Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[LookToShoot]

You think schroder is a better option? Dude is a serious head case. I’m done with head cases to last me a lifetime, no thanks. Besides, I’m not looking to give up the assets that OKC is going to require

He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.

He's not though. That's just absurd.

He is. FVV is a backup who’s only starting because of the hole left by Kawhi. Dennis is a starter (has been most of his career) who came off the bench playing behind CP3. Dennis has played better in the playoffs than FVV.

[bleedblue3303]

Don't thibk we get thyble
But this years pick swap
Next years 1st
2 seconds
Sounds reasonable

Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk

Im holding out for 2023

that contract is a disaster.
has to be 2021
2023
and pick swap 21 for 27 this year

Would you take horford instead? That way they are not stuck with 2 pfs.

I think horford would be a great mentor for mitch and knox(who i view as a stretch 4 and not a wing).

Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk

I would prefer horford
his contract is shorter.

I would even get rid of this year pick swap
2021 and 2023 unconditional frp and we take Horford

[bleedblue3303]

The more and more I think about it.
I would actually trade RJ to Minnesota for the number 1 pick
I would trade Mitch and Frank to GS for number 2
Take on Horford Contract for 2021 and 2023 unconditional FRP and pick swap this year between 21 and 27

Draft Lameo, Wiseman, OBI,
Next year draft have 3 picks
2023 have 3 picks

I love RJ and Mitch, but I dont think either will be a star. Have to keep trying in draft till we get a star.

[-YogiBiz-]

He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.

He's not though. That's just absurd.

He is. FVV is a backup who’s only starting because of the hole left by Kawhi. Dennis is a starter (has been most of his career) who came off the bench playing behind CP3. Dennis has played better in the playoffs than FVV.

He's not. Schroder was the starter in ATL for one season. He led his team to the #3 overall pick in the draft. He started 14 games for the Thunder last year. Schroeder never starts unless his team needs it. FVV is starting over some pretty good backcourt players in Tor namely, Norman Powell.

Also, Schroder plays no defense, and he's an average at best passer.

Lastly, Schroder averages from his 7 games in the playoffs this year are 17.3 PPG/3.5APG shooting 40.4% from the field and 28.8% from three. FVV averages in his 6 games in the postseason (his team won their series and is still playing FYI) are 19.1PPG/7.6APG shooting 43.3% from the field and 42.1% from 3 Point land. I am not even going to get into defensive analytics.

FVV IS MUCH BETTER THAN SCHRODER.

[DOT]

He's not though. That's just absurd.

He is. FVV is a backup who’s only starting because of the hole left by Kawhi. Dennis is a starter (has been most of his career) who came off the bench playing behind CP3. Dennis has played better in the playoffs than FVV.

He's not. Schroder was the starter in ATL for one season. He led his team to the #3 overall pick in the draft. He started 14 games for the Thunder last year. Schroeder never starts unless his team needs it. FVV is starting over some pretty good backcourt players in Tor namely, Norman Powell.

Also, Schroder plays no defense, and he's an average at best passer.

Lastly, Schroder averages from his 7 games in the playoffs this year are 17.3 PPG/3.5APG shooting 40.4% from the field and 28.8% from three. FVV averages in his 6 games in the postseason (his team won their series and is still playing FYI) are 19.1PPG/7.6APG shooting 43.3% from the field and 42.1% from 3 Point land. I am not even going to get into defensive analytics.

FVV IS MUCH BETTER THAN SCHRODER.

Schroeder starter 2 years, actually

Even then, if you don't count this last year with the Thunder, he's only started 40% of all games he appeared in

So he's been a backup most of his career. If you count this last year, he's started in 35.6% of all his games, compared to 35.5% for VanVleet.

[F N 11]

Knicks having been playing full games from 2020 titled "Knicks lottery picks". Focusing on games where the young knicks play well. Im telling you, we might finally be rebuilding the right way.

[-YogiBiz-]

He is. FVV is a backup who’s only starting because of the hole left by Kawhi. Dennis is a starter (has been most of his career) who came off the bench playing behind CP3. Dennis has played better in the playoffs than FVV.

He's not. Schroder was the starter in ATL for one season. He led his team to the #3 overall pick in the draft. He started 14 games for the Thunder last year. Schroeder never starts unless his team needs it. FVV is starting over some pretty good backcourt players in Tor namely, Norman Powell.

Also, Schroder plays no defense, and he's an average at best passer.

Lastly, Schroder averages from his 7 games in the playoffs this year are 17.3 PPG/3.5APG shooting 40.4% from the field and 28.8% from three. FVV averages in his 6 games in the postseason (his team won their series and is still playing FYI) are 19.1PPG/7.6APG shooting 43.3% from the field and 42.1% from 3 Point land. I am not even going to get into defensive analytics.

FVV IS MUCH BETTER THAN SCHRODER.

Schroeder starter 2 years, actually

Even then, if you don't count this last year with the Thunder, he's only started 40% of all games he appeared in

So he's been a backup most of his career. If you count this last year, he's started in 35.6% of all his games, compared to 35.5% for VanVleet.

Thank you for correcting me! Still, FVV is going to continue to pile up more starts moving forward while Schroder is going to likely be on the bench.

[blanko]

He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.

He's not stable enough for NY. He's one of the biggest idiots in the NBA and certainly couldn't handle it - just like we couldn't handle him ruining our future.

Sounds like you’re making it personal. Remember that analytics exists to make mediocre players look special. FVV does not pass the eye test. Don’t be one of those fans who thinks that a roster of below average players can do great things just because they can shoot a three and have a nice personality.

Da fuq?

Sent from my SM-T865N using Tapatalk

[LookToShoot]

He's not though. That's just absurd.

He is. FVV is a backup who’s only starting because of the hole left by Kawhi. Dennis is a starter (has been most of his career) who came off the bench playing behind CP3. Dennis has played better in the playoffs than FVV.

He's not. Schroder was the starter in ATL for one season. He led his team to the #3 overall pick in the draft. He started 14 games for the Thunder last year. Schroeder never starts unless his team needs it. FVV is starting over some pretty good backcourt players in Tor namely, Norman Powell.

Also, Schroder plays no defense, and he's an average at best passer.

Lastly, Schroder averages from his 7 games in the playoffs this year are 17.3 PPG/3.5APG shooting 40.4% from the field and 28.8% from three. FVV averages in his 6 games in the postseason (his team won their series and is still playing FYI) are 19.1PPG/7.6APG shooting 43.3% from the field and 42.1% from 3 Point land. I am not even going to get into defensive analytics.

FVV IS MUCH BETTER THAN SCHRODER.

Again, FVV plays next to Kyle Lowry. OKC leaned on Schroeder more than Toronto does FVV. But you want to make FVV the starting pg for the Knicks? I will take CP3’s words about Schroeder. He’s the better player.

[-YogiBiz-]

He is. FVV is a backup who’s only starting because of the hole left by Kawhi. Dennis is a starter (has been most of his career) who came off the bench playing behind CP3. Dennis has played better in the playoffs than FVV.

He's not. Schroder was the starter in ATL for one season. He led his team to the #3 overall pick in the draft. He started 14 games for the Thunder last year. Schroeder never starts unless his team needs it. FVV is starting over some pretty good backcourt players in Tor namely, Norman Powell.

Also, Schroder plays no defense, and he's an average at best passer.

Lastly, Schroder averages from his 7 games in the playoffs this year are 17.3 PPG/3.5APG shooting 40.4% from the field and 28.8% from three. FVV averages in his 6 games in the postseason (his team won their series and is still playing FYI) are 19.1PPG/7.6APG shooting 43.3% from the field and 42.1% from 3 Point land. I am not even going to get into defensive analytics.

FVV IS MUCH BETTER THAN SCHRODER.

Again, FVV plays next to Kyle Lowry. OKC leaned on Schroeder more than Toronto does FVV. But you want to make FVV the starting pg for the Knicks? I will take CP3’s words about Schroeder. He’s the better player.

So all of a sudden it's Kyle Lowry > Russell Westbrook/Chris Paul? Okay, you are reaching for crazy straws now. Another thing, FVV has a higher USG% than Lowry in the playoffs. ONE MORE THING, the Raptors have 5 (including FVV) players with an over 20% USG% while the Thunder had 4 (Schroder counts).

Schroder literally played nearly 73% of his minutes without at least two of those players, while FVV played with at least two of those guys close to 58% of the time. Of course, his USG isn't as high as Schroder, Schroder is typically out there playing with garbage.

In 2020 and likely moving forward, Schroder is worse than FVV.

[Nbabrothers]

The more and more I think about it.
I would actually trade RJ to Minnesota for the number 1 pick
I would trade Mitch and Frank to GS for number 2
Take on Horford Contract for 2021 and 2023 unconditional FRP and pick swap this year between 21 and 27

Draft Lameo, Wiseman, OBI,
Next year draft have 3 picks
2023 have 3 picks

I love RJ and Mitch, but I dont think either will be a star. Have to keep trying in draft till we get a star.

Wow! This years draft isn’t that deep and I wouldn’t give up on RJ and Mitchell. I understand the RJ’s not played well his first season and he really hasn’t shown he has a go to move like a great hump shot or drive to the basket and his free throw percentage is terrible but I would give him one more season to prove himself and if anything then try to trade him for a number 1 pick next summer.
Regarding Mitchell Robinson, I would definitely keep him. He had a great rookie season and is better than RJ statistically plus he is what we need in defenders. You only get lucky when a player like him makes your team.

[Dantares]

Schroeder and FVV are pretty close in talent. not even worth arguing over fella's

I do believe FVV would bring more leadership qualities tho

[-YogiBiz-]

Schroeder and FVV are pretty close in talent. not even worth arguing over fella's

I do believe FVV would bring more leadership qualities tho

You know you would be right if you're okay with your PG not playing defense and always hunting for his own shot.

[spree2kawhi]

He’s better than FVV. I’m not going to hype up mediocre players. Dennis is a baller. I don’t think OKC will ask for much, he only has a year left on his deal. They’re looking to trim payroll.

He's not stable enough for NY. He's one of the biggest idiots in the NBA and certainly couldn't handle it - just like we couldn't handle him ruining our future.

Sounds like you’re making it personal. Remember that analytics exists to make mediocre players look special. FVV does not pass the eye test. Don’t be one of those fans who thinks that a roster of below average players can do great things just because they can shoot a three and have a nice personality.

I'm not making it personal at all. You're wrong.

[eagle54]

What ? No thanks, it's the sixers who need to give lots of picks.
His contract is more toxic than we never known in NY. And yet we are specialists for toxic contracts...

No no i mean we get picks. Sorry for the confusion

Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk

ok so the real question is : somes mid first round picks or late first round picks is a good thing for this very bad contract ? For me clearly no.

[spree2kawhi]

I'm not even sure I want FVV over a rookie - I might - but Dennis Schroeder? GTFOH

[NewYorkPride85]

We need to start avoiding this trap. It’s the same thing that happened last year and I’m guilty of falling for it then as I’ve done so many times in the past. We should not be looking at mediocre talent or talent with baggage. We need better talent...period, but we are a young team and in no position to take on anyone with bagge. We simply don’t have the veteran leadership to handle that. It’s also the first year for our FO and coaching staff so I doubt they take that risk.

[NewYorkPride85]

What ? No thanks, it's the sixers who need to give lots of picks.
His contract is more toxic than we never known in NY. And yet we are specialists for toxic contracts...

No no i mean we get picks. Sorry for the confusion

Sent from my SM-N960N using Tapatalk

ok so the real question is : somes mid first round picks or late first round picks is a good thing for this very bad contract ? For me clearly no.

If the pick we get back is for next years draft with no protection, then yes. 2021 draft is ridiculous and that not even including all the potential talents that are still deciding whether or not to put their names in for 2021 draft. The top 15 in next years draft is head over heels better than anyone in this upcoming draft. I wouldn’t mind Tobias if we got a 2021 and 2023 unprotected picks. That puts us at 3 FRP for 2023 that we can include in a package for a disgruntled star. Also, the fact that he is 28 also doesn’t hurt. I wouldn’t touch Alfords contract at all. They guy is 34 now and his contract runs one year less that Harris.

[LookToShoot]

We need to start avoiding this trap. It’s the same thing that happened last year and I’m guilty of falling for it then as I’ve done so many times in the past. We should not be looking at mediocre talent or talent with baggage. We need better talent...period, but we are a young team and in no position to take on anyone with bagge. We simply don’t have the veteran leadership to handle that. It’s also the first year for our FO and coaching staff so I doubt they take that risk.

How are you defining “baggage”? LeBron is high maintenance everywhere he goes. It comes with the territory with playing in the NBA. It’s the coach’s and FO’s job to manage egos.

Anyone on the Knicks roster can go, I couldn’t care less. The Thibs hire will attract star talent, leave player development stuff to college. Either a guy can ball or he can’t.

[moocow007]

Give me CP3

Imagine all the spacing CP3 would create for RJ and all the lobs to Mitch. Both of them could be all stars with CP3 mentoring them. he would help our whole team get better.

Yea I’d prefer trading for him than signing FVV. I think RJ n Mitch would def level up by playing with him. Everyone else def gets a few ratings +points boost too... DSJr n Frank especially.

Just dunno if he’d be happy not really competing for a title in his final years.

Same.