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Post#281 » by Old_Blue » Sat Sep 5, 2020 11:53 pm

Little Digger wrote:Giannis is not staying in Milwaukee..Nobody stays volunteerly

I’d rank his possible landing spots like this

1. Dallas
2. San Francisco
3.Toronto
4. Miami


Does Dallas have anything left to trade for Giannis? They already traded away their 2021 and 2023 first round picks to land Porzingis. I'd rank the Warriors as having a better chance of trading for Giannis. However, if the Bucks are unwilling to trade Giannis, the Heat definitely have the best shot of signing him as an unrestricted free agent the year after. They're going to have a ton of cap space available to them.
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Post#282 » by Little Digger » Sat Sep 5, 2020 11:58 pm

In today’s NBA , superstars have total control over who they play for..Kawhi, Lebron, Giannis, Steph , Harden, Davis ect
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Post#283 » by ahmetmekin » Sun Sep 6, 2020 12:00 am

I think Luka is too ball dominant for Giannis to shine and also Dallas is not a big market. I don't think he will go there.
Also, Giannis is questionable for the game tomorrow.
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Post#284 » by wco81 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 1:06 am

Dallas is about the size of the Bay Area in media DMAs.

It's actually bigger. Also bigger than Houston, which is surprising:

https://mediatracks.com/resources/nielsen-dma-rankings-2019/
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Post#285 » by Coxy » Sun Sep 6, 2020 1:23 am

wco81 wrote:Dallas is about the size of the Bay Area in media DMAs.

It's actually bigger. Also bigger than Houston, which is surprising:

https://mediatracks.com/resources/nielsen-dma-rankings-2019/


That is suprising.
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Post#286 » by ahmetmekin » Sun Sep 6, 2020 2:35 am

wco81 wrote:Dallas is about the size of the Bay Area in media DMAs.

It's actually bigger. Also bigger than Houston, which is surprising:

https://mediatracks.com/resources/nielsen-dma-rankings-2019/

Interesting.
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Post#287 » by Flash Falcon X » Sun Sep 6, 2020 3:43 am

I think people forget about Dallas being a big market because they haven’t won much other than the 2011 championship.

When the Warriors sucked for decades, no one ever talked about Golden State being a big market. There was never talks about a star wanting to possibly play in the “big lights of the Bay Area” and help save the franchise or to get involved in the Silicon Valley scene.

Most people didn’t even know where exactly the Warriors played at. And if they did know, they assumed the Warriors only represent Oakland and not the entire Bay.

Wasn’t until Warriors started winning that the Bay started getting more respect as a market, especially since 2013 kinda coincided with a lot of tech and social networks blowing up.
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Post#288 » by Flash Falcon X » Sun Sep 6, 2020 3:46 am

But yeah, let’s talk about Giannis being questionable for tomorrow.

Imagine missing a game and watching your team get swept.

I don’t know, I’m slightly concerned that this might be so embarrassing for Giannis that it would actually motivate him to run it back with Milwaukee to prove everyone wrong. At least if he lost in competitive fashion, he can leave and say he at least gave it his best shot... but getting swept? Might trigger something in him to stay, but of course I’m hoping that’s not the case.
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Post#289 » by HiRez » Sun Sep 6, 2020 4:21 am

Flash Falcon X wrote:I don’t know, I’m slightly concerned that this might be so embarrassing for Giannis that it would actually motivate him to run it back with Milwaukee to prove everyone wrong.

Was thinking the same thing, I hope he plays.
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Post#290 » by jason bourne » Sun Sep 6, 2020 7:08 am

Little Digger wrote:Giannis is not staying in Milwaukee..Nobody stays volunteerly

I’d rank his possible landing spots like this

1. Dallas
2. San Francisco
3.Toronto
4. Miami


Lol @ nobody stays voluntarily on the Bucks.

It could be Miami and Toronto have moved ahead of the Ws according to this -- https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/09/heat-raptors-may-be-frontrunners-for-giannis-antetokounmpo.html as they have the players and cap space to swing a big deal. Dallas is in a better cap situation than the Ws so they would be next.

Of course, you guys are right in that the most important input would be from Akumpo and his list of teams to be traded to. It would really hinge on the relationship that he has with Steph and how the Ws have added 3-pt shooting to their overall team.

I think the Ws use the TPE to gain more cap flexibility. There's another thread on that, but it could be used to help lead up to a Giannis deal. Anyway, one has to think of some alternatives in case another team or two gets a slot or two ahead of the Ws for Giannis. I mean there may a 3-way or other deal the Ws can get into if it appears Giannis will end up elsewhere besides San Francisco.

ETA: There have been 3-way proposals and they sound interesting as the Ws end up getting Giannis. It may be the most realistic ones I've heard.
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Post#291 » by jason bourne » Sun Sep 6, 2020 2:42 pm

SAS sez Warriors get Giannis. Okay, ESPN isn't my go to website for rumors, but this one I like even if it's SAS :lol: .

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/gs/golden-state-warriors
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Post#292 » by whatisacenter » Sun Sep 6, 2020 5:25 pm

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Post#293 » by clyde21 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 5:46 pm

ahmetmekin wrote:I think Luka is too ball dominant for Giannis to shine and also Dallas is not a big market. I don't think he will go there.
Also, Giannis is questionable for the game tomorrow.


Dalla-Fortworth is a bigger media market than the Bay Area, 4th or 5th biggest in country
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Post#294 » by wco81 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 6:45 pm

Objectively speaking, Luka would be more in Giannis' timeline than Curry, Klay and Draymond.

Also true for Bam in Miami though Jimmy is old now.

But when Luka is pounding the ball for most of the possession, what is Giannis going to do, spot up for a kick out pass? At most he'd be diving to the basket at some point for a lob or a drop off pass off the pick and roll and he night have a running start at the rim.

Giannis is good with the ball in his hand in transition but in the half court, he may have to develop more of a face up or back to the basket game from mid range.
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Post#295 » by Little Digger » Sun Sep 6, 2020 6:56 pm

Luka is totally unselfish and razor smart.. he’s like Steph..there’s no issue there on his end..
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Post#296 » by Mylie10 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 7:54 pm

Little Digger wrote:Luka is totally unselfish and razor smart.. he’s like Steph..there’s no issue there on his end..


Maybe, but Doncic does control the ball on every possession. I’m not saying it can’t work, but it is something that could become an issue.

Personally I don’t think Doncic wants to share the spotlight in that way. I fully believe he’s not threatened by Porzingas (rightfully so), but Giannis is on another level.

The great thing about the Warriors fit, is that there isn’t a true point guard needed to run the offense. Giannis or draymond or Steph could all initiate the offense and the ball is gonna move regardless.
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Post#297 » by HiRez » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:15 pm

Looks like Giannis might score 50+ points in this game but if he scores 50+ and they still lose it will kind of be the perfect illustration of why he may need to leave.
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Post#298 » by ShayDee » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:21 pm

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Post#299 » by The Maestro » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:43 pm

HiRez wrote:Looks like Giannis might score 50+ points in this game but if he scores 50+ and they still lose it will kind of be the perfect illustration of why he may need to leave.


Absolutely. This injury sucks. We want him to play and play great and still lose. Being injured and not playing is not good.
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Post#300 » by jason bourne » Sun Sep 6, 2020 9:24 pm

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HiRez wrote:Looks like Giannis might score 50+ points in this game but if he scores 50+ and they still lose it will kind of be the perfect illustration of why he may need to leave.


Absolutely. This injury sucks. We want him to play and play great and still lose. Being injured and not playing is not good.


Absolutely. I think you guys are right as Giannis may not want to leave with an injury. Now, it would be nice for the Bucks to win today. They are playing better without Giannis on the floor. Giannis needs to play and the Bucks lose to be convinced he has to find another team.
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