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Post#1281 » by skulky » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:12 pm

stormi wrote:Devonte Graham is going absolutely nowhere man

I think they consider it. If they bring in ball or killian Hayes at 3. They have a cheap core with pj washingotn, miles bridges. What do they do with monk, rozier, and graham? Graham is on an expiring and about to get expensive, if they don’t think he will be worth low 20 million per season, while trying to develop number 3 pick guard and tank for 2021. Acquiring Thybulle, 21/34/36 and future first is not the worst deal. Horford has one more year than rozier. Next year he’ll make 10 mil more, and final season is only guaranteed 14.5. It’s not cheap but they’re not going anywhere and being compensated with basically 3 firsts and 2 high seconds.
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Post#1282 » by stormi » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:19 pm

Not a fan of sacrificing that much draft capital, but there is a deal to be made with Charlotte stylistically regarding their surpluss of guards and our lack of them. A Horford for Rozier type deal would be super great.
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Post#1283 » by DT RAW » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:21 pm

I dont think charlotte trades both graham and rozier.. however I would take either one they offered for horford, we can take batum back with graham to make it work.

Graham is 1 year younger, rozier is the better defender but costs a lot more. I'll take either
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Post#1284 » by youngcrev » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:30 pm

If they're willing to do a Horford/Rozier based swap, have at it. Not giving up a 1st for him.
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Post#1285 » by DT RAW » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:31 pm

Honestly I really like the charlotte deals the more I think of it... we can even get cap relief with zeller having only 1 year left if we had to take him back and same thing with batum if we have to take him back. Honestly I probably prefer graham and batum for horford and whatever filler they want

that means after next year we shed batum and have graham on an essentially league minimum contract. This seems to be our best trade partner for Horford and I am now really hoping we go this route
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Post#1286 » by DT RAW » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:32 pm

youngcrev wrote:If they're willing to do a Horford/Rozier based swap, have at it. Not giving up a 1st for him.


how about graham and batum for horford and our two 2nds?

I'm so down for that deal. Graham is a scorer at all 3 levels and has that mind set needed to be able to play along side guys like embiid and simmons.
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Post#1287 » by Arsenal » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:33 pm

DT RAW wrote:
youngcrev wrote:If they're willing to do a Horford/Rozier based swap, have at it. Not giving up a 1st for him.


how about graham and batum for horford and our two 2nds?

I'm so down for that deal. Graham is a scorer at all 3 levels and has that mind set needed to be able to play along side guys like embiid and simmons.


There's no way they're dumb enough to do this. Unless Jordan starts meddling again, so I guess there is hope.
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Post#1288 » by DT RAW » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:38 pm

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DT RAW wrote:
youngcrev wrote:If they're willing to do a Horford/Rozier based swap, have at it. Not giving up a 1st for him.


how about graham and batum for horford and our two 2nds?

I'm so down for that deal. Graham is a scorer at all 3 levels and has that mind set needed to be able to play along side guys like embiid and simmons.


There's no way they're dumb enough to do this. Unless Jordan starts meddling again, so I guess there is hope.


why it seems they do want a veteran starting center to try to push for the playoffs with their young roster. They cant win with both rozier and graham as their starting back court.

I mean I'll do it for rozier and zeller too or hell rozier and monk for horford
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Post#1289 » by Arsenal » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:40 pm

DT RAW wrote:
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DT RAW wrote:
how about graham and batum for horford and our two 2nds?

I'm so down for that deal. Graham is a scorer at all 3 levels and has that mind set needed to be able to play along side guys like embiid and simmons.


There's no way they're dumb enough to do this. Unless Jordan starts meddling again, so I guess there is hope.


why it seems they do want a veteran starting center to try to push for the playoffs with their young roster. They cant win with both rozier and graham as their starting back court.

I mean I'll do it for rozier and zeller too or hell rozier and monk for horford


Horford's contract is toxic. We'll be forced to add decent value to get off it. Unless the other team is really dumb, so I guess there's some hope re: CHA.
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Post#1290 » by DT RAW » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:44 pm

they have terry rozier's clone in graham for 1/19th the cost.. rozier and parts for horford and a pick or 2 isnt a large stretch IMO
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Post#1291 » by youngcrev » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:45 pm

DT RAW wrote:
youngcrev wrote:If they're willing to do a Horford/Rozier based swap, have at it. Not giving up a 1st for him.


how about graham and batum for horford and our two 2nds?

I'm so down for that deal. Graham is a scorer at all 3 levels and has that mind set needed to be able to play along side guys like embiid and simmons.


I don't think they'd make that deal even without Graham.
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Post#1292 » by DT RAW » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:50 pm

ok now you guys are over doing it.

Horford isnt that much of a negative to where they wouldnt trade batum for horford strait up... just stop
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Post#1293 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:54 pm

If Charlotte parts with either guard, it'll be Rozier. There's no getting Graham in this deal. Dealing Horford is definitely a priority, but expecting anything more than a bad contract and minimal talent in return is a pipe dream. If we want Graham for Horford, it'll cost us at the very least Mattise Thybulle and a pick. I love Graham, I wanted us to draft him with one of our 2,698 second round picks we sold, but I feel like Shake does similar things on this team for us. Rozier would be the only option in my opinion in regards to a deal with Charlotte. I'd be fine with that, but I don't see them accepting this quietly. Horford/JRich for Rozier/Zeller if Tobias/JRich for CP3 didn't work. We need to dig our heels in on keeping young assets and picks this time. Mattise is basically untouchable unless we're swinging for the upper deck and going after Beal, Lavine, or a player of that stature, in which case, we're mortgaging any future we may possibly have beyond Jo and Ben.
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Post#1294 » by VDT » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:56 pm

Someone on the trade board had proposed a trade involving Horford and Winslow. I would take that and run if it was available, provided Winslow is healthy.
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Post#1295 » by youngcrev » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:59 pm

DT RAW wrote:ok now you guys are over doing it.

Horford isnt that much of a negative to where they wouldnt trade batum for horford strait up... just stop


Batum's an expiring contract. I don't think the Sixers could get that for Horford without adding assets.
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Post#1296 » by Arsenal » Sat Sep 5, 2020 8:02 pm

DT RAW wrote:ok now you guys are over doing it.

Horford isnt that much of a negative to where they wouldnt trade batum for horford strait up... just stop


There's no way they trade Batum for Horford straight up. I think you're overly optimistic re: Horford and Tobias' trade value.
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Post#1297 » by skulky » Sat Sep 5, 2020 8:25 pm

Devonte Graham’s contract is up after next season. It would be a similar move to the tobias trade, knowing Graham will be up for a big payday, probably a little less than FVV, I’d imagine he’d be in the 18-22 million per range.
I think rozier is far more likely, because both monk and graham are about to be paid.
We’d be giving up a lot, but clearing horford. Getting a legit starting guard that can shoot high volume 3s and initiate the offense. As well as 2 contracts we could move with Richardson and Thybulle for something bigger. And even if we don’t having bench of Thybulle, zeller, rozier is an improvement as well
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Post#1298 » by Kobblehead » Sat Sep 5, 2020 8:46 pm

Why is Devonte Graham a coveted asset?

Nice handle and shooting ability, but he's a terrible finisher and he can't really guard anyone. And he's like 6'2" with stilts.
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Post#1299 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Sep 5, 2020 9:00 pm

Devonte Graham is a scorer so I get the appeal here, but this would be a one year rental and then we'd either have to find a way to pay him or let him walk. I know he's a productive player, probably the MIP in the league this year, but I still feel like we can get the same type of work from a much more affordable player under our current circumstances.
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Post#1300 » by Kobblehead » Sat Sep 5, 2020 9:04 pm

How good a scorer is he even, though? Dude got more than half of his points per game behind the three point line. That seems excessive and crazy.

Pretty sure Isaiah Canaan could put up identical stats if he got the green light to shoot over 9 threes a game.

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