2019-20 NBA Season Discussion

[BladeDaywalker]

Just LOL at the people who were defending Doc earlier in this thread. He's about to blow his third 3-1 lead. Worst coach in sports.

Honestly, if the Clippers somehow win the championship this year, it feel like it will be in spite of Doc.

Even when he won that title in 2008, it was shocking watching the Hawks and Cavs take the Celtics to 7 games each.

The Hawks were a 37-45 win team and the Cavs had a record of 45-37.

It was surreal watching a 66 win team struggle so much against inferior competition when they should have beaten both of those teams in 5 games at the most.

I knew about his Magic team blowing a 3-1 lead against the Pistons but when you have a team as stacked as the 2007-2008 Celtics and you struggle that much to reach the final against teams that were far inferior to you, there should be serious questions about your coaching ability.

I always felt like Doc need way more talent than the other team in order to successfully win.

He doesn't appear to be a coach who make major adjustments pregame or in-game no matter what is going on.

[GSP]

Are pretty much most of us in agreement that the East teams don’t stand much chance against either Lakers or Clippers?

Yup. Lakers/Clips is obviously the real finals

Lakers/Clips isn't happening thanks to Doc.

Relax you guys arent losing to the Nuggets

[MartinToVaught]

Yup. Lakers/Clips is obviously the real finals

Lakers/Clips isn't happening thanks to Doc.

Relax you guys arent losing to the Nuggets

I remember people saying that about the Rockets a few years ago. I'll believe this franchise can close out a second-round series when I see it. They already failed miserably tonight.

[TheGOATRises007]

Doc Rivers is a tragic head coach.

Clippers should have easily won that game.

He managed it horribly.

[TheGOATRises007]

Raptors beat themselves at the end.

Still an admirable season from them. They went down fighting. Siakam was just too poor to overcome.

Heat-Celtics should be great.

[kayess]

It's funny - this is the exact sort of stuff lots of us expected if ever LeBron would do well against the West. Smarter fans were saying "well if he was on the West he'd play poorer defenses and he'd shred them" in response to the "East is weak" bull. Now that he's doing that, it's not very impressive.

Houston were seen as a terrible matchup for the Lakers because of their 3pt shooting (Lakers were last in that category I think? And I mean, Rockets have been shooting ~40% the last 3 games on huge volume). Now that the Lakers' D has stepped up and made the Rockets look like chumps, it's not very impressive.

This revisionism will always, always follow LeBron, thanks to his many, many haters.

FWIW - I actually agree in spirit that the Lakers haven't been TRULY tested. But to say it's not impressive just reeks of finding holes where there are none. Can only play what's in front of you, and he's proven time and again that he exceeds expectations even then. That's not "not very impressive" if you've been doing it for a decade plus.

We're discussing the Lakers not LeBron James. Take the stan goggles off. No one has mentioned LeBron once in this whole conversation we're talking about who we think is going to win it all. If anyone said LeBron hasn't been very impressive quote that, if not log off.

Dude, I honestly can't believe you'd straight up lie just like that. What for?

You said - "Lakers haven't been very impressive", then the next paragraph goes "Lebron and AD are amazing, BUT..." and you're going to say no one has mentioned LeBron ONCE in this whole conversation? Sure you didn't explicitly say it - but read through your post again objectively and tell us again if it wasn't implied at all.

You log off.

[kayess]

Are pretty much most of us in agreement that the East teams don’t stand much chance against either Lakers or Clippers?

The Celtics look legit? And they'll get Hayward back + will have a huge coaching edge in the Finals?

[MyUniBroDavis]

It's funny - this is the exact sort of stuff lots of us expected if ever LeBron would do well against the West. Smarter fans were saying "well if he was on the West he'd play poorer defenses and he'd shred them" in response to the "East is weak" bull. Now that he's doing that, it's not very impressive.

Houston were seen as a terrible matchup for the Lakers because of their 3pt shooting (Lakers were last in that category I think? And I mean, Rockets have been shooting ~40% the last 3 games on huge volume). Now that the Lakers' D has stepped up and made the Rockets look like chumps, it's not very impressive.

This revisionism will always, always follow LeBron, thanks to his many, many haters.

FWIW - I actually agree in spirit that the Lakers haven't been TRULY tested. But to say it's not impressive just reeks of finding holes where there are none. Can only play what's in front of you, and he's proven time and again that he exceeds expectations even then. That's not "not very impressive" if you've been doing it for a decade plus.

We're discussing the Lakers not LeBron James. Take the stan goggles off. No one has mentioned LeBron once in this whole conversation we're talking about who we think is going to win it all. If anyone said LeBron hasn't been very impressive quote that, if not log off.

Dude, I honestly can't believe you'd straight up lie just like that. What for?

You said - "Lakers haven't been very impressive", then the next paragraph goes "Lebron and AD are amazing, BUT..." and you're going to say no one has mentioned LeBron ONCE in this whole conversation? Sure you didn't explicitly say it - but read through your post again objectively and tell us again if it wasn't implied at all.

You log off.

he didnt say anything about lebron not being impressive he praised him lmfao

i dont think the lakers look unbeatable but I think theyre the favorites for sure, and that portland and houstan are pretty good first and second round teams considering theyre a first seed

[E-Balla]

It's funny - this is the exact sort of stuff lots of us expected if ever LeBron would do well against the West. Smarter fans were saying "well if he was on the West he'd play poorer defenses and he'd shred them" in response to the "East is weak" bull. Now that he's doing that, it's not very impressive.

Houston were seen as a terrible matchup for the Lakers because of their 3pt shooting (Lakers were last in that category I think? And I mean, Rockets have been shooting ~40% the last 3 games on huge volume). Now that the Lakers' D has stepped up and made the Rockets look like chumps, it's not very impressive.

This revisionism will always, always follow LeBron, thanks to his many, many haters.

FWIW - I actually agree in spirit that the Lakers haven't been TRULY tested. But to say it's not impressive just reeks of finding holes where there are none. Can only play what's in front of you, and he's proven time and again that he exceeds expectations even then. That's not "not very impressive" if you've been doing it for a decade plus.

We're discussing the Lakers not LeBron James. Take the stan goggles off. No one has mentioned LeBron once in this whole conversation we're talking about who we think is going to win it all. If anyone said LeBron hasn't been very impressive quote that, if not log off.

Dude, I honestly can't believe you'd straight up lie just like that. What for?

You said - "Lakers haven't been very impressive", then the next paragraph goes "Lebron and AD are amazing, BUT..." and you're going to say no one has mentioned LeBron ONCE in this whole conversation? Sure you didn't explicitly say it - but read through your post again objectively and tell us again if it wasn't implied at all.

You log off.

You're right my bad I did mention LeBron James... Positively to say he's been amazing.

Get off my dick, I said I'm worried about the Lakers, not that AD and LeBron aren't amazing. What's implied by my statement is that I think LeBron and AD are amazing but I'm not high on THE LAKERS as A WHOLE TEAM. **** weirdo.

[MisterHibachi]

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This feels like a familiar script.

[70sFan]

Is it fair to say that this is the end of Morey's ball?

[Dupp]

Is it fair to say that this is the end of Morey's ball?

It can work with the right roster but this team kind of sucks. Westbrook isn’t very good and a terrible fit and paid near 50 mil per.

[70sFan]

Is it fair to say that this is the end of Morey's ball?

It can work with the right roster but this team kind of sucks. Westbrook isn’t very good and a terrible fit and paid near 50 mil per.

This team is poorly constructed offensively, but you can't find much better roster on defense to make it work. They overachieved if anything to me, because they wouldn't be nearly as good without Covington, Gordon and Tucker on defense and Harden carried them offensively quite heavily.

[MisterHibachi]

Wonder if the Raptors can swing a trade for Harden. That seems like the perfect fit for both.

[Dupp]

I don’t see Houston trading harden so they’re probably stuck in this limbo

[TheGOATRises007]

Wonder if the Raptors can swing a trade for Harden. That seems like the perfect fit for both.

Why would the Rockets trade Harden?

[toodles23]

Wonder if the Raptors can swing a trade for Harden. That seems like the perfect fit for both.

Why would the Rockets trade Harden?

Very little chance they actually do, but if the Rockets feel like they have no avenues for improvement and are going to spend the next few years with Harden getting the 6th seed and losing in the first round, trading Harden now for a bunch of picks and young players while he still has a ton of value might be a good move. They have a cheap owner who will not pay the luxury tax under any circumstance, and of course Westbrook is completely untradeable with that contract.

[TheGOATRises007]

Wonder if the Raptors can swing a trade for Harden. That seems like the perfect fit for both.

Why would the Rockets trade Harden?

Very little chance they actually do, but if the Rockets feel like they have no avenues for improvement and are going to spend the next few years with Harden getting the 6th seed and losing in the first round, trading Harden now for a bunch of picks and young players while he still has a ton of value might be a good move. They have a cheap owner who will not pay the luxury tax under any circumstance, and of course Westbrook is completely untradeable with that contract.

Do the Raptors even have an enticing offer?

I'd definitely trade Siakam if I was them, but I'm not sure teams are as high on him as they were a year ago.

[toodles23]

Do the Raptors even have an enticing offer?

I'd definitely trade Siakam if I was them, but I'm not sure teams are as high on him as they were a year ago.

Somebody who's more of a trade nerd than I am could give a better answer but I doubt it. I'd want a lot more than Siakam and some picks likely to fall later in the first round for Harden.

[GSP]

Are pretty much most of us in agreement that the East teams don’t stand much chance against either Lakers or Clippers?

The Celtics look legit? And they'll get Hayward back + will have a huge coaching edge in the Finals?

Slow down. We're most likely not beating Miami and coaching won't mean **** against Lebron and Ad being the 2 best playoff performers in the league right now plus Vogel has been really good too. Lakers depth is underrated too and better than ours

Only thing that can stop a Lakers title is Kawhi being the best player on the floor in their series plus Playoff P .hitting shots