Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[ProcessDoctor]

These “playoff quality traits” are going to get us knocked out of the 1st round since we’d have no shot at HCA to begin with.

[ankle420breaker]

Horford to BKN
Allen and Conley to PHI
Prince, Temple, Scott, and Zhaire to UTA

Good scenario. Rare realistic deal where all three teams win.

I've always felt Brooklyn is a strong potential landing spot for Al. He'd honestly compliment KD, Irving, Levert, & Dinwiddie perfectly.

Conley and Utah were a clash all season do this gets them out of his contract while adding some veteran depth and a prospect.



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[youngcrev]

Don't both of those guys have broken jump shots?

Correct.

However, both can defend their position (and other positions, as well), put the ball on the floor and pass really well. Far more important playoff traits that hitting jumpers, in my eyes.

Maybe in general terms, I just don't think it's workable with Ben and Jo. If I'm the Warriors or Blazers I'd be looking at those guys though.

[stormi]

Horford to BKN
Allen and Conley to PHI
Prince, Temple, Scott, and Zhaire to UTA

It really makes sense from all threeangles.

Kyrie and KD wanted DJ in Brooklyn, they also in this trade receive a more modern center that can defend 5's and stretch the floor, thus rendering Allen a casualty.

Conley and Utah weren't a perfect compliment this season and his contract is insane, they also probably need to pay Gobert, they have Bojan coming back, maybe they plan to groom Mitchell to be the primary ball handler. They escape from that extremely loaded contract.

Philly need a backup center, need a ball handler, don't need Al.

I like that we maintain our draft capital. I'm not crazy on either of those two players we're bringing in but it really does make sense from all three parties and I wouldn't be upset if something like that went down.

[TTP]

I'd do whatever it took to get the framework of a Horford for CP3 trade going, even if it took another team or two to get a deal done. I don't think a single player we could reasonably bring in increases our championship equity more than CP3 over the next couple years, and it's important to capitalize on the immediate future with Embiid's long-term status uncertain both with his body and with potential trade demands.

CP3 just had another excellent season and I'm going to bet on one of the greatest point guards of all time to continue to play at a high level even at his age - he's incredibly cerebral and would just be exactly what we need. He'd solve our turnover issues and our lack of creation issues. He spaces excellently and still defends well. Load manage the hell out of him to preserve his health if you need to.

I have no idea what the cost would be, but I'm guessing Matisse and/or some future 1sts. If we're serious about being a contender, we have to pay it to get out of this ridiculous hole that we shouldn't be in. It's going to be tricky to find a third team willing to take on Horford though.

Then try to run Simmons in the Blake role and replicate some lob city.

[skulky]

Horford to BKN
Allen and Conley to PHI
Prince, Temple, Scott, and Zhaire to UTA

It really makes sense from all threeangles.

Kyrie and KD wanted DJ in Brooklyn, they also in this trade receive a more modern center that can defend 5's and stretch the floor, thus rendering Allen a casualty.

Conley and Utah weren't a perfect compliment this season and his contract is insane, they also probably need to pay Gobert, they have Bojan coming back, maybe they plant to groom Mitchell to be the primary ballhandler. They escape from that extremely loaded contract.

Philly need a backup center, need a ball handler, don't need Al.

I like that we maintain our draft capital. I'm not crazy on either of those two players we're bringing in but it really does make sense from all three parties and I wouldn't be upset if something like that went down.

I don’t hate it, but again it’s investing heavily in the center position in 2020. Jarret Allen is solid do the dirty work, defensive minded center. He’s about to be a rfa. Value wise it’s good, I’d be looking to move Jarrett Allen though.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I would be all about the three way deal with Utah and Brooklyn. Some really good ideas on here from some of you. This one where we get Conley and Allen while maintaining our draft picks is a dream come true.

[youngcrev]

I'd do whatever it took to get the framework of a Horford for CP3 trade going, even if it took another team or two to get a deal done. I don't think a single player we could reasonably bring in increases our championship equity more than CP3 over the next couple years, and it's important to capitalize on the immediate future with Embiid's long-term status uncertain both with his body and with potential trade demands.

CP3 just had another excellent season and I'm going to bet on one of the greatest point guards of all time to continue to play at a high level even at his age - he's incredibly cerebral and would just be exactly what we need. He'd solve our turnover issues and our lack of creation issues. He spaces excellently and still defends well. Load manage the hell out of him to preserve his health if you need to.

I have no idea what the cost would be, but I'm guessing Matisse and/or some future 1sts. If we're serious about being a contender, we have to pay it to get out of this ridiculous hole that we shouldn't be in. It's going to be tricky to find a third team willing to take on Horford though.

Then try to run Simmons in the Blake role and replicate some lob city.

What if they say we'll give you Paul, but we want Tobias, Matisse, and your 2022 1st round pick with no protection on it (I think that's the first year high school players are projected to be able to come out). Would you make that deal?

[Kobblehead]

Kobble trying to build the 2018 Heat that got 4-1'd by Redick, Belinelli and Ersan running around in circles

Woah, woah, woah. Gordon Dragic and Kelly Olynik are your guys, not mine.

[Kobblehead]

What do you think about buying low on Kevin Knox? He obviously has the physical tools, and definitely had some defensive improvement even on such a broken defensive team.

I never liked Knox, tbh. I don't think he has any handle and I don't like him defensively. If we're going to buy low on Knicks, I rather have Smokes for his defensive ability or hope to hit a homerun on Dennis Smith. Smith can defend the point of attack really well and he can obviously score off the dribble in his sleep. If he can get his head screwed on right and work on his jumper, he's a two-way playoff beast in the same vein as Kyle Lowry.

[stormi]

Kobble trying to build the 2018 Heat that got 4-1'd by Redick, Belinelli and Ersan running around in circles

Woah, woah, woah. Gordon Dragic and Kelly Olynik are your guys, not mine.

Olynyk is absolutely not my guy... Dragic, hey...

[Kobblehead]

These “playoff quality traits” are going to get us knocked out of the 1st round since we’d have no shot at HCA to begin with.

And you think acquiring trade targets like Buddy Hield won't?

[ProcessDoctor]

These “playoff quality traits” are going to get us knocked out of the 1st round since we’d have no shot at HCA to begin with.

And you think acquiring trade targets like Buddy Hield won't?

All of our teams with Redick on them, with or without Butler, were better than the product we put out last season. I’ll take my chance with a sharpshooter than MORE guards/forwards who can’t shoot and are largely incompetent on offense. Have we not learned our lesson with that yet?

[Kobblehead]

Okay, it's more fun to watch, but it's still not a solution to the end goal.

You need to be able to put the ball on the floor and score off the dribble to go deep in the playoffs. Buddy Hield can't score off the dribble and he can't play defense. He's offering nothing by way of the two most important playoff traits so why are we even wasting our time?

[skulky]

What do you think about buying low on Kevin Knox? He obviously has the physical tools, and definitely had some defensive improvement even on such a broken defensive team.

I never liked Knox, tbh. I don't think he has any handle and I don't like him defensively. If we're going to buy low on Knicks, I rather have Smokes for his defensive ability or hope to hit a homerun on Dennis Smith. Smith can defend the point of attack really well and he can obviously score off the dribble in his sleep. If he can get his head screwed on right and work on his jumper, he's a two-way playoff beast in the same vein as Kyle Lowry.

Oh for sure, it was such a knicks pick, he should have been out of lottery, and definitely after his teammate sga.

I don’t know about Dennis Smith jr, he’s been so bad in the league, and I don’t see the Lowry comparison. His shooting numbers are scary bad. He’s shooting 64.7% from the line for his career and 31 from 3. With bad offensive efficiency and lots of injuries.
Maybe if it’s a Mike Scott swap since he’s only on the hook for next year and an option for year after. I just don’t think he’s shown that he really belongs in the league.

[TTP]

I'd do whatever it took to get the framework of a Horford for CP3 trade going, even if it took another team or two to get a deal done. I don't think a single player we could reasonably bring in increases our championship equity more than CP3 over the next couple years, and it's important to capitalize on the immediate future with Embiid's long-term status uncertain both with his body and with potential trade demands.

CP3 just had another excellent season and I'm going to bet on one of the greatest point guards of all time to continue to play at a high level even at his age - he's incredibly cerebral and would just be exactly what we need. He'd solve our turnover issues and our lack of creation issues. He spaces excellently and still defends well. Load manage the hell out of him to preserve his health if you need to.

I have no idea what the cost would be, but I'm guessing Matisse and/or some future 1sts. If we're serious about being a contender, we have to pay it to get out of this ridiculous hole that we shouldn't be in. It's going to be tricky to find a third team willing to take on Horford though.

Then try to run Simmons in the Blake role and replicate some lob city.

What if they say we'll give you Paul, but we want Tobias, Matisse, and your 2022 1st round pick with no protection on it (I think that's the first year high school players are projected to be able to come out). Would you make that deal?

Probably but I’d explain the plan to Embiid and Simmons first to see if they’re on board. Ideally would rather move Horford though. I’d also try to get the ownership on board with buying an early 2nd or two if we move any 1sts.

[ProcessDoctor]

Okay, it's more fun to watch, but it's still not a solution to the end goal.

You need to be able to put the ball on the floor and score off the dribble to go deep in the playoffs. Buddy Hield can't score off the dribble and he can't play defense. He's offering nothing by way of the two most important playoff traits so why are we even wasting our time?

It's about how productive a lineup including Simmons and Embiid is. Our top 3-man lineup in the last 3 years was Simmons-Embiid-Redick. Shot creation and defense are important, but you can't neglect shooting, especially considering who our cornerstones are. It also helps they are both All-NBA defensive talents (as is Thybulle IMO).

Just because you acquire a shooter, it doesn't mean you can't also acquire a half-court stud who can create shots for themselves and others. Ideally, you have both. Things don't have to be so black and white.

[ProcessDoctor]

CHI out: Porter, Lauri
CHI in: Harris, 2022 PHI 1st (lotto protected)

NOP out: Holiday
NOP in: Richardson, Lauri, Smith, #21

PHI out: Harris, Richardson, Smith, #21, 2022 1st (lotto protected)
PHI in: Holiday, Porter


Holiday(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(28)/Korkmaz(16)/Milton(4)
Porter(24)/MLE(24)
Simmons(34)/Horford(10)/Porter(4)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)


Holiday/Milton/Micic
Thybulle/Korkmaz/#36
Porter/MLE/#49
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/Horford/Pelle

Edit: Replaced 2nds with 2022 1st

[youngcrev]

Chicago isn't doing that deal

[ProcessDoctor]

I'm banking on the Eversley connection lol. He seems to really value Tobias. Chicago seems to not be high on Lauri. I also think they're going to try and win now with LaVine prior to considering any trade offers for him.