Dice’s post. “In another video he told the cameraman that he brought a medical kit, which is the bag he was carrying. Further proving he had no malicious intent by showing up. In fact, he was there to help anyone who needed it.”

In a comment to Breitbart News, Dice said he was being deliberately careful about what he posted, because he guessed that Facebook had added Rittenhouse to its infamous “dangerous individuals” list.

“[The posts] were all very matter of fact about what happened. No praise, nor celebration, nothing like that because I figured that they added Kyle to the “dangerous individual” [list],” said Dice. “I was very careful about what I posted.”



So you’re ready to crawl through broken glass and vote for Trump all on the defence of a guy charged with 3 counts of homicide? And people claim Jacob Blake is not the a hill to die on yeesh.
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Post#602 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:54 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:It'll be Militia on Militia violence, lone wolf terrorism, lynchings, the works.


Nah, COVID will be spiking all over the place. And even if they right wing militias end up taking the streets, who are they going to fight? The election will be over.

Right. So simple. No lingering anger anywhere nor no one to stir it up.


Good COVID! You keep everyone safe now, okay?

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Post#603 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:59 pm

Pointgod wrote:Wingo should read this. This is why you don’t push baseless information and help do Russia’s work for them.

Read on Twitter


Yes indeed, but that's why I've felt like :banghead:

And when you're done, please be sure to file that away in the archives under No Chit Sherlock
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Post#604 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:02 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
One reason to get the biggest margins possible is to give the military any justification they need to protect the transition of President-Elect Biden if Trump tries to barricade himself in the WH.

I'm actually not at all enthused about any form of military intervention since that sets a terrible precedent, but if Trump tries to steal this then I will back a coup as long as they hand the reigns back to the Biden administration.

It'll be Militia on Militia violence, lone wolf terrorism, lynchings, the works.


Nah, COVID will be spiking all over the place. And even if they right wing militias end up taking the streets, who are they going to fight? The election will be over.


Buzz is correct though. It is already happening and it will continue to happen when Trump claims he was cheated and then tweets Liberate! again
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Post#605 » by robillionaire » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:05 am

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K-DOT wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
The radical Right created the radical Left. And now, the super saiyan of the radical Right (QAnon) has infiltrated politics. I can only imagine what the Left birthchild of that will be.

You say that like the Dems didn't just nominate Joe Biden, who is about as radical left as a Y axis

The far left has almost no political power in America, and that's been the case since basically forever, while the far right is now the main base of the Republican party, as evidenced by the growing number of QAnon believers entering politics.


Far left has a lot of political influence, the Dems wouldn't pander to them so much if they didn't. I began to distance myself from liberals when I noticed that they had a low tolerance for difference of opinion. They'll get you fired, ruin your life just because you don't go along with everything they say.


the dems pander to the republicans more than they do us
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Post#606 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:06 am

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So you’re ready to crawl through broken glass and vote for Trump all on the defence of a guy charged with 3 counts of homicide? And people claim Jacob Blake is not the a hill to die on yeesh.


We can't expect anything better than butthurt claims of prejuidice from a hardcore supporter of a fascist white nationalist who cites Breitbart as their news feed.
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Post#607 » by Knick4Real » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:19 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:It'll be Militia on Militia violence, lone wolf terrorism, lynchings, the works.


Nah, COVID will be spiking all over the place. And even if they right wing militias end up taking the streets, who are they going to fight? The election will be over.


Buzz is correct though. It is already happening and it will continue to happen when Trump claims he was cheated and then tweets Liberate! again


100% CORRECT!!

The violence we've seen in the streets over the summer will be child's play compared to what's coming. If Trump loses, all those secret militia groups that have done nothing but train for warfare in the woods for the past decade will come out of the shadows. They've been itching for war and a Trump loss would be their moment to sound the alarm and jump into action.
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Post#608 » by robillionaire » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:19 am

Pointgod wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:This is the kind of stuff that gets us boiling mad ready to crawl across broken glass to vote for Trump.

Facebook putting their fingers in the scale in an absurd way, censoring perfectly legitimate reasoned arguments because they go against the liberal narrative.

In a clear case of self defense Facebook chooses to grossly mischaracterize it as "mass murder." What buffoons. Can't wait till the lawyers get going on this one. The kid was obviously chased by a group, under attack and tried to get away at every turn till they left him no choice.

Clown World

Facebook Declares Kyle Rittenhouse’s Actions ‘Mass Murder,’ Won’t Allow Posts in Support

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/09/02/facebook-declares-kyle-rittenhouses-actions-a-mass-murder-wont-allow-posts-in-support/

Dice’s post on Facebook did not praise Rittenhouse, but merely described the video.

“Newly uncovered video of Kyle Rittenhouse shows him helping an injured protester after she was struck in the foot with a projectile,” said Dice’s post. “In another video he told the cameraman that he brought a medical kit, which is the bag he was carrying. Further proving he had no malicious intent by showing up. In fact, he was there to help anyone who needed it.”

In a comment to Breitbart News, Dice said he was being deliberately careful about what he posted, because he guessed that Facebook had added Rittenhouse to its infamous “dangerous individuals” list.

“[The posts] were all very matter of fact about what happened. No praise, nor celebration, nothing like that because I figured that they added Kyle to the “dangerous individual” [list],” said Dice. “I was very careful about what I posted.”



So you’re ready to crawl through broken glass and vote for Trump all on the defence of a guy charged with 3 counts of homicide? And people claim Jacob Blake is not the a hill to die on yeesh.


this poster is a known supporter of various mass murderers and right wing terror attacks, wish people would stop quoting him. also note the "clown world" remark feel free to google that to see what that's all about
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Post#609 » by Knick4Real » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:27 am

robillionaire wrote:this poster is a known supporter of various mass murderers and right wing terror attacks, wish people would stop quoting him. also note the "clown world" remark feel free to google that to see what that's all about


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Post#610 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:29 am

robillionaire wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
So you’re ready to crawl through broken glass and vote for Trump all on the defence of a guy charged with 3 counts of homicide? And people claim Jacob Blake is not the a hill to die on yeesh.


this poster is a known supporter of various mass murderers and right wing terror attacks, wish people would stop quoting him. also note the "clown world" remark feel free to google that to see what that's all about


I didn't know about that. Went and looked. So it is just another variant of the KEK BS and Pepe the Frog.

That is definitely who this guy is. And look at him pretending to have been personally offended by being called out by me for EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE. They are a crypto-fascist pot stirrer.

They are a 4Chan troll who supports Trump. Donald Trump is their everything. They don't care about any of us and what happens to us in a world run by Trumps.

And now maybe people can wise up and understand why I said don't feed this one, because their true identity is as a troll in the deep state troll world of Q and they come to this board to try to get people to normalize them.

Oh, my kind are being shunned, cried the hurt little fascist sympathizer!

Yes, you are. I don't think you should expect anything less in the future.

Don't respond to them.
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Post#611 » by Pointgod » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:36 am

robillionaire wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
BallSacBounce wrote:This is the kind of stuff that gets us boiling mad ready to crawl across broken glass to vote for Trump.

Facebook putting their fingers in the scale in an absurd way, censoring perfectly legitimate reasoned arguments because they go against the liberal narrative.

In a clear case of self defense Facebook chooses to grossly mischaracterize it as "mass murder." What buffoons. Can't wait till the lawyers get going on this one. The kid was obviously chased by a group, under attack and tried to get away at every turn till they left him no choice.

Clown World

Facebook Declares Kyle Rittenhouse’s Actions ‘Mass Murder,’ Won’t Allow Posts in Support

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/09/02/facebook-declares-kyle-rittenhouses-actions-a-mass-murder-wont-allow-posts-in-support/



So you’re ready to crawl through broken glass and vote for Trump all on the defence of a guy charged with 3 counts of homicide? And people claim Jacob Blake is not the a hill to die on yeesh.


this poster is a known supporter of various mass murderers and right wing terror attacks, wish people would stop quoting him. also note the "clown world" remark feel free to google that to see what that's all about


Yeah I had no idea about the clown world. There’s no way the use of it wasn’t in some way intentional. Sad that anyone subscribed to that type of thinking, even sadder that it’s being pushed on a basketball forum :lol:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clown_World
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Post#612 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:04 am

Knick4Real wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Nah, COVID will be spiking all over the place. And even if they right wing militias end up taking the streets, who are they going to fight? The election will be over.


Buzz is correct though. It is already happening and it will continue to happen when Trump claims he was cheated and then tweets Liberate! again


100% CORRECT!!

The violence we've seen in the streets over the summer will be child's play compared to what's coming. If Trump loses, all those secret militia groups that have done nothing but train for warfare in the woods for the past decade will come out of the shadows. They've been itching for war and a Trump loss would be their moment to sound the alarm and jump into action.


It's either way.
Trump loses, claims he was cheated, goes on to monetize poor white racial animus\rural poor white feelings of being "overlooked" etc, and the nuts with guns come out.

Trump wins, center left, far left hit the streets, agitator types (a small %, like the right wing gun nuts) start breaking sh*t - probably joined with more enthusiasm by larger groups because of a feeling of being ripped off in the election, Trump encourages local police to act out, adds federal law enforcement to the mix, right wing militias join in, entire thing spins out of control like above, just with a different spark to start it.

It's coming. We working on 25 years of each side demonizing the other in politics, calling them less than American, less than human. Obviously, I think the right wing of the country is worse with this kind of behavior, but the left wing is not without sin here.

Sh*t breaks lose, add about 500 to 1000 bodies to the pile, big business steps in to get the government to calm stuff down since instability is bad for business and in about a year things smoothe out some and none of the systemic issues are solved.

Other than that, things looking good.
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Post#613 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:06 am

I don’t like this

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Post#614 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:10 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Nah, COVID will be spiking all over the place. And even if they right wing militias end up taking the streets, who are they going to fight? The election will be over.

Right. So simple. No lingering anger anywhere nor no one to stir it up.


Good COVID! You keep everyone safe now, okay?

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So cute.

Did covid keep right wing gun nuts out of state houses? No.
Did covid keep righteous black lives matter protesters out of the streets? No.
Did covid keep the nutty anarchist\syndicalist types away from the BLM protests, breaking ****? No.
Did covid keep right wing militias and right wing drive by caravans away from BLM protests? No.

It's coming. I'm 100% certain. It's just the matter of degree.
The country is ready for it. Hasn't had widespread national riots in about 50 years, serious ones with real death.
Just like nearly every social thing seems to have about a 50 year shelf life - just like the country decided it was ok being policed up the ass and back, but now it doesn't.
The 50 year reactionary period from Nixon on is closing, but it's not going to go quietly.
Sure, at some point, things will get solved with politics, but the collective memory is a little short on what happens when we really go at each other with some bloodshed, so it's going to have it's moment for a little while.

So, it's just how much, and for how long, but it's going to happen.
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Post#615 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:22 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Right. So simple. No lingering anger anywhere nor no one to stir it up.


Good COVID! You keep everyone safe now, okay?

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So cute.

Did covid keep right wing gun nuts out of state houses? No.
Did covid keep righteous black lives matter protesters out of the streets? No.
Did covid keep the nutty anarchist\syndicalist types away from the BLM protests, breaking ****? No.
Did covid keep right wing militias and right wing drive by caravans away from BLM protests? No.

It's coming. I'm 100% certain. It's just the matter of degree.
The country is ready for it. Hasn't had widespread national riots in about 50 years, serious ones with real death.
Just like nearly every social thing seems to have about a 50 year shelf life - just like the country decided it was ok being policed up the ass and back, but now it doesn't.
The 50 year reactionary period from Nixon on is closing, but it's not going to go quietly.
Sure, at some point, things will get solved with politics, but the collective memory is a little short on what happens when we really go at each other with some bloodshed, so it's going to have it's moment for a little while.

So, it's just how much, and for how long, but it's going to happen.


Not everyone is satisfied with settling their differences by expressing their opinion. There is definitely a big wedge of grudgeful Trumpers with itchy trigger fingers and once they start wilding it will bring out the monkey wrenchers to retaliate. And then you will have the pissed off brothers who aren't sitting on their hands if one of their buddies are taken out by a John Bircher gone wild, because we already have tape of white cops waiting for the purge to cleanse the blacks. Once the ball gets rolling, its going to get nasty. Covid? ha ha ha Most of the initiators think Covid is a hoax.
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Post#616 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:26 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Good COVID! You keep everyone safe now, okay?

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So cute.

Did covid keep right wing gun nuts out of state houses? No.
Did covid keep righteous black lives matter protesters out of the streets? No.
Did covid keep the nutty anarchist\syndicalist types away from the BLM protests, breaking ****? No.
Did covid keep right wing militias and right wing drive by caravans away from BLM protests? No.

It's coming. I'm 100% certain. It's just the matter of degree.
The country is ready for it. Hasn't had widespread national riots in about 50 years, serious ones with real death.
Just like nearly every social thing seems to have about a 50 year shelf life - just like the country decided it was ok being policed up the ass and back, but now it doesn't.
The 50 year reactionary period from Nixon on is closing, but it's not going to go quietly.
Sure, at some point, things will get solved with politics, but the collective memory is a little short on what happens when we really go at each other with some bloodshed, so it's going to have it's moment for a little while.

So, it's just how much, and for how long, but it's going to happen.


Not everyone is satisfied with settling their differences by expressing their opinion. There is definitely a big wedge of grudgeful Trumpers with itchy trigger fingers and once they start wilding it will bring out the monkey wrenchers to retaliate. And then you will have the pissed off brothers who aren't sitting on their hands if one of their buddies are taken out by a John Bircher gone wild, because we already have tape of white cops waiting for the purge to cleanse the blacks. Once the ball gets rolling, its going to get nasty. Covid? ha ha ha Most of the initiators think Covid is a hoax.


Ding.
What's going on in cities isn't sh*t right now for what is coming.
Police are really going to get to try out all that up armor gear and paramilitary training.
Tough to fight a war in a crowded urban guerilla environment where 75% of the population is against you.

Should be autumn fun and good times.
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Post#617 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:32 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
So cute.

Did covid keep right wing gun nuts out of state houses? No.
Did covid keep righteous black lives matter protesters out of the streets? No.
Did covid keep the nutty anarchist\syndicalist types away from the BLM protests, breaking ****? No.
Did covid keep right wing militias and right wing drive by caravans away from BLM protests? No.

It's coming. I'm 100% certain. It's just the matter of degree.
The country is ready for it. Hasn't had widespread national riots in about 50 years, serious ones with real death.
Just like nearly every social thing seems to have about a 50 year shelf life - just like the country decided it was ok being policed up the ass and back, but now it doesn't.
The 50 year reactionary period from Nixon on is closing, but it's not going to go quietly.
Sure, at some point, things will get solved with politics, but the collective memory is a little short on what happens when we really go at each other with some bloodshed, so it's going to have it's moment for a little while.

So, it's just how much, and for how long, but it's going to happen.


Not everyone is satisfied with settling their differences by expressing their opinion. There is definitely a big wedge of grudgeful Trumpers with itchy trigger fingers and once they start wilding it will bring out the monkey wrenchers to retaliate. And then you will have the pissed off brothers who aren't sitting on their hands if one of their buddies are taken out by a John Bircher gone wild, because we already have tape of white cops waiting for the purge to cleanse the blacks. Once the ball gets rolling, its going to get nasty. Covid? ha ha ha Most of the initiators think Covid is a hoax.


Ding.
What's going on in cities isn't sh*t right now for what is coming.
Police are really going to get to try out all that up armor gear and paramilitary training.
Tough to fight a war in a crowded urban guerilla environment where 75% of the population is against you.

Should be autumn fun and good times.


Quote myself
"Guerilla war" sounds a bit much.
I just meant that if the cops really come out of their bag with the militaristic tactics, it's going to escalate back at them, and that there will be people coming at them with violence, but a population not willing to help them find the "perpetrators"
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Post#618 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 3, 2020 2:29 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Not everyone is satisfied with settling their differences by expressing their opinion. There is definitely a big wedge of grudgeful Trumpers with itchy trigger fingers and once they start wilding it will bring out the monkey wrenchers to retaliate. And then you will have the pissed off brothers who aren't sitting on their hands if one of their buddies are taken out by a John Bircher gone wild, because we already have tape of white cops waiting for the purge to cleanse the blacks. Once the ball gets rolling, its going to get nasty. Covid? ha ha ha Most of the initiators think Covid is a hoax.


Ding.
What's going on in cities isn't sh*t right now for what is coming.
Police are really going to get to try out all that up armor gear and paramilitary training.
Tough to fight a war in a crowded urban guerilla environment where 75% of the population is against you.

Should be autumn fun and good times.


Quote myself
"Guerilla war" sounds a bit much.
I just meant that if the cops really come out of their bag with the militaristic tactics, it's going to escalate back at them, and that there will be people coming at them with violence, but a population not willing to help them find the "perpetrators"



So what are you two guerrillas going to do to prepare for the Armageddon? :lol:
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Post#619 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Sep 3, 2020 2:32 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Ding.
What's going on in cities isn't sh*t right now for what is coming.
Police are really going to get to try out all that up armor gear and paramilitary training.
Tough to fight a war in a crowded urban guerilla environment where 75% of the population is against you.

Should be autumn fun and good times.


Quote myself
"Guerilla war" sounds a bit much.
I just meant that if the cops really come out of their bag with the militaristic tactics, it's going to escalate back at them, and that there will be people coming at them with violence, but a population not willing to help them find the "perpetrators"



So what are you two guerrillas going to do to prepare for the Armageddon? :lol:


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Post#620 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Sep 3, 2020 2:32 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Ding.
What's going on in cities isn't sh*t right now for what is coming.
Police are really going to get to try out all that up armor gear and paramilitary training.
Tough to fight a war in a crowded urban guerilla environment where 75% of the population is against you.

Should be autumn fun and good times.


Quote myself
"Guerilla war" sounds a bit much.
I just meant that if the cops really come out of their bag with the militaristic tactics, it's going to escalate back at them, and that there will be people coming at them with violence, but a population not willing to help them find the "perpetrators"



So what are you two guerrillas going to do to prepare for the Armageddon? :lol:


I have guns and a bunker where the sandbags are made out of dog food. If I go through all my canned goods, I can eat part of the bunker. Obviously my defense takes a hit.
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