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Post#1481 » by blanko » Thu Sep 3, 2020 3:39 am

eagle54 wrote:What ? No thanks, it's the sixers who need to give lots of picks.
His contract is more toxic than we never known in NY. And yet we are specialists for toxic contracts...
No no i mean we get picks. Sorry for the confusion

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Post#1482 » by blanko » Thu Sep 3, 2020 3:41 am

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blanko wrote:How about taking on tobias harris for say randle a first and 2 seconds?

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I would be open to taking the worst contract in the NBA. But it should cost Philly

swapping philly's 21st pick for our 27th
unprotected 2021 1st round pick
unprotected 2023 pick
and Thybulle
Don't thibk we get thyble
But this years pick swap
Next years 1st
2 seconds
Sounds reasonable

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Post#1483 » by BowlRips » Thu Sep 3, 2020 4:22 am

Give me CP3
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Post#1484 » by Dantares » Thu Sep 3, 2020 4:28 am

BowlRips wrote:Give me CP3


Imagine all the spacing CP3 would create for RJ and all the lobs to Mitch. Both of them could be all stars with CP3 mentoring them. he would help our whole team get better.
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Post#1485 » by bleedblue3303 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 6:19 am

blanko wrote:
bleedblue3303 wrote:
blanko wrote:How about taking on tobias harris for say randle a first and 2 seconds?

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I would be open to taking the worst contract in the NBA. But it should cost Philly

swapping philly's 21st pick for our 27th
unprotected 2021 1st round pick
unprotected 2023 pick
and Thybulle
Don't thibk we get thyble
But this years pick swap
Next years 1st
2 seconds
Sounds reasonable

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Im holding out for 2023

that contract is a disaster.
has to be 2021
2023
and pick swap 21 for 27 this year
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Post#1486 » by spree8 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 6:40 am

Dantares wrote:
BowlRips wrote:Give me CP3


Imagine all the spacing CP3 would create for RJ and all the lobs to Mitch. Both of them could be all stars with CP3 mentoring them. he would help our whole team get better.



Yea I’d prefer trading for him than signing FVV. I think RJ n Mitch would def level up by playing with him. Everyone else def gets a few ratings +points boost too... DSJr n Frank especially.

Just dunno if he’d be happy not really competing for a title in his final years.
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Post#1487 » by blanko » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:23 am

bleedblue3303 wrote:
blanko wrote:
bleedblue3303 wrote:
I would be open to taking the worst contract in the NBA. But it should cost Philly

swapping philly's 21st pick for our 27th
unprotected 2021 1st round pick
unprotected 2023 pick
and Thybulle
Don't thibk we get thyble
But this years pick swap
Next years 1st
2 seconds
Sounds reasonable

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Im holding out for 2023

that contract is a disaster.
has to be 2021
2023
and pick swap 21 for 27 this year
Would you take horford instead? That way they are not stuck with 2 pfs.

I think horford would be a great mentor for mitch and knox(who i view as a stretch 4 and not a wing).

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Post#1488 » by blanko » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:24 am

Dantares wrote:
BowlRips wrote:Give me CP3


Imagine all the spacing CP3 would create for RJ and all the lobs to Mitch. Both of them could be all stars with CP3 mentoring them. he would help our whole team get better.
With the way everyone is loosing money, i dont think it's an unthinkable scenario where ock becomes financially desperate. No matter whar kevin o connor says.

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Post#1489 » by blanko » Thu Sep 3, 2020 8:29 am

spree8 wrote:
Dantares wrote:
BowlRips wrote:Give me CP3


Imagine all the spacing CP3 would create for RJ and all the lobs to Mitch. Both of them could be all stars with CP3 mentoring them. he would help our whole team get better.



Yea I’d prefer trading for him than signing FVV. I think RJ n Mitch would def level up by playing with him. Everyone else def gets a few ratings +points boost too... DSJr n Frank especially.

Just dunno if he’d be happy not really competing for a title in his final years.
How about Conley? Seems like he eas palying better since the restart. Last year of his deal.


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Post#1490 » by RandlesCornrows » Thu Sep 3, 2020 10:25 am

Is it worth trading up with Minnesota for that first pick? The value won’t take much. And their looking to make a trade, since neither of the top 3 picks really fit their roster.

I’d be kind of iffy on it. The only player I can see the Knicks moving up for is LaMelo. And LaMelo is overrated as ****. But if we want a highly ranked player, I’m sure they’ll be a few in the top 6. It may be worth it, if it’s cheap.

Maybe something along the lines of

To MIN:8th, 27th, 21’ Dallas Mavs Pick (Top-10 protected), Kevin Knox, Damyean Dotson

To NYK: 1st OV pick.
——————————
Then Min will have 8th, 17th, 27th, 33rd. Can draft guys around KAT & D’Lo. Kevin Knox can wind up being a quality player for Minnesota with a lot open looks. And Minn could add 3-point shooters like Vassell, then fill in the roster with others.


Lol I did all of this and looked at how brutal Edwards and Ball’s percentages are, oh boy.
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Post#1491 » by LookToShoot » Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:20 am

Knicks need to call the Thunder FO and get Schroder. Signing FVV would be a big mistake.
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Post#1492 » by BowlRips » Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:41 am

blanko wrote:
Dantares wrote:
BowlRips wrote:Give me CP3


Imagine all the spacing CP3 would create for RJ and all the lobs to Mitch. Both of them could be all stars with CP3 mentoring them. he would help our whole team get better.
With the way everyone is loosing money, i dont think it's an unthinkable scenario where ock becomes financially desperate. No matter whar kevin o connor says.

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What did KOC say?
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Post#1493 » by NewYorkPride85 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:42 am

LookToShoot wrote:Knicks need to call the Thunder FO and get Schroder. Signing FVV would be a big mistake.


You think schroder is a better option? Dude is a serious head case. I’m done with head cases to last me a lifetime, no thanks. Besides, I’m not looking to give up the assets that OKC is going to require
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Post#1494 » by LookToShoot » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:10 pm

NewYorkPride85 wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:Knicks need to call the Thunder FO and get Schroder. Signing FVV would be a big mistake.


You think schroder is a better option? Dude is a serious head case. I’m done with head cases to last me a lifetime, no thanks. Besides, I’m not looking to give up the assets that OKC is going to require


He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.
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Post#1495 » by shrink » Thu Sep 3, 2020 12:42 pm

LibertyKnicks00 wrote:Is it worth trading up with Minnesota for that first pick? The value won’t take much. And their looking to make a trade, since neither of the top 3 picks really fit their roster.

I’d be kind of iffy on it. The only player I can see the Knicks moving up for is LaMelo. And LaMelo is overrated as ****. But if we want a highly ranked player, I’m sure they’ll be a few in the top 6. It may be worth it, if it’s cheap.

Maybe something along the lines of

To MIN:8th, 27th, 21’ Dallas Mavs Pick (Top-10 protected), Kevin Knox, Damyean Dotson

To NYK: 1st OV pick.
——————————
Then MIN will have 8th, 17th, 27th, 33rd. Can draft guys around KAT & D’Lo. Kevin Knox can wind up being a quality player for Minnesota with a lot open looks. And Minn could add 3-point shooters like Vassell, then fill in the roster with others.

Lol I did all of this and looked at how brutal Edwards and Ball’s percentages are, oh boy.

MIN has roster crowding issues already, with 18 players for 15 spots, so I don’t think they’d do a 1-for-4 trade.

I’m not sure on value either. Right now, I see tiers between 1-3, 4-6 (as you mention), 7-?, so I’m not sure #8 and pieces is going to do it. In every draft, the #1 pick carries marketing value that sells tickets and excitement to a forelorn franchise. His name and picture leads off stories on draft night, one of the NBA’s most visible nights among casual fans. MIN could use that (Edwards fits fine), but with the major roster changes at the deadline, and the fans not getting to see it because of Covid, they may still keep fans interested if they trade. Plus, if it’s true that there is mutual interest between the Knicks front office and Ball, it helps the brand if the headline after the draft is, “Ball is #1 pick, Makes Dreams Come True.”

Have there been any leaks in the last two weeks, about Knicks interest in Ball? I think he has the highest ceiling, but his floor is lower than Edwards. I’m not sure how to evaluate Wiseman. Or was the Knicks front office interest in LaMelo overstated?
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Post#1496 » by spree8 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:28 pm

blanko wrote:
spree8 wrote:
Dantares wrote:
Imagine all the spacing CP3 would create for RJ and all the lobs to Mitch. Both of them could be all stars with CP3 mentoring them. he would help our whole team get better.



Yea I’d prefer trading for him than signing FVV. I think RJ n Mitch would def level up by playing with him. Everyone else def gets a few ratings +points boost too... DSJr n Frank especially.

Just dunno if he’d be happy not really competing for a title in his final years.
How about Conley? Seems like he eas palying better since the restart. Last year of his deal.


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Wouldn’t mind him, but I doubt he’d wanna be here too at this point in his career.
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Post#1497 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:33 pm

LookToShoot wrote:
NewYorkPride85 wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:Knicks need to call the Thunder FO and get Schroder. Signing FVV would be a big mistake.


You think schroder is a better option? Dude is a serious head case. I’m done with head cases to last me a lifetime, no thanks. Besides, I’m not looking to give up the assets that OKC is going to require


He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.

He's not stable enough for NY. He's one of the biggest idiots in the NBA and certainly couldn't handle it - just like we couldn't handle him ruining our future.
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Post#1498 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:37 pm

LookToShoot wrote:
NewYorkPride85 wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:Knicks need to call the Thunder FO and get Schroder. Signing FVV would be a big mistake.


You think schroder is a better option? Dude is a serious head case. I’m done with head cases to last me a lifetime, no thanks. Besides, I’m not looking to give up the assets that OKC is going to require


He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.

Also: lol at thebnotion that Dennis is a baller, like VanVleet wasn't. FVV is hands down the better player.
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Post#1499 » by LookToShoot » Thu Sep 3, 2020 3:08 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:
NewYorkPride85 wrote:
You think schroder is a better option? Dude is a serious head case. I’m done with head cases to last me a lifetime, no thanks. Besides, I’m not looking to give up the assets that OKC is going to require


He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.

He's not stable enough for NY. He's one of the biggest idiots in the NBA and certainly couldn't handle it - just like we couldn't handle him ruining our future.


Sounds like you’re making it personal. Remember that analytics exists to make mediocre players look special. FVV does not pass the eye test. Don’t be one of those fans who thinks that a roster of below average players can do great things just because they can shoot a three and have a nice personality.
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Post#1500 » by -YogiBiz- » Thu Sep 3, 2020 3:31 pm

LookToShoot wrote:
NewYorkPride85 wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:Knicks need to call the Thunder FO and get Schroder. Signing FVV would be a big mistake.


You think schroder is a better option? Dude is a serious head case. I’m done with head cases to last me a lifetime, no thanks. Besides, I’m not looking to give up the assets that OKC is going to require


He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.


He's not though. That's just absurd.
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