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PG Miami - We have a pulse

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Post#141 » by Fotis St » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:08 pm

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Fotis St wrote:Khris is not a stud, we just witnessed his peak as a player.
Really sad that it was while Giannis was not on the court and down 3-0


What a sad little wold the Khris haters live in.


He went God mode on one game after a 3-0 series and our Superstar injured.
I am happy for him finally reaching his peak.
I wish he did it 2 weeks ago.
I hope he keeps playing at this level.
I support him to do so. I wish he could. I wish it was not too late.
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Post#142 » by yannisk » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:09 pm

Middleton was good but let's not exaggerate, he was 12/28, he has good and bad series. He was great against Boston two years ago, he was terrible last year against Toronto. We know him he is not some secret weapon that was unleashed
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Post#143 » by jakecronus8 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:10 pm

Herro is a stone cold killer. If the Bucks do the miraculous I demand Bucks fans flood Heat fans with Herro in Bucks creme photoshops for the next three years.
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Post#144 » by bcks fan » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:10 pm

yannisk wrote:Middleton was good but let's not exaggerate, he was 12/28, he has good and bad series. He was great against Boston two years ago, he was terrible last year against Toronto. We know him he is not some secret weapon that was unleashed


Exactly

The stud talk is ridiculous. He isn’t prime Kobe. That’s a stud for heavens sake.


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Post#145 » by LuessiT » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:11 pm

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RiotPunch wrote:Khris Middleton and Wesley Matthews.

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Bud seemed to have had the light bulb moment that he needs Wes on Jimmy down the stretch. That is a minor, realistic change that could make a massive difference going forward.


I mean half the media and most of this board thought it was a good idea to put Giannis on Butler after game 1.

If we guard Butler every minute he's on the floor with Matthews or Bledsoe and go under every screen versus him, if we don't close out on Iggy at the 3 point line, if we don't play Pat or Korver unless in ATO sets and if we find a way not to get outrebounded 4v1 vs Adebayo we win this series.

That's true, but I sure as hell didn't.

Agree with everything else. Wes/Bled can switch throughout, but I do trust Wes most on Jimmy in high leverage situations. He is calculated and disruptive.


I wasn't trying to put you on the spot. Just in general there's huge noise and little actual basketball talk.
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Post#146 » by Bucksmaniac » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:13 pm

Literally no mention of Brook in this thread, shows just how underrated he is by his own team’s fans. He’s had a great series and added some good rim protection to the great offensive play in this game.
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Post#147 » by Warriors Analyst » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:13 pm

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Max Green wrote:We played better without Giannis :-?


Bud is a better coach without Giannis, just as Kerr was a better coach without KD. The presence of both of either megastar reinforces Kerr/Bud’s worst coaching habits. In Kerr’s case it was triangle concepts and mid post ISO’s for KD that bogged down the ball movement and made, for Bud, having Giannis makes it too easy to rely on drive and kick over and over again and ignore Middleton’s prowess in pick and rolls or ISO’d up top.


We ain't giving you Giannis buddy. This is a good problem to have. He's got to be a better coach.


I only post here periodically, so I’m not sure this has come up before, but I want Giannis to stay in Milwaukee. I’ve posted on this board since the Jackson and Maggette days, largely in part because I felt sympathy towards another suffering fan base with a terrible owner and management. I’ve been watching Giannis since he was a rookie and in the last few years I’ve watched more of Milwaukee than I have Golden State. I’d like nothing more than for Giannis and Curry to face off in the Finals year after year. I don’t want Giannis to have the black mark KD had on his career and I want to see Steph carry a team again. Just can’t see it happening with Bud at the helm unless he has a come to Jesus moment. Middleton should have been handling the ball way more in the first three games of the series.
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Post#148 » by trwi7 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:15 pm

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yannisk wrote:Middleton was good but let's not exaggerate, he was 12/28, he has good and bad series. He was great against Boston two years ago, he was terrible last year against Toronto. We know him he is not some secret weapon that was unleashed


Exactly

The stud talk is ridiculous. He isn’t prime Kobe. That’s a stud for heavens sake.


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Prime Kobe shot 13-33 in an elimination game when he was the same age as Khris that the Lakers lost.
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Post#149 » by tydett » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:17 pm

Khris also shot 12/28 in a game when the Heat KNEW after the 1st quarter that Middleton was going to be the Guy for the team. He was phenomenal today and it's tough to justify taking a different position.
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Post#150 » by DrWood » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:17 pm

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DrWood wrote:Playing Wes was pretty much a prescription to get blown away in this game.


Ummmmmmmmmmmm.....

He was -25. Not close to any other player. The bucks played worst when he was on the floor. Which is not to say that they played badly every minute he was on the floor.
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Post#151 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:17 pm

Khris was incredible.
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Post#152 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:19 pm

Hell yeah! **** a sweep! Gotta respect that resiliency.
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Post#153 » by truly » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:19 pm

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DrWood wrote:Playing Wes was pretty much a prescription to get blown away in this game.


Ummmmmmmmmmmm.....

He was -25. Not close to any other player. The bucks played worst when he was on the floor. Which is not to say that they played badly every minute he was on the floor.



Stop using single game +/- to judge player performance.
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Post#154 » by tski1972 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:20 pm

I don’t think there’s enough Pat Connaughton hate in this thread
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Post#155 » by Bucksfan28 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:20 pm

tydett wrote:Khris also shot 12/28 in a game when the Heat KNEW after the 1st quarter that Middleton was going to be the Guy for the team. He was phenomenal today and it's tough to justify taking a different position.


Started 1-5, 0-2 also. Went 11/23, 3/5 after that and added 9 FTs.
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Post#156 » by DrWood » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:21 pm

truly wrote:
DrWood wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:
Ummmmmmmmmmmm.....

He was -25. Not close to any other player. The bucks played worst when he was on the floor. Which is not to say that they played badly every minute he was on the floor.



Stop using single game +/- to judge player performance.

When some guy was -25, it's pretty safe to say it's stupid to say that the team would have done a lot better if he played more. It's context. Similarly if some guy was +20, you're crazy to say the team lost because of him.

Just because you're not clever enough to evaluate one-game +/- doesn't mean that everyone is the same as you.
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Post#157 » by DavidDunn21 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:21 pm

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Prez wrote:36/8/8 with 9 in OT in an elimination game w/o the MVP

Khris is a stud and the haters can eat it
No points in the 4th, deferred to Donte with the season on the line, stumbled around the overtime before he hit a few shots...but but but....

He finally hit a big shot and he finally played good in a win so I have nothing bad to say.

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Post#158 » by Chad34 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:22 pm

tski1972 wrote:I don’t think there’s enough Pat Connaughton hate in this thread

why can't we have a white guy that can make threes :dontknow:
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Post#159 » by Prez » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:22 pm

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Post#160 » by coolhandluke121 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 11:25 pm

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Imagine how good the other guys could be if Giannis was willing to drag the Heat's two best defenders away from the ball on a regular basis instead of going for his regardless of how many guys are set and how far from the basket he is.

He was really good today when he played though. Saved them when they would have fallen WAY behind early. Just mix that in with what everyone else is capable of contributing and we'd all forget this bubble **** fast.

Miami is not very good. I continue to firmly believe that. Bucks have totally sabotaged themselves in this series.


That’s on Bud not Giannis


Yeah. Our spacing is awful. Giannis gets the ball. The double team is coming.

Hill/Marvin/Wes have their back on him slowly getting to their spot not in a hurry.
Lopez is 10 feet away from the 3p line for no reason and his defender is near the paint.
Bledsoe is ready for a brick and doesn't move and if he gets the ball hesitates or when he sees that his defender is not paying him any attention he also comes inside for no reason clogging the paint even farther for Giannis.
Middleton has a defender all over him far away from Giannis.
Giannis is getting swarmed and half the guys are not at their spot. Somehow with two guys on him nobody is open unless it's Bledsoe or someone else in the far corner. Evevybody is just standing there watching him either force the issue or turn the ball over.

Only Pat and Donte are smart/quick enough to make frequent fast cut and Giannis finds them for easy layups all of the time.

Other than that nobody is moving and it makes the job of the defenders much easier especially when the drill for the same play over and over again throughout a series.

Bud should have had atleast 5 different plays for Giannis to get the ball in the paint or make use of his gravity and instead we have only a couple that we don't even execute properly.


This is a Bucks forum, not a Giannis forum. If you can't handle perfectly fair criticisms of the way Giannis has played for most of the series and can't see how much healthier the teamwork dynamic has usually been when he's out, then you shouldn't be participating.


There is some truth to guys not being great at knowing what to do off the ball when Giannis has it, but that's mainly because Giannis shouldn't have it behind the arc so damn much unless it's on a fast break, or at least before the defense is fully set. That was the biggest issue in games 1-3.
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