Trade Talk (Part Four)

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1. Not counting added assets in say a theoretical deal with Knicks...would you rather roll with Barrett or Edwards...in 3 yrs...who's the better pro? I lean Edwards but wonder what the consensus is by the masses?

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

Good work old school — I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

[KGdaBom]

1. Not counting added assets in say a theoretical deal with Knicks...would you rather roll with Barrett or Edwards...in 3 yrs...who's the better pro? I lean Edwards but wonder what the consensus is by the masses?

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

#2 and #8 for 1 and 17. Sign me up.
I find the #2 pick in the draft superior to the #1 pick if it includes Ball being the player taken at #1.

[KGdaBom]

3. Take our new TE & cash it in asap w/ Phx....TE, Nowell, & 8 for Oubre, Payne, & 10.

Oubre has 1 yr left in the contract. Right now he is injured.

Does Oubre become an UFA at the end of the contract or an RFA? 2 spot trade down in the draft to get him. Why not.

[NebWolvesFan]

3. Take our new TE & cash it in asap w/ Phx....TE, Nowell, & 8 for Oubre, Payne, & 10.

Oubre has 1 yr left in the contract. Right now he is injured.

Does Oubre become an UFA at the end of the contract or an RFA? 2 spot trade down in the draft to get him. Why not.

An UFA. He was a RFA when he signed his two-year deal.

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#2 and #8 for 1 and 17. Sign me up.

It’s also nice for MIN that it reduces roster size by two, and disposes of Evans’ final year.

A Johnson to GSW for their TPE makes too much sense not to happen. We benefit because Johnson is not worth his contract, and GSW benefits because they can step up salaries by 125% in a trade. A deal like this, where they get Mitchell, has the added benefit that it dispels any chance that the NBA could say they were circumventing the CBA if they immediately dealt JJ.

Btw, I couldn’t get the deal to quite work in the Trade Machine. It might require sending Spellman to one team, and Evans to another. I like Spellman on either team, and Evans on neither, but this is a minor concern. Could Looney be in our rotation? Does Looney work for GS, or do they prefer using one of their $2 mil deals instead of a $4 (where we’d get stuck with Evans)?

[KGdaBom]

Oubre has 1 yr left in the contract. Right now he is injured.

Does Oubre become an UFA at the end of the contract or an RFA? 2 spot trade down in the draft to get him. Why not.

An UFA. He was a RFA when he signed his two-year deal.

One year of him is worth the 2 spot trade down and it gives us an edge in signing him when he becomes a UFA.

[KGdaBom]

#2 and #8 for 1 and 17. Sign me up.

It’s also nice for MIN that it reduces roster size by two, and disposes of Evans’ final year.

A Johnson to GSW for their TPE makes too much sense not to happen. We benefit because Johnson is not worth his contract, and GSW benefits because they can step up salaries by 125% in a trade. A deal like this, where they get Mitchell, has the added benefit that it dispels any chance that the NBA could say they were circumventing the CBA if they immediately dealt JJ.

I edited my post to include that #2 pick is more valuable than the #1 pick if we know that Ball is going #1 . We pay less and it takes any possibility of Ball joining our team off the table.

[Baseline81]

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

I would argue the Knicks are overpaying for simply receiving the first overall pick. From their point of view, adding the Dallas future first is too much.

[TaylorTag]

How much is our #17 pick worth? I know Boston wants to move up with their two late FRPs... I might consider doing #17 for #26 and #30 (that's where the mocks say their picks are)... I don't know much about late-first round draft capital and these picks values.. I would assume this is close.. I'd even be willing to throw in Omari Spellman if we could get this done pre-draft. Here's why I would want to..

If Atlanta says they would be willing to trade Cam Reddish and #6 for #1 and another FRP (plus filler, like Layman and Evans), I think giving up #17 is too big of a price, but maybe #1 and #26 would be more palatable. This would be difficult to pull off because we would need to execute the Celtics trade prior to the Hawks trade, which I am not sure how willing Boston would be to do that without seeing who is/will be available at #17..

But if we were able to do it, it would allow us to get a solid wing prospect, draft a big at #6 (hopefully Okongwu) then at pick #30 and #33 you can go best player available (Daniel Oturu and Tre Jones, for example).

PG: Russel, McLaughlin, Jones
SG: Beasely, Okogie, Nowell
SF: Reddish, Culver, Martin
PF: Okongwu, Hernangomez, Vanderbilt
C: Towns, Reid, Oturu

[Wolveswin]

1. Not counting added assets in say a theoretical deal with Knicks...would you rather roll with Barrett or Edwards...in 3 yrs...who's the better pro? I lean Edwards but wonder what the consensus is by the masses?

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

I like this deal. I wonder who Wolves would prefer at #2? Now knowing that #8 a group of 2nd’ish tier players would be available — most likely a wing.

Edit: I also wonder if Wolves would rather give Warriors #8 (and maybe #17 too) to get their 2021 1st back (as an option to trade).

[old school 34]

1. Not counting added assets in say a theoretical deal with Knicks...would you rather roll with Barrett or Edwards...in 3 yrs...who's the better pro? I lean Edwards but wonder what the consensus is by the masses?

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

I like this deal. I wonder who Wolves would prefer at #2? Now knowing that #8 a group of 2nd’ish tier players would be available — most likely a wing.

Edit: I also wonder if Wolves would rather give Warriors #8 (and maybe #17 too) to get their 2021 1st back (as an option to trade).

Wolves may prefer Dal future pick...maybe? But that pick definitely makes more sense for what I believe GSW is doing...so that's why I proposed it as is?

At 8...maybe OO is still there...depends on the mock you look @? I think Edwards eventually becomes the pick @ 2 & I don't think OO makes it to 8...that's why I'd gamble on the Oubre trade for the TE and drop to 10 & target Patrick Williams. So I come out with 3 super athletic wings to join the rotation in Edwards, Oubre, & Williams...all still need development to hit ceilings but would feel pretty good about that draft?

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[KGdaBom]

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

I like this deal. I wonder who Wolves would prefer at #2? Now knowing that #8 a group of 2nd’ish tier players would be available — most likely a wing.

Edit: I also wonder if Wolves would rather give Warriors #8 (and maybe #17 too) to get their 2021 1st back (as an option to trade).

Wolves may prefer Dal future pick...maybe? But that pick definitely makes more sense for what I believe GSW is doing...so that's why I proposed it as is?

At 8...maybe OO is still there...depends on the mock you look @? I think Edwards eventually becomes the pick @ 2 & I don't think OO makes it to 8...that's why I'd gamble on the Oubre trade for the TE and drop to 10 & target Patrick Williams. So I come out with 3 super athletic wings to join the rotation in Edwards, Oubre, & Williams...all still need development to hit ceilings but would feel pretty good about that draft?

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I strongly believe Okongwu won't be available at 8 and I have my doubts he's available at 6. Maybe we want Toppin more because of 3 point shooting.

[Neeva]

No way I take barrett over Edwards. Edwards goes east he will be an all star in 2-3 years Barrett may get benched over Okoro.

[Neeva]

1. Not counting added assets in say a theoretical deal with Knicks...would you rather roll with Barrett or Edwards...in 3 yrs...who's the better pro? I lean Edwards but wonder what the consensus is by the masses?

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

Knicks fans won’t like this ( since they think Mitchell is some future all star or something) Maybe if an Okogie for DSJ swap was included but then the only way I would do this was if Avdija or Hayes were available at 8.

[Jedzz]

1. Not counting added assets in say a theoretical deal with Knicks...would you rather roll with Barrett or Edwards...in 3 yrs...who's the better pro? I lean Edwards but wonder what the consensus is by the masses?

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

Knicks fans won’t like this ( since they think Mitchell is some future all star or something) Maybe if an Okogie for DSJ swap was included but then the only way I would do this was if Avdija or Hayes were available at 8.

Mitchell is very good and honestly we shouldn't be helping the Warriros atain him. It's a terrible deal for IKnicks. Might as well just trade Towns to Warriors. Because this team will never have a chance during his career if we keep feeding them.

[Neeva]

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

Knicks fans won’t like this ( since they think Mitchell is some future all star or something) Maybe if an Okogie for DSJ swap was included but then the only way I would do this was if Avdija or Hayes were available at 8.

Mitchell is very good and honestly we shouldn't be helping the Warriros atain him. It's a terrible deal for IKnicks. Might as well just trade Towns to Warriors. Because this team will never have a chance during his career if we keep feeding them.

Wolves aren’t feeding them, they could do a 2 for Mitchell trade on their own if they wanted.

I think Mitchell is overated and thompson/Curry will be practically done when Towns is in his prime. This past seasons tank job by the warriors has given them an extended three (maybe four) year window for them to win another title.

[shrink]

1. Not counting added assets in say a theoretical deal with Knicks...would you rather roll with Barrett or Edwards...in 3 yrs...who's the better pro? I lean Edwards but wonder what the consensus is by the masses?

I think it’s close. Barrett hasn’t been impressive, but almost all rookies are bad. I look for flashes, and Barrett has them. Knicks fans say that Barrett would go #1 in this draft. I don’t know about that, but even if it was true, it does not mean he has more value now. Edwards (or whoever is drafted first), carries a lot of marketing value, plus he has an additional year of control on rookie scale.

I like most deals that get us the #2 pick, because right now, I don’t think we’re attached to any one player. I think any of the top 3 have star potential. My preference at the moment is Edwards, so if we could get value trading the #1 and #2 to teams that prefer LaMelo and Wiseman, I’m happy trading down to #3. In fact, if we get good trade value, I’m happy trading down either farther. I like your Knicks trade. I always thought asking for #8 and an unprotected 2021 NYK 1st was a little too much.

If I have it right (and to bring it to this new page!) it looks like:

MIN GIVES: #1, #17, Johnson, Spellman, Evans
MIN GETS: #2, #8, Looney, (Johnson TPE)

GSW GIVES: #2, Looney, (Iguodala TPE)
GSW GETS: Mitchell, #17, DAL future 1st, Johnson

NYK GIVES: Mitchell, #8, DAL future 1st
NYK GETS: #1 (LaMelo Ball), Spellman, Evans

I like it. Good deal for MIN, Mitchell works well in GSW and they get Johnson for their upcoming step up trade, and while a little spendy for NYK, they are getting a guy that has the upside to be their #1 star (#8, Mitchell, DAL pick won’t), and they make a marketing splash.

Knicks fans won’t like this ( since they think Mitchell is some future all star or something) Maybe if an Okogie for DSJ swap was included but then the only way I would do this was if Avdija or Hayes were available at 8.

I feel like if Knick fans take Mitchell and RJ off the board, the only way to come up with the trade value for the #1 is with an unprotected (or lightly protected) 2021 NYK pick. Heck, if I recall, over at The Athletic suggested all three .. #8, Mitchell, and an unprotected pick. I think that’s too much. But you’re right - Knicks posters here like Mitchell.

I will mention this too, and I mean no disrespect to Knicks fans or anyone else by saying this. Many posters here blur the line between what they would do, and what their team would do. The initial word we heard a few weeks ago was that their FRONT OFFICE loved Ball, and there was mutual interest there. Now, you can never know what’s true or not with these rumors, and I’ve asked on the Knicks board for more information, and I only see them posting about what “they” would do. Generally posters don’t value the marketing value or state of the franchise as much as random internet posters with no stake in the game.

As a dispassionate observer, I think the Knicks front office would consider #8 and Mitchell and a future DAL 1st, if they got a shot at landing the first pick in this draft.

[shrink]

Knicks fans won’t like this ( since they think Mitchell is some future all star or something) Maybe if an Okogie for DSJ swap was included but then the only way I would do this was if Avdija or Hayes were available at 8.

Mitchell is very good and honestly we shouldn't be helping the Warriros atain him. It's a terrible deal for IKnicks. Might as well just trade Towns to Warriors. Because this team will never have a chance during his career if we keep feeding them.

Wolves aren’t feeding them, they could do a 2 for Mitchell trade on their own if they wanted.

Right. The reason they’d want to do the deal now is to guarantee we don’t take Ball at #1 (to keep or trade), and maybe to lock him up in case he really shines in his workouts leading up to the draft. If they wait until draft night, they may lose him. If we wait until draft night, and pick someone other than Ball (to keep or trade), we are suddenly expendable and wasted getting trade value for the leverage of picking first.

[Streakers33]

Mitchell is very good and honestly we shouldn't be helping the Warriros atain him. It's a terrible deal for IKnicks. Might as well just trade Towns to Warriors. Because this team will never have a chance during his career if we keep feeding them.

Wolves aren’t feeding them, they could do a 2 for Mitchell trade on their own if they wanted.

Right. The reason they’d want to do the deal now is to guarantee we don’t take Ball at #1 (to keep or trade), and maybe to lock him up in case he really shines in his workouts leading up to the draft. If they wait until draft night, they may lose him. If we wait until draft night, and pick someone other than Ball (to keep or trade), we are suddenly expendable and wasted getting trade value for the leverage of picking first.

But what is stopping the Knicks from just tossing clippers and mavs picks at us and keeping Mitchell. Im thinking with all those future firsts, they can sell to their fan base that they have a good core to add to.

Would you turn down:
2020 CLIP FRP
2021 CLIP FRP
2021 DALLAS FRP
2023 DALLAS FRP
2022 NYC FRP


This is a survey. Not an idea..

[Jedzz]

Knicks fans won’t like this ( since they think Mitchell is some future all star or something) Maybe if an Okogie for DSJ swap was included but then the only way I would do this was if Avdija or Hayes were available at 8.

Mitchell is very good and honestly we shouldn't be helping the Warriros atain him. It's a terrible deal for IKnicks. Might as well just trade Towns to Warriors. Because this team will never have a chance during his career if we keep feeding them.

Wolves aren’t feeding them, they could do a 2 for Mitchell trade on their own if they wanted.

I think Mitchell is overated and thompson/Curry will be practically done when Towns is in his prime. This past seasons tank job by the warriors has given them an extended three (maybe four) year window for them to win another title.

Our window with Towns is the next 3-4 years. Don't kid yourself about any longer. Nothing is a given. People that want to forever exist in a laid back developing team mode until some fictitious year in the future where you see an opening are just kidding yourselves. These other teams aren't going to leave a window open for you.

We just had OKC blowing themselves up to inhale as many picks as they could and everyone saw rebuild mode. Yet they were playing competitive ball in the playoffs already. Slow row your boat developing over three years is basically gone. Compete or get out of the league.