2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick 4th!

[MrFortune3]

Deni reminds me of the Saric in the same way he reminds me of Luka. By which I mean he reminds me of neither.

The attempted comparison makes no sense whatsoever. Completely different players.

[holv03]

What do you guys think of Isaac Okoro?

Sometimes he reminds me of Jimmy Butler at Marquette. He's a good defender but his offense needs to improve. He has that dog mentality that Jimmy has on defense and I believe that with hard work his offense could improve. He's an intriguing prospect who might end up being a very good player.

[MrSparkle]

I’m settling in on my Deng/Khryapa/Noc comparison/prediction for Deni.

There is no way this Deni will be a straight defensive liability like Saric. Reports are his work ethic is intense; he’s quicker, and he seems really strong and in peak conditioning; in his interview, he sounded super poised, confident, and IMO has locker-room leader potential, while also being a good teammate while developing.

[BigUps]

What do you guys think of Isaac Okoro?

Sometimes he reminds me of Jimmy Butler at Marquette. He's a good defender but his offense needs to improve. He has that dog mentality that Jimmy has on defense and I believe that with hard work his offense could improve. He's an intriguing prospect who might end up being a very good player.

It may seem like I'm peddling a lot of pro Vassell posts here, but if you're looking for the elite defender that actually has a semblance of an offensive game its Vassell. He's the best defender in this draft and one of the best shooters too. I wouldn't even consider Okoro over him if thats what you're looking for.

[holv03]

What do you guys think of Isaac Okoro?

Sometimes he reminds me of Jimmy Butler at Marquette. He's a good defender but his offense needs to improve. He has that dog mentality that Jimmy has on defense and I believe that with hard work his offense could improve. He's an intriguing prospect who might end up being a very good player.

It may seem like I'm peddling a lot of pro Vassell posts here, but if you're looking for the elite defender that actually has a semblance of an offensive game its Vassell. He's the best defender in this draft and one of the best shooters too. I wouldn't even consider Okoro over him if thats what you're looking for.

I actually love Devin Vassell game. He is an elite defender and he also has a solid offensive game. I am not sure if we are having any private work outs with the players before the draft but I believe if we did he will rise in the draft.

[PlayerUp]

If we can get another 1st round pick and take a guy like McDaniels on the back end, that would be great.

Alot of playoff teams could be desperate to make a power move to have better chances at winning in 2020-21. With a limited free agent market, you would think teams will make calls on Otto Porter, Thad Young, Zach Lavine, Wendell and Lauri. On the Bulls Reddit page, a Dallas fan for example offered the #18 + #31 + Tim Hardaway + Delon for Otto Porter. Previously AK went this route in Denver gradually selling players for assets and I assume he'll go this route again which is why I expect half this current roster to be gone within 1 year.

[PlayerUp]

I wouldn't even consider Okoro over him if thats what you're looking for.

Vassell as of now is clearly the better player. Okoro draft value is based more on potential due to his athleticism and defensive abilities but probabaly won't make much of an impact in his 1st 1-2 seasons in the NBA. Defensively they both look solid but offensively Vassell game is more polished, he'll have a defined role going into the NBA and has a solid shot. They're also only 4 months apart from each other.

Most would agree that Vassell > Okoro in terms of what the Bulls need.

[RoseTheFuture22]

I'm in on Deni. I don't know why exactly but he gives me some Lakers Lamar Odom vibes. His handle, passing, and feel for the game just really stand out and I think it will translate. He should have enough speed and athleticism to play a decent amount of 3 initially and then will probably shift to more of a 4 later in his career.

[MrFortune3]

If we can get another 1st round pick and take a guy like McDaniels on the back end, that would be great.

Alot of playoff teams could be desperate to make a power move to have better chances of winning in 2020-21. With a limited free agent market, you would think teams will make calls on Otto Porter, Thad Young, Zach Lavine, Wendell and Lauri. On on the Bulls Reddit page, a Dallas fan for example offered the #18 + #31 + Tim Hardaway + Delon for Otto Porter. Previously AK went this route in Denver gradually selling players for assets and I assume he'll go this route again which is why I expect half this current roster to be gone within 1 year.

I agree that most of the roster will likely be overturned soon. I think Zach will end up being the guy they build around.

[PlayerUp]

What do you guys think of Isaac Okoro?

Sometimes he reminds me of Jimmy Butler at Marquette. He's a good defender but his offense needs to improve. He has that dog mentality that Jimmy has on defense and I believe that with hard work his offense could improve. He's an intriguing prospect who might end up being a very good player.

What Jimmy did by developing an offensive game at the next level and improving every season is rare. 99.8%+ of players don't improve their games at a rapid rate like this and we shouldn't draft players in hopes they could be our new Jimmy Butler. Okoro offensive game is so undeveloped (can't create/inconsistent/undeveloped shot) it will take him a couple of seasons for him to really make an impact offensively assuming he can somehow develop which isn't a guarantee. Okoro has had 6 months to work on developing a more consistent shot so if he wants to show off that he can develop a quality shot in the NBA, he can do that during predraft workouts to move himself up into the Top 8 in this draft.

[Bulls Fan 23]

I want to buy a late first round pick to take Tyler Bey out of Colorado. Awesome defender not a bad shooter. Then take Paul Reed in the second round. Reed is another excellent defender.

[PaKii94]

What do you guys think of Isaac Okoro?

Sometimes he reminds me of Jimmy Butler at Marquette. He's a good defender but his offense needs to improve. He has that dog mentality that Jimmy has on defense and I believe that with hard work his offense could improve. He's an intriguing prospect who might end up being a very good player.

It may seem like I'm peddling a lot of pro Vassell posts here, but if you're looking for the elite defender that actually has a semblance of an offensive game its Vassell. He's the best defender in this draft and one of the best shooters too. I wouldn't even consider Okoro over him if thats what you're looking for.

I actually love Devin Vassell game. He is an elite defender and he also has a solid offensive game. I am not sure if we are having any private work outs with the players before the draft but I believe if we did he will rise in the draft.

Yeah I can't consider Okoro over vassell. I don't wanna gamble on developing offensive game. He could be the next MKG. Which isn't a bad player but still not the best

[Pax for Prez]

If we can get another 1st round pick and take a guy like McDaniels on the back end, that would be great.

Alot of playoff teams could be desperate to make a power move to have better chances of winning in 2020-21. With a limited free agent market, you would think teams will make calls on Otto Porter, Thad Young, Zach Lavine, Wendell and Lauri. On on the Bulls Reddit page, a Dallas fan for example offered the #18 + #31 + Tim Hardaway + Delon for Otto Porter. Previously AK went this route in Denver gradually selling players for assets and I assume he'll go this route again which is why I expect half this current roster to be gone within 1 year.

I agree that most of the roster will likely be overturned soon. I think Zach will end up being the guy they build around.

The roster is set up with not many long term commitments for AK after this season to make it easy to reshape:

Porter, Kornet and Felicio come off the books as Free Agents

Young & Sato have reasonable buyouts and Arcidiacono has a team option they can declined.

This leaves a roster consisting of only LaVine, White, Carter, Lari (RFA), Gafford, Hutchison and this year additions (draft picks and FAs made by AK)

Pax

[Bulls Fan 23]

If we can get another 1st round pick and take a guy like McDaniels on the back end, that would be great.

Alot of playoff teams could be desperate to make a power move to have better chances at winning in 2020-21. With a limited free agent market, you would think teams will make calls on Otto Porter, Thad Young, Zach Lavine, Wendell and Lauri. On on the Bulls Reddit page, a Dallas fan for example offered the #18 + #31 + Tim Hardaway + Delon for Otto Porter. Previously AK went this route in Denver gradually selling players for assets and I assume he'll go this route again which is why I expect half this current roster to be gone within 1 year.

I would do that trade.

[PlayerUp]

I want to buy a late first round pick to take Tyler Bey out of Colorado. Awesome defender not a bad shooter. Then take Paul Reed in the second round. Reed is another excellent defender.

AK has a history of buying picks but it's pretty uncommon for teams to sell their 1st Round Picks. However Brian Windhorst did mention this specific draft you may see more teams trying to sell their picks for cash - https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29544380/nba-owners-current-financial-turmoil-portends-future-payroll-problems. Teams like the Celtics, 76ers, Kings, Pelicans have a variety of picks.

Tyler Bey may move into the 2nd Rd. There is also Desmond Bane out of TCU. Some quality Soph and Junior prospects in this draft that could be solid role players at the next level.

However if we can get a late 1st Rd Pick, I would rather try to find a way to move up for Aleksej Pokusevski or Kira Lewis. Go for higher ceiling prospects. AK did this in the last 2 drafts buying Bol Bol and taking a risk on Porter Jr. Hoping he finds a way to do this again.

[MrFortune3]

Alot of playoff teams could be desperate to make a power move to have better chances of winning in 2020-21. With a limited free agent market, you would think teams will make calls on Otto Porter, Thad Young, Zach Lavine, Wendell and Lauri. On on the Bulls Reddit page, a Dallas fan for example offered the #18 + #31 + Tim Hardaway + Delon for Otto Porter. Previously AK went this route in Denver gradually selling players for assets and I assume he'll go this route again which is why I expect half this current roster to be gone within 1 year.

I agree that most of the roster will likely be overturned soon. I think Zach will end up being the guy they build around.

The roster is set up with not many long term commitments for AK after this season to make it easy to reshape:

Porter, Kornet and Felicio come off the books as Free Agents

Young & Sato have reasonable buyouts and Arcidiacono has a team option they can declined.

This leaves a roster consisting of only LaVine, White, Carter, Lari (RFA), Gafford, Hutchison and this year additions (draft picks and FAs made by AK)

Pax

How the roster looks next season after the trade deadline will be very interesting to see.

[prolific passer]

If only we got the 3rd pick. Had some nice luck with that one.

[drosereturn]

I’m settling in on my Deng/Khryapa/Noc comparison/prediction for Deni.

There is no way this Deni will be a straight defensive liability like Saric. Reports are his work ethic is intense; he’s quicker, and he seems really strong and in peak conditioning; in his interview, he sounded super poised, confident, and IMO has locker-room leader potential, while also being a good teammate while developing.

I think Saric level prospect is fair for Deni. Bit of a revisionist history but Saric was a great playmaker in the day I was very high on him. He just didnt use his size for defense and didnt try hard enough.

[Just_Bullz]

Ideally I like Haliburton to be on the team. He seems like a Tayshuan Prince and SGA hybrid who won't be a negative to the Bulls.

Having another ball handler and shooter with defence is always welcomed. Not as if this is a franchise player grade draft hence the gap in quality between picks is not gargantuan.

[Bulls Fan 23]

I want to buy a late first round pick to take Tyler Bey out of Colorado. Awesome defender not a bad shooter. Then take Paul Reed in the second round. Reed is another excellent defender.

AK has a history of buying picks but it's pretty uncommon for teams to sell their 1st Round Picks. However Brian Windhorst did mention this specific draft you may see more teams trying to sell their picks for cash - https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29544380/nba-owners-current-financial-turmoil-portends-future-payroll-problems. Teams like the Celtics, 76ers, Kings, Pelicans have a variety of picks.

Tyler Bey may move into the 2nd Rd. There is also Desmond Bane out of TCU. Some quality Soph and Junior prospects in this draft that could be solid role players at the next level.

However if we can get a late 1st Rd Pick, I would rather try to find a way to move up for Aleksej Pokusevski or Kira Lewis. Go for higher ceiling prospects. AK did this in the last 2 drafts buying Bol Bol and taking a risk on Porter Jr. Hoping he finds a way to do this again.

I think Kira will shoot up into the lottery. He's going to be good.