2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

[mplsfonz23]

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Feel like we could be in for a draft night surprise if we keep the pick.....

The surprise may be the wolves getting wiseman but not at number 1.

How? Wiseman is going top 3. What would be incentive for GS or Charlotte to move up 1-2 spots? What would you want them to give up? And what if they do, and then take Wiseman #1?
Who knows what Rossa is going to do draft night, but I have more faith in him than any other GM.

[Jedzz]

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Feel like we could be in for a draft night surprise if we keep the pick.....

The surprise may be the wolves getting wiseman but not at number 1.

How? Wiseman is going top 3. What would be incentive for GS or Charlotte to move up 1-2 spots? What would you want them to give up? And what if they do, and then take Wiseman #1?
Who knows what Rossa is going to do draft night, but I have more faith in him than any other GM.

Maybe they just find the best Wing that already can be trusted to shoot and defend for this team. Therefore filling a giant massive hole where we need 3 Wings every rotation to count on. If that has them passing on the hyped three names I don't care, as long as they choose a good player. The draft "value" guys on other teams can go kick cans down the street with their project players and Wolves can field a team with DLo, Beasley, (Usable Draft pick), and Towns and start winning more games and I would be good with that.

[minimus]

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Again, someone talks about Patrick Williams...

[KGdaBom]

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Again, someone talks about Patrick Williams...

Yeah I'm sure it's Thibs fault that trade didn't happen.

[KGdaBom]

Klomp I am coming around on Avdija as a combo Forward. He has better size than I thought. No disappointment from me if we pick him, but it would be nice if we got him in a trade down with a first round pick for next year in the deal.

[KGdaBom]

Edwards takes the lead in the poll. One more person voting for Edwards than Wiseman. They could be right. Edwards is impressive when he's on. I just hope if we draft him that he's on most of the time. JR Rider was amazing when he was on. I loved watching Rider play. I use to stay up late to watch his college games at UNLV on ESPN.

[KGdaBom]

If we really like Avdija it seems to me that we should trade back to 4 if the Bulls want #1. We pick up a nice asset from the Bulls and if Avdija goes top three we can take one of the supposed top 3 or trade back again for more assets. If the top 3 go according to form we take Avdija at 4. I think it's win/win.

[Domejandro]

Bam was never on the table.

[KGdaBom]

Bam was never on the table.

Absolutely and Minimus attacks on Thibs are so over the top they make him lose all credibility.
Minimus believe it or not I agree that Thibs was far from perfect. Stop making up sheet about him.

[TheProdigy]

Bam was never on the table.

Absolutely and Minimus attacks on Thibs are so over the top they make him lose all credibility.
Minimus believe it or not I agree that Thibs was far from perfect. Stop making up sheet about him.

Thibs was so bad as a GM that it's not necessary to make things up about him. Imagine having $33 million in cap space, and using it all on Taj Gibson and Jeff Teague!

[KGdaBom]

Bam was never on the table.

Absolutely and Minimus attacks on Thibs are so over the top they make him lose all credibility.
Minimus believe it or not I agree that Thibs was far from perfect. Stop making up sheet about him.

Thibs was so bad as a GM that it's not necessary to make things up about him. Imagine having $33 million in cap space, and using it all on Taj Gibson and Jeff Teague!

Not great, but that's what players like them cost at the time. Teague was a disappointment. Taj played amazing. So why does Minimus feel the need to make sheet up since it's so easy to diss him without doing that?

There are to me many indications that Thibs didn't want to pay Wiggins the Max and wanted to trade him instead of LaVine in the Butler deal. I think he did some good moves as GM, but was kind of handcuffed in that job by Taylor meddling. I can't prove this, but I believe it. Please don't bother coming back at me and blaming those on Thibs. I'm pretty sure they're on Taylor.

[Merc_Porto]

Looking at draft of 2017

19 - John Collins
22 - Jarrett Allen
23 - OG Anunoby
27 - Kyle Kuzma
45 - Dillon Brooks

Minnesota:
16 - Justin Patton

Oh its easy to talk right now, well... Classic Timberwolves excuse

[Merc_Porto]

Thibs was so bad as a GM that it's not necessary to make things up about him. Imagine having $33 million in cap space, and using it all on Taj Gibson and Jeff Teague!

To get even worse, Imagine having Ricky Rubio locked for 2 more years, 14M per year and signing Teague at 19M per season.



Thibs ruined a team and a project that was considered the most promisse in 2016.

[KGdaBom]

Looking at draft of 2017

19 - John Collins
22 - Jarrett Allen
23 - OG Anunoby
27 - Kyle Kuzma
45 - Dillon Brooks

Minnesota:
16 - Justin Patton

Oh its easy to talk right now, well... Classic Timberwolves excuse

You can go back to any draft and find players that went later that were better than players that went earlier. It is easy to talk after the fact. Some wanted OG at the time. Those people get props. Looking for stuff now is worthless. Patton may have been very good had he stayed healthy. We will never know.

[Merc_Porto]

Looking at draft of 2017

19 - John Collins
22 - Jarrett Allen
23 - OG Anunoby
27 - Kyle Kuzma
45 - Dillon Brooks

Minnesota:
16 - Justin Patton

Oh its easy to talk right now, well... Classic Timberwolves excuse

You can go back to any draft and find players that went later that were better than players that went earlier. It is easy to talk after the fact. Some wanted OG at the time. Those people get props. Looking for stuff now is worthless. Patton may have been very good had he stayed healthy. We will never know.

Please, like i said, thats so Timberolves thing to say every single year. In 2016, was Dunn over Murray.
I mean, i also wanted Dunn over Murray to be honest but i dont get millions of dollars to scout and decide.
If i was, ok, i would accept the critics, is part of the job.

[KGdaBom]

Looking at draft of 2017

19 - John Collins
22 - Jarrett Allen
23 - OG Anunoby
27 - Kyle Kuzma
45 - Dillon Brooks

Minnesota:
16 - Justin Patton

Oh its easy to talk right now, well... Classic Timberwolves excuse

You can go back to any draft and find players that went later that were better than players that went earlier. It is easy to talk after the fact. Some wanted OG at the time. Those people get props. Looking for stuff now is worthless. Patton may have been very good had he stayed healthy. We will never know.

Please, like i said, thats so Timberolves thing to say every single year. In 2016, was Dunn over Murray.
I mean, i also wanted Dunn over Murray to be honest but i dont get millions of dollars to scout and decide.
If i was, ok, i would accept the critics, is part of the job.

Because it's crap to say who the better picks would be with Hindsight. 9 out of 10 picks made will be the wrong pick with hindsight. It's worthless to dump on a GM using that. Almost every GM in the NBA will look like an idiot when hindsight is applied. Even the ones who got some picks right will have way more that they got wrong.

By the way I wanted Murray over Dunn. I still don't feel justified in dumping on Thibs just because I got that one right. The vast majority of the experts thought Dunn was the better pick.

[Jedzz]

Bam was never on the table.

Absolutely and Minimus attacks on Thibs are so over the top they make him lose all credibility.
Minimus believe it or not I agree that Thibs was far from perfect. Stop making up sheet about him.

Thibs was so bad as a GM that it's not necessary to make things up about him. Imagine having $33 million in cap space, and using it all on Taj Gibson and Jeff Teague!

They weren't long term deals. Imagine never getting into the playoffs that year and Towns still not having a clue what that's like. Imagine the media still bringing up an over 15 year playoff drought every chance they can get. Imagine all the players's minds that join the team that know they just joined a team gunning for two decades without a playoff appearance. Imagine that lack of respect for their own team and what that would mean on the court and to their efforts.

Taj Gibson was everybit responsible for that playoff entrance as anyone on that team. When Butler went out for many games with the knee soreness, Taj carried the team. I have no doubt really that Rubio could have led from PG had they kept him. But his trade brought another 1st back if I recall. Everyone finds it too easy to focus on the negatives that propels the reasoning for what's next.

[Rookie-Mistake]

This.

OG triggered me to analyse..

What a mess we made of this nice draft.. and at the time I though we fleeced em..

I think our player development/talent evaluation has been poo pop for a while. Rosas pick of Culver doesn't inspire any confidence of talent ID.

Looking at draft of 2017

19 - John Collins
22 - Jarrett Allen
23 - OG Anunoby
27 - Kyle Kuzma
45 - Dillon Brooks

Minnesota:
16 - Justin Patton

Oh its easy to talk right now, well... Classic Timberwolves excuse

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[minimus]

This.

OG triggered me to analyse..

What a mess we made of this nice draft.. and at the time I though we fleeced em..

I think our player development/talent evaluation has been poo pop for a while. Rosas pick of Culver doesn't inspire any confidence of talent ID.

Looking at draft of 2017

19 - John Collins
22 - Jarrett Allen
23 - OG Anunoby
27 - Kyle Kuzma
45 - Dillon Brooks

Minnesota:
16 - Justin Patton

Oh its easy to talk right now, well... Classic Timberwolves excuse

Again. Patton had high potential. I was ok with this pick. However, it was a lack of whole scouting, development process, lack of chemistry, bad coaching, questionable rotations which failed for us.

Let's imagine that we drafted Anunoby. There was a chance that we would have never been developed in MIN as he did in TOR.

[minimus]

Bam was never on the table.

Absolutely and Minimus attacks on Thibs are so over the top they make him lose all credibility.
Minimus believe it or not I agree that Thibs was far from perfect. Stop making up sheet about him.

Recently in an interview with the Athletic, Jimmy Butler made a note that Adebayo was in a potential trade to the Timberwolves, had they decided to trade him straight to Miami rather than Philadelphia.

https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2020/09/02/minnesota-timberwolves-jimmy-butler-says-adebayo-possible-wolves-trade/

"There’s been a couple of different incarnations of this deal. The first one, the Heat didn’t want to take back Gorgui Dieng. Then, the next incarnation of the deal was ‘OK forget it, let’s just do it straight up, just for Jimmy on your end.’ They finally relented on Josh Richardson, they were giving them Josh Richardson, then Dion Waiters was going to be the cap filler, and then a protected first-round pick. The medicals were exchanged, which generally in the NBA means this is a done deal. And then, Thibs called back and wanted more picks. And Pat Riley literally—I was told—called him a motherbleeper and hung up the phone."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2800408-report-pat-riley-called-tom-thibodeau-motherf-ker-in-jimmy-butler-trade-talk