WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (4) Houston Rockets, Part 1 | Series Tied 1-1

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Post#1061 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:57 am

On a scale of 1 to exposed, how exposed were the Lakers today?
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Post#1062 » by Mk0 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:57 am

Knicks Byke wrote:Playoff Rondo ruined their chemistry :lol:

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Post#1063 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:57 am

LeBron on court -15
LeBron off court +0

= LeBron's teammates fault
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Post#1064 » by oldshoolballer » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:59 am

The Lakers pulled this with the Blazers too what's up with game 1.
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Post#1065 » by SFour » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:59 am

Alkaholic wrote:For those of you who say this happened against the Blazers.
Well this ain't the Blazers lol you can't just give games away specially against this team


also the Blazers stole game 1 at the last moment...the Rockets were dominating for an extended period of time.
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Post#1066 » by California Gold » Sat Sep 5, 2020 3:59 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:LeBron on court -15
LeBron off court +0

= LeBron's teammates fault


Are you surprised? That's the typical routine of people who make excuses for that guy.
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Post#1067 » by ninjamilk23 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:00 am

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All four guys you mentioned plus Caruso are all shooting around 35% FG for the playoffs.


That's not good.


That bad? Holy crap didn't think it would be that bad lol.


Yeah. KCP leading the charge with a whooping 38% FG before the game.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (4) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#1068 » by kz1m9w » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:00 am

Alkaholic wrote:For those of you who say this happened against the Blazers.
Well this ain't the Blazers lol you can't just give games away specially against this team


I agree. Having said that, it is not out of the question that the Lakers reel off the next 4 to win the series.

But I do think the Rockets can be scary. Anytime a team is doing something so unconventional - and the rest of the league hasn't yet fully adjusted to it (obvious to me) - it feels like it is at least potentially a legitimate threat...mainly because of the unknown.

I know many coming in at least thought it is in interesting match-up related to the "approach". I still think it is, but we'll see.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (4) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#1069 » by California Gold » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:01 am

kz1m9w wrote:
Alkaholic wrote:For those of you who say this happened against the Blazers.
Well this ain't the Blazers lol you can't just give games away specially against this team


I agree. Having said that, it is not out of the question that the Lakers reel off the next 4 to win the series.

But I do think the Rockets can be scary. Anytime a team is doing something so unconventional - and the rest of the league hasn't yet fully adjusted to it (obvious to me) - it feels like it is at least potentially a legitimate threat...mainly because of the unknown.

I know many coming in at least thought it is in interesting match-up related to the "approach". I still think it is, but we'll see.


It's not really that the Lakers haven't adjusted to it. They don't match up well against the Rockets line up at all. I don't care what adjustments they make.

If the Rockets are making their 3's and the Lakers cant match their 3 pt output the Lakers aren't winning this series. No if's and's or but's about it.
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Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (4) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

Post#1070 » by Osirus89 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:02 am

First people said that Miami would get destroyed by the Bucks and then people said the same about the Rockets.
I get people who are homers being blinded but anyone objective should have known the Lakers are going to have serious issues this series.

Lakers have NOONE to guard James Harden.
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Lu Dort is on the short list of people that can guard him without help. Its a short list. If you cant guard him solo, then you have to send help all game which just gets you lit up from 3 if the other guys can knock down shots.

OKC had very good guard play. Lakers have garbage guard play and don't have good shooters. Sure they can get hot, but so can Houston and Houston shoots on greater volume.

Houston has the better third option in Eric Gordon. Houston also has played ELITE defense which has always been the biggest question mark for the team. They have been playing better defense than the Lakers and have more reliable shooters. If Lakers win this series, it will be because Houston gets destroyed on the boards AND goes absolutely arctic from the 3pt line.
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Post#1071 » by red96 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:02 am

K_chile22 wrote:Dwight howard: 11 minutes 1 point, 4 rebounds (1 offensive) 2 fouls. HES TOO BIG

Nd don't forget he won't be switched on and isolated.
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Post#1072 » by Nacho Bidness » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:03 am

    Raps in 4 wrote:On a scale of 1 to exposed, how exposed were the Lakers today?


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    Post#1073 » by kz1m9w » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:04 am

    Lucky Clover wrote:
    kz1m9w wrote:
    Alkaholic wrote:For those of you who say this happened against the Blazers.
    Well this ain't the Blazers lol you can't just give games away specially against this team


    I agree. Having said that, it is not out of the question that the Lakers reel off the next 4 to win the series.

    But I do think the Rockets can be scary. Anytime a team is doing something so unconventional - and the rest of the league hasn't yet fully adjusted to it (obvious to me) - it feels like it is at least potentially a legitimate threat...mainly because of the unknown.

    I know many coming in at least thought it is in interesting match-up related to the "approach". I still think it is, but we'll see.


    It's not really that the Lakers haven't adjusted to it. They don't match up well against the Rockets line up at all. I don't care what adjustments they make.

    If the Rockets are making their 3's and the Lakers cant match their 3 pt output the Lakers aren't winning this series. No if's and's or but's about it.


    By "adjusted" I don't mean in-game or in-series adjustments. I mean wholesale philosophical adjustment. Thinking along the lines of when the run-and-shoot arrived in football and for a period of team, was unstoppable. It was a match-up nightmare for almost everyone until teams "adjusted" by having a different OVERALL approach to facing it. Including a different mindset for the personnel you need to field on the team to combat it.
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    Post#1074 » by Ben-N1ce » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:05 am

    I can't imagine the Lakers can out fraud the Bucks but I wouldn't mind.
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    Post#1075 » by raptor jesus » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:05 am

    I think people are looking at this series the wrong way when they boil it down to small ball vs tall ball. IMO it's skill ball vs less skill ball. The Rockets can roll out entire lineups that can shoot/pass/dribble and defend. The Lakers can't. Sure, they're bigger, but that advantage is negated by a lack of skill, and the strength of the Rocket defenders.
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    Post#1076 » by infinite11285 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:06 am

    Mulhollanddrive wrote:LeBron on court -15
    LeBron off court +0

    = LeBron's teammates fault


    So bench LeBron and the Lakers win.

    Sounds legit.
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    Post#1077 » by California Gold » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:07 am

    kz1m9w wrote:
    Lucky Clover wrote:
    kz1m9w wrote:
    I agree. Having said that, it is not out of the question that the Lakers reel off the next 4 to win the series.

    But I do think the Rockets can be scary. Anytime a team is doing something so unconventional - and the rest of the league hasn't yet fully adjusted to it (obvious to me) - it feels like it is at least potentially a legitimate threat...mainly because of the unknown.

    I know many coming in at least thought it is in interesting match-up related to the "approach". I still think it is, but we'll see.


    It's not really that the Lakers haven't adjusted to it. They don't match up well against the Rockets line up at all. I don't care what adjustments they make.

    If the Rockets are making their 3's and the Lakers cant match their 3 pt output the Lakers aren't winning this series. No if's and's or but's about it.


    By "adjusted" I don't mean in-game or in-series adjustments. I mean wholesale philosophical adjustment. Thinking along the lines of when the run-and-shoot arrived in football and for a period of team, was unstoppable. It was a match-up nightmare for almost everyone until teams "adjusted" by having a different OVERALL approach to facing it.


    That may be true for the league in general, but I don't think that's the case for this series. The Rockets are simply a bad match up and the true thing keeping them from really winning this series is that they can go cold from 3 pt any time. They live and die by the 3. The Lakers would either really need to clamp down or just hope the Rockets miss their open looks similar to the OKC series in game 4.
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    Post#1079 » by NyKnicks1714 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:08 am

    Nacho Bidness wrote:
      Raps in 4 wrote:On a scale of 1 to exposed, how exposed were the Lakers today?


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      Re: WCSF: (1) Los Angeles Lakers vs (4) Houston Rockets, Part 1 

      Post#1080 » by kz1m9w » Sat Sep 5, 2020 4:10 am

      Lucky Clover wrote:
      kz1m9w wrote:
      Lucky Clover wrote:
      It's not really that the Lakers haven't adjusted to it. They don't match up well against the Rockets line up at all. I don't care what adjustments they make.

      If the Rockets are making their 3's and the Lakers cant match their 3 pt output the Lakers aren't winning this series. No if's and's or but's about it.


      By "adjusted" I don't mean in-game or in-series adjustments. I mean wholesale philosophical adjustment. Thinking along the lines of when the run-and-shoot arrived in football and for a period of team, was unstoppable. It was a match-up nightmare for almost everyone until teams "adjusted" by having a different OVERALL approach to facing it.


      That may be true for the league in general, but I don't think that's the case for this series. The Rockets are simply a bad match up and the true thing keeping them from really winning this series is that they can go cold from 3 pt any time. They live and die by the 3. The Lakers would either really need to clamp down or just hope the Rockets miss their open looks similar to the OKC series in game 4.


      I actually think you are saying the same thing I am. Because I agree. I'm saying that the league has not adjusted to this unique approach by having a roster than is better equipped to combat it. So, I don't think there is an "adjustment" the Lakers can make during this series that fixes those issues. I'm saying that if small-ball proves successful, teams will be adjusting for it by changing the way their roster is constructed.

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