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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#1701 » by sogood » Tue Sep 8, 2020 4:18 pm

Mav_Carter wrote:Boston would do Smart for the TPE straight up...they gotta pay Jaylen and Jayson...


No they wouldn’t lol. Smart is the heart and soul of that team.
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Post#1702 » by Mylie10 » Tue Sep 8, 2020 4:39 pm

Mav_Carter wrote:Boston would do Smart for the TPE straight up...they gotta pay Jaylen and Jayson...


Maybe. Would be friggen awesome if they pulled that off, but I doubt it.

I think the first thing Ainge is gonna try and do is to find a deal involving Hayward.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#1703 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Sep 8, 2020 5:23 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
Mav_Carter wrote:Boston would do Smart for the TPE straight up...they gotta pay Jaylen and Jayson...


Maybe. Would be friggen awesome if they pulled that off, but I doubt it.

I think the first thing Ainge is gonna try and do is to find a deal involving Hayward.


I don't know if there are any ways under the cap for the Warriors to get Hayward and pay him using the TPE. I suspect it's not possible.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#1704 » by Mylie10 » Tue Sep 8, 2020 5:50 pm

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Mylie10 wrote:
Mav_Carter wrote:Boston would do Smart for the TPE straight up...they gotta pay Jaylen and Jayson...


Maybe. Would be friggen awesome if they pulled that off, but I doubt it.

I think the first thing Ainge is gonna try and do is to find a deal involving Hayward.


I don't know if there are any ways under the cap for the Warriors to get Hayward and pay him using the TPE. I suspect it's not possible.


Not Hayward, Smart.

My point was that if he can Ainge may want to try and move Hayward’s salary. Not to us per se.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#1705 » by ShayDee » Tue Sep 8, 2020 6:05 pm

Mylie10 wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
Maybe. Would be friggen awesome if they pulled that off, but I doubt it.

I think the first thing Ainge is gonna try and do is to find a deal involving Hayward.


I don't know if there are any ways under the cap for the Warriors to get Hayward and pay him using the TPE. I suspect it's not possible.


Not Hayward, Smart.

My point was that if he can Ainge may want to try and move Hayward’s salary. Not to us per se.


#2 and future 1st(not minny pick) for Smart 14 and 26?

Get Bey/Pat will at 14, Bane at 26

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Smart Bane Bey Paschall Chriss
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Post#1706 » by AdonalFoyle4Prez » Tue Sep 8, 2020 7:50 pm

ShayDee wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
I don't know if there are any ways under the cap for the Warriors to get Hayward and pay him using the TPE. I suspect it's not possible.


Not Hayward, Smart.

My point was that if he can Ainge may want to try and move Hayward’s salary. Not to us per se.


#2 and future 1st(not minny pick) for Smart 14 and 26?

Get Bey/Pat will at 14, Bane at 26

2nd unit

Smart Bane Bey Paschall Chriss


Which Bey? Saddiq Bey or Tyler Bey? Saddiq is a 3&D player, while Tyler is just a defensive player (But, can do a bit of everything exceptionally well a la Shawn Marion, but a master of none). Just hope he can become a solid shooter and we'd have a steal. I'd go with Tyler Bey. And Desmond Bane will be solid off the bench as another shooting threat (shot over 40% from 3 for most of his college career) and another ballhandler. You and I are thinking the same, ShayDee.
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Re: Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back) 

Post#1707 » by jason bourne » Tue Sep 8, 2020 10:04 pm

Mylie10 wrote:Man bro. The first article has a guy from the Sun speculating. Nowhere does Pat Riley say he’s willing to deal anyone. Some guy from the Sun Sentinel saying they could. That’s it.

Second article says they could see them trying to ADD another star. They don’t say anything specific. Are you reading challenged?

Finally you said I said the Warriors were front runners for GIannis. I never said they were front runners, because Giannis would have to force his way here. I merely have a bet going with Digger and Khoee. If you’d like to ask me who I think are the front runners for Giannis, I’d answer....The Bucks

Try to get your facts straight and put me back on ignore.


I have my facts straight and you're still on ignore, so I'll get the last word in on this.

You're the one who can't read and figure out how these rumors are coming out. First, the Warriors still are in the running for Giannis because he has said that he likes the team and there seems to a mutual admiration and legitimate friendship between Steph and Giannis. However, the Warriors are in salary cap difficulties and cannot afford to pay luxury tax on signing someone like Giannis outright. OTOH, we find that the Heat and Raptors have suddenly positioned themselves to be major players and favorites in landing Giannis. This is because they can shed salary to sign Giannis outright, can compete for a championship this season and in the near future, and play a type of ball and have personnel that Giannis would fit in with better than the current Bucks team. The Warriors still do not know how their roster will shake out. The Warriors can't shed salary easily, so will have to trade and will be looking to see 1) if Giannis tries to force his way out of Milwaukee and 2) how the Bucks react in giving in to Giannis' wishes. Likely, they'll concede and try to work a trade and get as much back for him as possible instead of losing him for nothing like what the Pelicans did.

The other reasons the Heat and the Raptors try to work out a trade is because the Warriors are favorites to be a Giannis' landing place. If two teams are already involved in trade discussions, then they'll have to play the trading game, too, for Giannis. All of this should come out in the media and will determine the course of action for those in the Giannis sweepstakes during the off-season.

Some people just can't figure out how things happen in the NBA, do not keep up with the news and rumors, and are just ignorant and incapable of seeing how things can shake out. If the Ws cannot work out a trade, then they may have to settle for second best and try to facilitate a trade with the Giannis sweepstakes winning team. They'll have to see how there is more than one way to skin a championship cat.

Finally, those who can't figure out that James Wiseman and Penny Hardaway had shady dealings in place already at the high school level are truly pathetic. Hardaway was directly involved in getting Wiseman to play at Memphis high school. It's not rocket science wonder he was exposed by the NCAA in college. Yet, Wiseman still had another chance to make good of his college career. Instead, he stupidly blows it by leaving and deciding to make it to the NBA by himself. Wiseman still could've generated a name for himself as a top 3 draft pick and the media would've had a chance to follow his exploits in the remaining Memphis games. His former coach Hardaway would've gladly given him the opportunity. This goes to show the low IQ of Wiseman and how he's willing to go the shady route and not work to make a name for himeself. It would not be a surprise if he's a bust at the NBA level for a team picking him like the Charlotte Hornets.
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Post#1708 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Sep 8, 2020 10:09 pm

Mylie10 wrote:No effing way are the Heat dangling Bam....like that is just uninformed bs.

And the Heat would be looking to try and sign him via free agency if they can trim some of their short contracts the following year. But in a trade scenario they could get it done without moving Adebayo.


What it was Green for Bam? Honestly I think a great like Riley would see the addition of Green as a straight shot to the NBA finals. Bam...nice...very athletic. But Green and Iggy on a team with Butler and their other guys...that's an Eastern champion.

Just a thought on Riley appreciating Draymond's skills more than most would.
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Post#1709 » by Mylie10 » Wed Sep 9, 2020 12:21 am

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Mylie10 wrote:Man bro. The first article has a guy from the Sun speculating. Nowhere does Pat Riley say he’s willing to deal anyone. Some guy from the Sun Sentinel saying they could. That’s it.

Second article says they could see them trying to ADD another star. They don’t say anything specific. Are you reading challenged?

Finally you said I said the Warriors were front runners for GIannis. I never said they were front runners, because Giannis would have to force his way here. I merely have a bet going with Digger and Khoee. If you’d like to ask me who I think are the front runners for Giannis, I’d answer....The Bucks

Try to get your facts straight and put me back on ignore.


I have my facts straight and you're still on ignore, so I'll get the last word in on this.

You're the one who can't read and figure out how these rumors are coming out. First, the Warriors still are in the running for Giannis because he has said that he likes the team and there seems to a mutual admiration and legitimate friendship between Steph and Giannis. However, the Warriors are in salary cap difficulties and cannot afford to pay luxury tax on signing someone like Giannis outright. OTOH, we find that the Heat and Raptors have suddenly positioned themselves to be major players and favorites in landing Giannis. This is because they can shed salary to sign Giannis outright, can compete for a championship this season and in the near future, and play a type of ball and have personnel that Giannis would fit in with better than the current Bucks team. The Warriors still do not know how their roster will shake out. The Warriors can't shed salary easily, so will have to trade and will be looking to see 1) if Giannis tries to force his way out of Milwaukee and 2) how the Bucks react in giving in to Giannis' wishes. Likely, they'll concede and try to work a trade and get as much back for him as possible instead of losing him for nothing like what the Pelicans did.

The other reasons the Heat and the Raptors try to work out a trade is because the Warriors are favorites to be a Giannis' landing place. If two teams are already involved in trade discussions, then they'll have to play the trading game, too, for Giannis. All of this should come out in the media and will determine the course of action for those in the Giannis sweepstakes during the off-season.

Some people just can't figure out how things happen in the NBA, do not keep up with the news and rumors, and are just ignorant and incapable of seeing how things can shake out. If the Ws cannot work out a trade, then they may have to settle for second best and try to facilitate a trade with the Giannis sweepstakes winning team. They'll have to see how there is more than one way to skin a championship cat.

Finally, those who can't figure out that James Wiseman and Penny Hardaway had shady dealings in place already at the high school level are truly pathetic. Hardaway was directly involved in getting Wiseman to play at Memphis high school. It's not rocket science wonder he was exposed by the NCAA in college. Yet, Wiseman still had another chance to make good of his college career. Instead, he stupidly blows it by leaving and deciding to make it to the NBA by himself. Wiseman still could've generated a name for himself as a top 3 draft pick and the media would've had a chance to follow his exploits in the remaining Memphis games. His former coach Hardaway would've gladly given him the opportunity. This goes to show the low IQ of Wiseman and how he's willing to go the shady route and not work to make a name for himeself. It would not be a surprise if he's a bust at the NBA level for a team picking him like the Charlotte Hornets.


Ramble much?

Find me one quote of Riley saying what you said he did.

And everyone knows who will be after Giannis if he becomes available. I don’t need you to let me know which teams are lining up to offer.

You keep attributing things based on articles that aren’t quoting actual people who matter. Like Riley for the latest example of yours.


And if I’m on ignore why do you keep quoting me? Anyhow, good luck bud.
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Post#1710 » by Miami590 » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:01 am

jason bourne wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:No effing way are the Heat dangling Bam....like that is just uninformed bs.

And the Heat would be looking to try and sign him via free agency if they can trim some of their short contracts the following year. But in a trade scenario they could get it done without moving Adebayo.


Riley said ANY two Heat players is where I'm coming from. That could be Jimmy Buckets + Bam Adebayo are in play. If Ws can't get Giannis directly from the Bucks for Wiggins + 3 FRP picks, then they could help facilitate getting Giannis for the Heat is what I'm saying.

No way we’re trading Bam, Jimmy or Herro for Giannis when we can keep our core players and just sign him in free agency. It wouldn’t make any sense at all.
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Post#1711 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:33 am

Mylie10 wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:
Maybe. Would be friggen awesome if they pulled that off, but I doubt it.

I think the first thing Ainge is gonna try and do is to find a deal involving Hayward.


I don't know if there are any ways under the cap for the Warriors to get Hayward and pay him using the TPE. I suspect it's not possible.


Not Hayward, Smart.

My point was that if he can Ainge may want to try and move Hayward’s salary. Not to us per se.


I'd rather have Smart, but that wasn't my question.
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Post#1712 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Sep 9, 2020 1:58 am

Miami590 wrote:
jason bourne wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:No effing way are the Heat dangling Bam....like that is just uninformed bs.

And the Heat would be looking to try and sign him via free agency if they can trim some of their short contracts the following year. But in a trade scenario they could get it done without moving Adebayo.


Riley said ANY two Heat players is where I'm coming from. That could be Jimmy Buckets + Bam Adebayo are in play. If Ws can't get Giannis directly from the Bucks for Wiggins + 3 FRP picks, then they could help facilitate getting Giannis for the Heat is what I'm saying.

No way we’re trading Bam, Jimmy or Herro for Giannis when we can keep our core players and just sign him in free agency. It wouldn’t make any sense at all.


Bam....is a stiff offensively. The NBA world just watched him suck for an entire game...and only when Olynk came in did the Heat do something offensively.

He's yet another athlete that everyone freaks out about until he has to actually do something with the basket ball.

Don't want him.
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Post#1713 » by Miami590 » Wed Sep 9, 2020 2:17 am

ILOVEIT wrote:
Miami590 wrote:
jason bourne wrote:
Riley said ANY two Heat players is where I'm coming from. That could be Jimmy Buckets + Bam Adebayo are in play. If Ws can't get Giannis directly from the Bucks for Wiggins + 3 FRP picks, then they could help facilitate getting Giannis for the Heat is what I'm saying.

No way we’re trading Bam, Jimmy or Herro for Giannis when we can keep our core players and just sign him in free agency. It wouldn’t make any sense at all.


Bam....is a stiff offensively. The NBA world just watched him suck for an entire game...and only when Olynk came in did the Heat do something offensively.

He's yet another athlete that everyone freaks out about until he has to actually do something with the basket ball.

Don't want him.



We wouldn’t even be in the playoffs without Bam. You haven’t watched Bam if you think that he’s a stiff on offense. Him, Butler and Robinson didn’t play that well tonight but that’s why we have other players to pick up the slack.
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Post#1714 » by Miami590 » Wed Sep 9, 2020 2:26 am

If you guys like Olynyk we could do Nunn, K.O. and our #20 pick for the #2 pick. Would fit right into the TPE.
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Post#1715 » by Little Digger » Wed Sep 9, 2020 2:44 am

Lol at the idea of Pat Riley suddenly going brain dead and trading Bam13
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Post#1716 » by Little Digger » Wed Sep 9, 2020 2:45 am

Miami590 wrote:If you guys like Olynyk we could do Nunn, K.O. and our #20 pick for the #2 pick. Would fit right into the TPE.
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Post#1717 » by Coxy » Wed Sep 9, 2020 3:19 am

Miami590 wrote:If you guys like Olynyk we could do Nunn, K.O. and our #20 pick for the #2 pick. Would fit right into the TPE.


Just make it Adebeyo for the #2 pick and call it a day. Keep it easy.
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Post#1718 » by Miami590 » Wed Sep 9, 2020 3:41 am

Coxy wrote:
Miami590 wrote:If you guys like Olynyk we could do Nunn, K.O. and our #20 pick for the #2 pick. Would fit right into the TPE.


Just make it Adebeyo for the #2 pick and call it a day. Keep it easy.

But he’s a stiff offensively.

I just came here because I wanted to see if you guys would want Iggy back since Crowder has been playing well for us so far in the playoffs.
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Post#1719 » by Quazza » Wed Sep 9, 2020 3:42 am

ILOVEIT wrote:
Miami590 wrote:
jason bourne wrote:
Riley said ANY two Heat players is where I'm coming from. That could be Jimmy Buckets + Bam Adebayo are in play. If Ws can't get Giannis directly from the Bucks for Wiggins + 3 FRP picks, then they could help facilitate getting Giannis for the Heat is what I'm saying.

No way we’re trading Bam, Jimmy or Herro for Giannis when we can keep our core players and just sign him in free agency. It wouldn’t make any sense at all.


Bam....is a stiff offensively. The NBA world just watched him suck for an entire game...and only when Olynk came in did the Heat do something offensively.

He's yet another athlete that everyone freaks out about until he has to actually do something with the basket ball.

Don't want him.



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Post#1720 » by Coxy » Wed Sep 9, 2020 3:48 am

Miami590 wrote:
Coxy wrote:
Miami590 wrote:If you guys like Olynyk we could do Nunn, K.O. and our #20 pick for the #2 pick. Would fit right into the TPE.


Just make it Adebeyo for the #2 pick and call it a day. Keep it easy.

But he’s a stiff offensively.

I just came here because I wanted to see if you guys would want Iggy back since Crowder has been playing well for us so far in the playoffs.


Not sure of you heard, but we have an under the table agreement with Jae Crowder for the full MLE starting next season.

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