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Ideal PG for Thibodeau (and therefore the Knicks) (Westbrook thread)

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Re: Ideal PG for Thibodeau (and therefore the Knicks) 

Post#21 » by bleedblue3303 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:52 pm

WargamesX wrote:What is the Derrick rose type of PG.

Fast, small, and attacking.


So Dennis Smith Jr if and its a big if, he can get his head on straight.
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Post#22 » by RandlesCornrows » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:07 pm

Kevin Knox + NYK 2021(Top 10 Protection) + DAL 2021 (Top 8 protected)

Chris Paul — Frank Ntilikina
R.J. Barrett — Damyean Dotson
Issac Okoro — Tyler Bey
Julius Randle — ?????
Mitchell Robinson ????
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Post#23 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:09 pm

LibertyKnicks00 wrote:Kevin Knox + NYK 2021(Top 10 Protection) + DAL 2021 (Top 8 protected)

Chris Paul — Frank Ntilikina
R.J. Barrett — Damyean Dotson
Issac Okoro — Tyler Bey
Julius Randle — ?????
Mitchell Robinson ????


No thanks.

The 2021 draft is loaded, I'm not trading any picks in that draft no matter the protections.

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Post#24 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:22 pm

Brodie is my favorite active NBA player with Curry and Joker (soon RJ), as in players I root for the most.

But I hate him as a basketball player now. He holds his teams back with his combination of high usage rate and inefficiency. I believe that he was a winning player for some time (albeit with a ceiling), but those days are long gone. What bothers me the most is that his ego has not faded with his game, so he’s completely delusional now, kind of like a better pre-Portland old Melo.

Not to mention he’s a particularly bad fit alongside Mitch and RJ. What we need is a PG who can shoot and play both on and off the ball. The dream is a PG who can also pull up from 3, which would unlock Mitch’s rim runs. I do like Conley short-term, let’s see where this goes.
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Post#25 » by Besart19 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:23 pm

C.Paul / Ball
Booker / Frank
Barrett / Bullock
Carmelo / Knox
Mitch / Gibson
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Post#26 » by Montmorencie » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:25 pm

Lonzo Ball.
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Post#27 » by nedleeds » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:27 pm

I'M THE POINT GUARD NOW.

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Post#28 » by nedleeds » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:29 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
LibertyKnicks00 wrote:Kevin Knox + NYK 2021(Top 10 Protection) + DAL 2021 (Top 8 protected)

Chris Paul — Frank Ntilikina
R.J. Barrett — Damyean Dotson
Issac Okoro — Tyler Bey
Julius Randle — ?????
Mitchell Robinson ????


No thanks.

The 2021 draft is loaded, I'm not trading any picks in that draft no matter the protections.

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$100+ million, 36 years old, 2 cranky hamstrings and 40 minutes a night from Thibs to go 30-52 instead of 20-62 ... where do I sign up?
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Post#29 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:33 pm

nedleeds wrote:I'M THE POINT GUARD NOW.

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Post#30 » by Richard4444 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:54 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Ill take Brook


I hope you mean Brook Lopez....
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Post#32 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:09 pm

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WargamesX wrote:What is the Derrick rose type of PG.

Fast, small, and attacking.


So Dennis Smith Jr if and its a big if, he can get his head on straight.


He did not say Fast, small and attacking Bojangles chicken
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Post#33 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:09 pm

nedleeds wrote:I'M THE POINT GUARD NOW.

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"When the going gets tough, the groin gets broken"
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Post#34 » by nedleeds » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:22 am

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nedleeds wrote:I'M THE POINT GUARD NOW.

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"When the going gets tough, the groin gets broken"


Hopefully Frank is strengthening his groin in France right now. But seriously, Frank is Marcus Smart without the clown car. Certainly can be better than Dunn.

The PG position here is RJ until he can credibly shoot at an 8th grade level otherwise he can't play, that's just how it is.

PG - Frank's Groin
SG - ANYONE ON EARTH WHO CAN SHOOT IN THIS DRAFT OR DOTSON OR REGGIE BOO-LOCK
SF - RJ
PF - Knox and a bag of sand on his back
C - Mega Mitch

If this is opening night we should be thrilled beyond belief. It means this front office has a plan.

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Post#35 » by nedleeds » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:24 am

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Post#36 » by newyorker4ever » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:03 am

moocow007 wrote:So there's been a lot of talk about PG's that could potentially be a Knick next season. From drafting one, signing one or trading for one. All sorts of names from guys in college guys to established NBA players and even vets playing overseas right now. As far as current NBA players, talking about guys that are free agents or that have been rumored to be possible trade candidates as their team look to go in a different direction due to salary, franchise reset or fit. Of all the names, one then would start thinking who among them would likely fit best with this team and (probably more importantly) the head coach cause. The last thing you want is to add someone that may not be a best fit for the team and the coach.

So...based on all the names that have been brought up as possibly looking for a new home next season, the one guy that I consistently come back to is this guy right here (already mocked up in blue and orange):

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Rumors are right now that the Rockets MAY be looking to move Westbrook due to poor fit concerns with The Beard. The Knicks have been rumored to have been interested in Westbrook on numerous occasions in the past. Westbrook is a Derrick Rose like lead guard, probably about as close to Rose when Rose when in MVP shape as you can get. The Rockets did not exactly give up the farm to get Westbrook (2 future 1st round picks and 2 pick swap options but also got OKC to take CP3's giganto contract) so it's reasonable to justify that it would not take the farm for another team to acquire Westbrook. Westbrook would give the Knicks the best PG they've ever had since Clyde Frazier (even at this point in his career). And of course Westbrook can also help this team win as much as probably CP3 would.

Personally I think IF the Knicks do go with a big name, big dollar point guard (not that it would be my ideal scenario) maybe getting the Rockets on the phone and working out a deal where the Knicks acquire Westbrook. Westbrook is a shoot first point but he's also been top 3 in the league in assists per game for 4 of the last 5 years and is generally considered an excellent passer with great court vision. Westbrook is also about as intense a player as you can get so as an "example guy" of how you need to play he's it. And unlike CP3, Westbrook will still be in his prime for the length of his Super Max contract (also 3 years left on it). The contract likely will eat up a giant chunk of the team cap but what it does is it'll give the Knicks a legit lead guy while their young players develop that can make NY back from the dredges. Maybe not a championship team (due to the cap clogging contract that Westbrook) but unless the Knicks really believe they can be championship caliber in 3 years (let's be realistic here) maybe Westbrook would be your best bet get that can both perform and impact.

Trade for Westbrook and then use that 8th pick for a shooter (Vassell) or a defensive wing (Okoro). Then you have more freedom to move Randle for anyone that has best value instead of having to try to get back a PG in the deal.


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Post#37 » by knicks94 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:04 am

Let Westbrook stay in the West.It is painful enough seeing Houston be his sloppy second.
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Post#38 » by HEZI » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:39 am

I couldn't think of a worse way Mills could have screwed up the roster

Now I imagined something even worse. I give Leon Rose more benefit of the doubt on this one, he's gotta be smarter than that
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Post#39 » by god shammgod » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:46 am

thread didn't age well. and it was made today.
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Post#40 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:57 am

god shammgod wrote:thread didn't age well. and it was made today.


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