Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[51X3RF4N]

If you could pick 1 of the below scenarios which would you pick??

1.

Zach LaVine, Thad, Kornet and Arcidiacono

For Horford, JRich, OKC and 2nd rounds

Embiid/Kornet
Harris/Thad
Thybulle/Korkmaz
LaVine/Shake
Simmons/Arcidiacono

2.

Buddy Hield, Bjelica and Joseph

For Harris, JRich, OKC pick

Embiid/Horford
Bjelica/Scott
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Hield/Shake
Simmons/Joseph

3.

Rozier, Zeller

For Horford and JRich

Embiid/Zeller
Harris/Scott
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Rozier/Shake
Simmons/#21

[Arsenal]

If the Pacers are willing to trade Oladipo, that means I definitely don't want him. It would likely mean his injuries are chronic and his explosiveness is permanently diminished.

[Kobblehead]

I like the Charlotte deal the best. No draft capital going out and we take a chance on a guy with the skillset to be a legit playoff difference maker in Rozier.

[Kobblehead]

Rozier plus #21 (Skyler Mays, Tre Jones, etc) and all the sudden, we have multiple guards that can play defense and score off the dribble. Watch out for the Sixers come playoff time.

[youngcrev]

If you could pick 1 of the below scenarios which would you pick??

1.

Zach LaVine, Thad, Kornet and Arcidiacono

For Horford, JRich, OKC and 2nd rounds

Embiid/Kornet
Harris/Thad
Thybulle/Korkmaz
LaVine/Shake
Simmons/Arcidiacono

2.

Buddy Hield, Bjelica and Joseph

For Harris, JRich, OKC pick

Embiid/Horford
Bjelica/Scott
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Hield/Shake
Simmons/Joseph

3.

Rozier, Zeller

For Horford and JRich

Embiid/Zeller
Harris/Scott
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Rozier/Shake
Simmons/#21

Probably the LaVine one, but that Hield deal would be good too with the amount of money you're dumping.

Wouldn't do the Rozier deal. You'd be downgrading talent at both positions.

[skulky]

I like the Charlotte one best as well. I think we could pull it off without including Thybulle or 21. I think we’d have to send some combo of zhaire, Shake, 34/36.

I think rozier would be a good fit. But I also like those 2 contracts, having zeller at 15 million, and rozier at 18 for 2 years. Those mid tier contracts makes a lot of other trades much easier.

[skulky]

If you could pick 1 of the below scenarios which would you pick??

1.

Zach LaVine, Thad, Kornet and Arcidiacono

For Horford, JRich, OKC and 2nd rounds

Embiid/Kornet
Harris/Thad
Thybulle/Korkmaz
LaVine/Shake
Simmons/Arcidiacono

2.

Buddy Hield, Bjelica and Joseph

For Harris, JRich, OKC pick

Embiid/Horford
Bjelica/Scott
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Hield/Shake
Simmons/Joseph

3.

Rozier, Zeller

For Horford and JRich

Embiid/Zeller
Harris/Scott
Thybulle/Korkmaz
Rozier/Shake
Simmons/#21

I just don’t see Chicago wanting to move Zach LaVine and taking back Al Horford. Right now he’s probably their best player, has his issues, but has improved every year in the league, and is on a reasonable contract for 2 more seasons.

I mean I like the idea of getting him, but I don’t the sixers are getting into a Zach LaVine conversation with Chicago without embiid or Simmons on the table.

I’m also really interested in Lauri Markkanen as a buy low trade.

[Kobblehead]

Probably the LaVine one, but that Hield deal would be good too with the amount of money you're dumping.

Wouldn't do the Rozier deal. You'd be downgrading talent at both positions.

What if Lavine is a playoff flop as an creator, though? He's still a better athlete/shooter than he is dribbler. I think it's being too presumptive to think he can score off the dribble as the primary creator in a playoff setting. That's a lot of picks to lose for a guy that probably isn't an answer.

Don't get the appeal in the Sactown deal. Hield has an awful playoff skillset, IMO.

Even if Rozier is erratic and inconsistent, he still has a way better skillset than Josh Richardson. I'll bank on skillset since we already know Josh Richardson is a bad performer.

[youngcrev]

Probably the LaVine one, but that Hield deal would be good too with the amount of money you're dumping.

Wouldn't do the Rozier deal. You'd be downgrading talent at both positions.

What if Lavine is a playoff flop as an creator, though? He's still a better athlete/shooter than he is dribbler. I think it's being too presumptive to think he can score off the dribble as the primary creator in a playoff setting. That's a lot of picks to lose for a guy that probably isn't an answer.

Don't get the appeal in the Sactown deal. Hield has an awful playoff skillset, IMO.

Even if Rozier is erratic and inconsistent, he still has a way better skillset than Josh Richardson. I'll bank on skillset since we already know Josh Richardson is a bad performer.

I don't even like LaVine, but he's the only one of the 3 with a shot at being a primary perimeter creator, even if it's not a great shot. Worst case he's a 6th man of the year level guy that gives you some volume from 3, transition buckets, and some level of creation.

Buddy intrigues me as a DHO, 2 man game guy that could play off the interior creation from Ben and Jo, as well as be an elite off ball shooter off double teams. He's limited and has a bad contract, but he's elite at one of the biggest needs for a team with Ben and Jo even if he doesn't provide much on ball creation.

I don't think Rozier is nearly as good as either of those guys. He's a guy I'd reluctantly take on in a deal where I'm dumping unwanted salary rather than someone I'd specifically target. He'd probably be more useful to this team than Horford, and has a shorter, smaller deal. But I wouldn't look at him as a guy that's going to change much in the W/L column.

[skulky]

Probably the LaVine one, but that Hield deal would be good too with the amount of money you're dumping.

Wouldn't do the Rozier deal. You'd be downgrading talent at both positions.

What if Lavine is a playoff flop as an creator, though? He's still a better athlete/shooter than he is dribbler. I think it's being too presumptive to think he can score off the dribble as the primary creator in a playoff setting. That's a lot of picks to lose for a guy that probably isn't an answer.

Don't get the appeal in the Sactown deal. Hield has an awful playoff skillset, IMO.

Even if Rozier is erratic and inconsistent, he still has a way better skillset than Josh Richardson. I'll bank on skillset since we already know Josh Richardson is a bad performer.

I think you’re a little too pessimistic on LaVine’s scoring in the playoffs. He can be pretty inefficient at times, but can definitely get buckets. I question his defense and overall basketball iq. I don’t doubt he can score in the playoffs, but will he make mistakes when it matters and defend adequately enough.

I just don’t think we have the pieces to get him and his value to Chicago is probably borderline all star. I think similar to Bradley Beal the price is going to be sky high, but watching their games they’re both sieves on the defensive end.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'd certainly pick the Lavine deal first, but I highly doubt Chicago wants to move him. The Charlotte deal is probably the most likely in terms of keeping things realistic. I like the Sacramento deal too.

[youngcrev]

I'd take Dinwiddie over any of those guys btw

[Kobblehead]

I think you’re a little too pessimistic on LaVine’s scoring in the playoffs. He can be pretty inefficient at times, but can definitely get buckets. I question his defense and overall basketball iq. I don’t doubt he can score in the playoffs, but will he make mistakes when it matters and defend adequately enough.

I just don’t think we have the pieces to get him and his value to Chicago is probably borderline all star. I think similar to Bradley Beal the price is going to be sky high, but watching their games they’re both sieves on the defensive end.

I don't doubt that Lavine can score at volume if we run a ton of sets for him and let him bomb away. I'm strictly talking about on a possession by possession basis when we need to give the ball to a guy and tell him to score off the dribble against the opposing team's primary defender on a crucial possession. Lavine isn't really that kind of a player. He's much closer to a Booker/Beal type of scorer. Those guys can't be your lead initiator in a playoff setting. Just not talented enough with the ball in their hands.

[VDT]

Probably the LaVine one, but that Hield deal would be good too with the amount of money you're dumping.

Wouldn't do the Rozier deal. You'd be downgrading talent at both positions.

What if Lavine is a playoff flop as an creator, though? He's still a better athlete/shooter than he is dribbler. I think it's being too presumptive to think he can score off the dribble as the primary creator in a playoff setting. That's a lot of picks to lose for a guy that probably isn't an answer.

Don't get the appeal in the Sactown deal. Hield has an awful playoff skillset, IMO.

Even if Rozier is erratic and inconsistent, he still has a way better skillset than Josh Richardson. I'll bank on skillset since we already know Josh Richardson is a bad performer.

Richardson is ok for what he is, a 4th/5th option.

Creating off the dribble/running the offense should be the job of a max contract player if you want to contend. Rozier might have a more suitable skillset for that but he doesnt have the quality.

[Kobblehead]

My dream deal with Chicago would be Harris for Porter and Young.

We dump a financial burden and playoff zero for two guys that are defensive assets in the postseason. We'd still be without a creator, but we would have two major defensive playoff rotation pieces with excellent size.

Not many teams have multiple wing defenders 6'8" or taller. We'd be fielding three excellent ones in Simmons, Porter and Young. Our biggest competition in the Conference happens to have likesized scorers in that height range (Tatum and Brown).

[skulky]

I think you’re a little too pessimistic on LaVine’s scoring in the playoffs. He can be pretty inefficient at times, but can definitely get buckets. I question his defense and overall basketball iq. I don’t doubt he can score in the playoffs, but will he make mistakes when it matters and defend adequately enough.

I just don’t think we have the pieces to get him and his value to Chicago is probably borderline all star. I think similar to Bradley Beal the price is going to be sky high, but watching their games they’re both sieves on the defensive end.

I don't doubt that Lavine can score at volume if we run a ton of sets for him and let him bomb away. I'm strictly talking about on a possession by possession basis when we need to give the ball to a guy and tell him to score off the dribble against the opposing team's primary defender on a crucial possession. Lavine isn't really that kind of a player. He's much closer to a Booker/Beal type of scorer. Those guys can't be your lead initiator in a playoff setting. Just not talented enough with the ball in their hands.

Agree with all that but I’d remove booker. I think he is a player capable of that, I’d put him slightly ahead of Donovan Mitchell.

[Kobblehead]

Agree with all that but I’d remove booker. I think he is a player capable of that, I’d put him slightly ahead of Donovan Mitchell.

Interesting.

I think Mitchell is one of the toughest covers off the dribble in the league with his combination of handle/athleticism.

I don't think Booker is much more than a pseudo-creator that is better served having offense run for him and letting him lean more into his jumpshot and less into his below average handle.

[Kobblehead]

Richardson is ok for what he is, a 4th/5th option.

Creating off the dribble/running the offense should be the job of a max contract player if you want to contend. Rozier might have a more suitable skillset for that but he doesnt have the quality.

Right, but on a team that spent all their max contract money on ancillary players that can't score off the dribble, we have to get creative in finding ways to get guys that can score in the halfcourt. Get players in the sub-star range that possess that skillset and hope that they can approximate star play in the playoffs (even if only in short spurts).

The Eric Bledsoe, DeJounte Murray, Terry Rozier, Fred VanVleet types.

I would prefer Murray, but San Antonio is too smart to part ways with him. Rozier seems more obtainable, given the organization he's apart of.

[phillynative]

My dream deal with Chicago would be Harris for Porter and Young.

We dump a financial burden and playoff zero for two guys that are defensive assets in the postseason. We'd still be without a creator, but we would have two major defensive playoff rotation pieces with excellent size.

Not many teams have multiple wing defenders 6'8" or taller. We'd be fielding three excellent ones in Simmons, Porter and Young. Our biggest competition in the Conference happens to have likesized scorers in that height range (Tatum and Brown).

I like the idea because i believe this Tatum/Brown duo could be a pain in our side if we dont get some legit wing defenders. Im wondering how we would replace his scoring? We would still need uprgrades on the peremiter...

[VDT]

Richardson is ok for what he is, a 4th/5th option.

Creating off the dribble/running the offense should be the job of a max contract player if you want to contend. Rozier might have a more suitable skillset for that but he doesnt have the quality.

Right, but on a team that spent all their max contract money on ancillary players that can't score off the dribble, we have to get creative in finding ways to get guys that can score in the halfcourt. Get players in the sub-star range that possess that skillset and hope that they can approximate star play in the playoffs (even if only in short spurts).

The Eric Bledsoe, DeJounte Murray, Terry Rozier, Fred VanVleet types.

I would prefer Murray, but San Antonio is too smart to part ways with him. Rozier seems more obtainable, given the organization he's apart of.

Milwaukee has Bledsoe and he has been terrible for them. A problem with this kind of players is that they get overpaid because of their ppg and skillset. We did it with Harris, and he hasnt shown anything in the playoffs. Someone will do it with Van Fleet. You are not going to win a title with these players running the offense, most of them have low bb iq/ no passing vision and thus shouldnt be allowed to handle the ball anyway. If you can get Rozier with Horford fine, you dont lose anything anyway, but i dont want to send assets for Rozier.

The way i see it is that the two options are to either try to get Paul as a bandaid option or try to trade Simmons for a star with the necessary skill. set.