The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 6)

[PaulieWal]

Too bad NBA voters decided Giannis had won MVP in January and were too embarrassed to change their mind the rest of the way.

Come on, you are better than that. His MVP is well deserved, it's a RS award and he is very deserving.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Meh, not interested. I don't wanna see Boston make the Finals. Much rather have any non-Boston eastern team in the Finals (just a personal preference).

I don’t like Boston or LA I just think it’s a more fun matchup and just adds something different to Lebrons legacy If he was able to beat Boston playing for the Lakers.

The problem with your scenario is Boston could win the title and I ain't about that life.

LA vs Boston would be lit as hell tho, imagine if there was no covid and we had a lakers celtics finals

[MyUniBroDavis]

Given they're both a lot better than any of lebron's eastern opponents post pacers... not really.

Do you think the 2014-2018 Cavs lose to either of those team though? The 2018 iteration probably doesn’t make it out of the East but I think the Lebron/Kyrie Cavs do.

16 and 17 cavs surrreee. i've gotten lower on the 16 cavs tho.

The 17 cavs were stupid dominant, the 16 cavs had 16 lebron, who basically is an autowin once ur down 3-1 lmfao

[yoyoboy]

Giannis deserved the RS MVP. We'll see if he can pull a post-2011 LeBron and expand his game and develop some counters to become more resistant to playoff defensive schemes. Honestly his playmaking ability is a glaring flaw looking at that Raptors series and this Heat series, which is almost weird to say considering how many APG he got as a big. But when Giannis gets walled off and double teamed, good teams have been able to also take away the "easy" pass and Giannis just doesn't see the guy on the other side often enough. Or he just doesn't instantly react and make a quick enough pass out of the double to make the defense pay.

I actually don't think it makes much sense or helps him significantly to focus on trying to add an outside jumper because it's most likely not going to be efficient anyways and he still gets inside the paint whenever he wants no matter the defense being played. His issue is what comes next. He needs to refine his footwork and counter-moves in the post so he's not just trying to use sheer physicality or that euro step all the time because it's predictable and elite defenses have been able to limit him. And then he's gotta improve those free throws. They win today's game most likely is Giannis hits just one of those 2 FTs he missed late in the game.

[PaulieWal]

I don’t like Boston or LA I just think it’s a more fun matchup and just adds something different to Lebrons legacy If he was able to beat Boston playing for the Lakers.

The problem with your scenario is Boston could win the title and I ain't about that life.

LA vs Boston would be lit as hell tho, imagine if there was no covid and we had a lakers celtics finals

Lol no I will pass. Not down for Stevens coaching circles around Vogel (look at Spo vs. Bud right now) and then Bill Simmons and his media empire declares Tatum the new GOAT.

[PaulieWal]

Someone take Giannis’s mvp and deliver it to LeBron.

And why should that happen?

Giannis won the MVP over LeBron fair and square. It's not a playoffs MVP award.

[MyUniBroDavis]

The problem with your scenario is Boston could win the title and I ain't about that life.

LA vs Boston would be lit as hell tho, imagine if there was no covid and we had a lakers celtics finals

Lol no I will pass. Not down for Stevens coaching circles around Vogel (look at Spo vs. Bud right now) and then Bill Simmons and his media empire declares Tatum the new GOAT.

Stevens is a good coach but i doubt he'll embarass vogel or anything. Defensively vogels probably the best coach in the nba at adjusting and offensively hes not bad enough that hes just gonna rush in and keep hitting them with things that dont work imo

[thebigbird]

Someone take Giannis’s mvp and deliver it to LeBron.

And why should that happen?

Giannis won the MVP over LeBron fair and square. It's not a playoffs MVP award.

#1 seed in the better conference. Giannis piles up stats against bad eastern conference teams and then fails to elevate his game in the postseason. This is the second straight year it’s happened. The MVP is a narrative award, though, and the voters decided early on that it was going to Giannis.

[PaulieWal]

LA vs Boston would be lit as hell tho, imagine if there was no covid and we had a lakers celtics finals

Lol no I will pass. Not down for Stevens coaching circles around Vogel (look at Spo vs. Bud right now) and then Bill Simmons and his media empire declares Tatum the new GOAT.

Stevens is a good coach but i doubt he'll embarass vogel or anything. Defensively vogels probably the best coach in the nba at adjusting and offensively hes not bad enough that hes just gonna rush in and keep hitting them with things that dont work imo

I think when it comes to in-game adjustments and doing weird, funky stuff that works it's basically some order of Nurse, Stevens, and Spo. I think Stevens would absolutely embarrass Vogel. And I don't buy that he's the best coach adjusting defensively, based on what exactly? Anyway, can we just please not do a Boston Finals. I will be happy to see Raptors, Heat, or even Bucks in the Finals.

[PaulieWal]

Someone take Giannis’s mvp and deliver it to LeBron.

And why should that happen?

Giannis won the MVP over LeBron fair and square. It's not a playoffs MVP award.

#1 seed in the better conference. Giannis piles up stats against bad eastern conference teams and then fails to elevate his game in the postseason. This is the second straight year it’s happened. The MVP is a narrative award, though, and the voters decided early on that it was going to Giannis.

You do know that it is a RS award, not a PS award. How he performs in the PS is irrelevant to being a RS MVP.

This is a weird hill for some of you guys to die on and frankly not a good look. LeBron had a solid case but he was not robbed or anything at all, this isn't a Rose 2011 situation, Just stop it.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Lol no I will pass. Not down for Stevens coaching circles around Vogel (look at Spo vs. Bud right now) and then Bill Simmons and his media empire declares Tatum the new GOAT.

Stevens is a good coach but i doubt he'll embarass vogel or anything. Defensively vogels probably the best coach in the nba at adjusting and offensively hes not bad enough that hes just gonna rush in and keep hitting them with things that dont work imo

I think when it comes to in-game adjustments and doing weird, funky stuff that works it's basically some order of Nurse, Stevens, and Spo. I think Stevens would absolutely embarrass Vogel. And I don't buy that he's the best coach adjusting defensively, based on what exactly? Anyway, can we just please not do a Boston Finals. I will be happy to see Raptors, Heat, or even Bucks in the Finals.

I feel nurse is the only one who does funky stuff, although it works usually

Tbh with vogel it just seems like he knows what hes talking about, i cant say i watch closely enough but he has made pretty great gameplans on defense this year, cant remember but they defended luka a particular way aft half time of one of the games and that really stopped him, and theyre gameplan against portland was good

People only get outcoached when they are like literally inept at adjusting, and iirc bud literally said he doesnt beliece in adjustments or something

A bit worried for offensive adjustments but i think hes smart enough for that not to be too bad.

[MyUniBroDavis]

And why should that happen?

Giannis won the MVP over LeBron fair and square. It's not a playoffs MVP award.

#1 seed in the better conference. Giannis piles up stats against bad eastern conference teams and then fails to elevate his game in the postseason. This is the second straight year it’s happened. The MVP is a narrative award, though, and the voters decided early on that it was going to Giannis.

You do know that it is a RS award, not a PS award. How he performs in the PS is irrelevant to being a RS MVP.

This is a weird hill for some of you guys to die on and frankly not a good look. LeBron had a solid case but he was not robbed or anything at all, this isn't a Rose 2011 situation, Just stop it.

Yeah ngl giannis 100% deserved mvp lol. I dont even see how lebron has a great case personally giannis was a DPOY by a pretty big margib, that was the sole engine of a top 5 offense, on the best RS team in the league. Not to mention Lebron having another superstar is always gonna make his case weaker

[yoyoboy]

I agree that Vogel is one of the best in the league at defensive adjustments. Cranjis Mcbasketball (guy behind The BBall Index) is really high on his ability on that end as well I'm pretty sure. And offensively, it really doesn't matter what he does because LeBron runs the show and he'll be the one reacting and adapting to whatever Stevens would throw at him, which at this point in his career I more than trust in him to do that. Make no mistake though, Boston currently scares me more than any other team in the league. Tatum is looking like a true superstar, Kemba and Brown look good, Stevens is a mastermind, and everyone else is just getting the job done so effectively.

[MisterHibachi]

I agree that Vogel is one of the best in the league at defensive adjustments. Cranjis Mcbasketball (guy behind The BBall Index) is really high on his ability on that end as well I'm pretty sure. And offensively, it really doesn't matter what he does because LeBron runs the show and he'll be the one reacting and adapting to whatever Stevens would throw at him, which at this point in his career I more than trust in him to do that. Make no mistake though, Boston currently scares me more than any other team in the league. Tatum is looking like a true superstar, Kemba and Brown look good, Stevens is a mastermind, and everyone else is just getting the job done so effectively.

Yeah, Tatum seemed unguardable in that Feb game at Staples when he dropped 40. He was casually hitting step back threes in AD's face and anyone else guarding him too.

[MisterHibachi]

Re MVP, I think LeBron is the best player in the league and that should count for something. Plus the Lakers exceeded pretty much all expectations and played in a tougher conference, and were only like 2 losses behind the Bucks prior to the break. But whatever

[JordansBulls]

Someone take Giannis’s mvp and deliver it to LeBron.

That's like saying the NBA should have taken the MVP's Lebron won in 2009 and 2010 and given it to Kobe. Yeah would make no sense.

[JordansBulls]

Re MVP, I think LeBron is the best player in the league and that should count for something. Plus the Lakers exceeded pretty much all expectations and played in a tougher conference, and were only like 2 losses behind the Bucks prior to the break. But whatever

Yeah but his teammate had better stats overall and the advanced stats to, so how does that make Lebron the MVP?

[MisterHibachi]

Re MVP, I think LeBron is the best player in the league and that should count for something. Plus the Lakers exceeded pretty much all expectations and played in a tougher conference, and were only like 2 losses behind the Bucks prior to the break. But whatever

Yeah but his teammate had better stats overall and the advanced stats to, so how does that make Lebron the MVP?

Watch the games.

[Dupp]

The problem with your scenario is Boston could win the title and I ain't about that life.

LA vs Boston would be lit as hell tho, imagine if there was no covid and we had a lakers celtics finals

Lol no I will pass. Not down for Stevens coaching circles around Vogel (look at Spo vs. Bud right now) and then Bill Simmons and his media empire declares Tatum the new GOAT.

Yes but if Lakers are winning that matchup. The finals is the clippers

[MyUniBroDavis]

Lol so can lebron score on dort or is he gonna get clamped up too goddamn