2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[Rapsfan07]

I hope you mean Jrue and Melli for Ibaka, McCaw and #59? Zion can learn patience from Ibaka.

Idk who Melli is but I think it make decent sense. NOLA needs a C since Favors is expiring this summer.

Hmmm, what about uniting the Holiday brothers in Indiana?

Indiana gets: Jrue and #59

New Orleans gets: Ibaka and #54

Toronto gets: Oladipo

June 27, 2013: Drafted by the Orlando Magic in the 1st round (2nd pick) of the 2013 NBA Draft.

June 23, 2016: Traded by the Orlando Magic with Ersan İlyasova and Domantas Sabonis to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Serge Ibaka.

October 31, 2016: Signed a multi-year contract with the Oklahoma City Thunder

July 6, 2017: Traded by the Oklahoma City Thunder with Domantas Sabonis to the Indiana Pacers for Paul George.

Fitting Serge gets traded again for Oladipo.

I don't want Jrue going to Indiana at all.

[MisterHibachi]

If Houston decides to move on from Harden, I'd look to try to acquire him, I think he'd work in our system. We have the elite defensive schemes to hide his defensive deficiencies and our offense is pretty much catered to a player like him. Harden would look amazing in Vanvleet's role on offense.

Raptors literally just need any elite isolation scorer to be title contenders again. And Harden showed this year he's willing to try on defense when he sets his mind to it. I think he would be a perfect addition. Hard to root for him but he's pretty good at basketball and the Raptors are strong where he's weak.

[MessiahUjiri]

Heres a blockbuster GSW-PHI-TOR deal from the Trade Board that may be interesting:


- The warriors need to shore up their front court and their defense.

- The sixers badly need a veteran point guard, and they have a glut at C, with Horford behind Embiid.

- The raptors are no longer championship contenders, and are going to pay Fred VanVleet at point guard. Lowry is a FA next year.

The trade:

GSW incoming: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 21st pick (via PHI)
PHI incoming: Kyle Lowry, 2020 29th pick (via TOR)
TOR incoming: Wiggins, 2020 2nd pick (via GSW)


We get to send Kyle home to Philly for a chance to win a championship. With the second pick, we likely draft either one of Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball. We start the core towards a future.


Fred / Edwards or Ball / Anunoby / Siakam / Horford

Bench: Norm, Ibaka (1 yr overpay deal), T Davis, Thomas, Boucher

Next year, Norm and Ibaka expire. We’re likely not gonna win the championship in the coming season, but we’re 2nd round playoffs material. The idea is to build a solid core with a high ceiling, along with flexibility for the future.

I'd trade down from 2 after acquiring the pick, but overall it's decent.

With the 2nd overall pick, we would be set from a position of strength. I agree that on draft night Masai probably listens to calls on the pick. If nothing blows your mind, you still walk out with either Anthony Edwards or LaMelo Ball. I like Edwards more, but he might go 1st overall. These guys both look like all stars.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Heres a blockbuster GSW-PHI-TOR deal from the Trade Board that may be interesting:


- The warriors need to shore up their front court and their defense.

- The sixers badly need a veteran point guard, and they have a glut at C, with Horford behind Embiid.

- The raptors are no longer championship contenders, and are going to pay Fred VanVleet at point guard. Lowry is a FA next year.

The trade:

GSW incoming: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 21st pick (via PHI)
PHI incoming: Kyle Lowry, 2020 29th pick (via TOR)
TOR incoming: Wiggins, 2020 2nd pick (via GSW)


We get to send Kyle home to Philly for a chance to win a championship. With the second pick, we likely draft either one of Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball. We start the core towards a future.


Fred / Edwards or Ball / Anunoby / Siakam / Horford

Bench: Norm, Ibaka (1 yr overpay deal), T Davis, Thomas, Boucher

Next year, Norm and Ibaka expire. We’re likely not gonna win the championship in the coming season, but we’re 2nd round playoffs material. The idea is to build a solid core with a high ceiling, along with flexibility for the future.

philly makes out too well in this and gsw not well enough. they give up the 2nd pick and they get thybulle and late first?

[MessiahUjiri]

Heres a blockbuster GSW-PHI-TOR deal from the Trade Board that may be interesting:


- The warriors need to shore up their front court and their defense.

- The sixers badly need a veteran point guard, and they have a glut at C, with Horford behind Embiid.

- The raptors are no longer championship contenders, and are going to pay Fred VanVleet at point guard. Lowry is a FA next year.

The trade:

GSW incoming: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 21st pick (via PHI)
PHI incoming: Kyle Lowry, 2020 29th pick (via TOR)
TOR incoming: Wiggins, 2020 2nd pick (via GSW)


We get to send Kyle home to Philly for a chance to win a championship. With the second pick, we likely draft either one of Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball. We start the core towards a future.


Fred / Edwards or Ball / Anunoby / Siakam / Horford

Bench: Norm, Ibaka (1 yr overpay deal), T Davis, Thomas, Boucher

Next year, Norm and Ibaka expire. We’re likely not gonna win the championship in the coming season, but we’re 2nd round playoffs material. The idea is to build a solid core with a high ceiling, along with flexibility for the future.

philly makes out too well in this and gsw not well enough. they give up the 2nd pick and they get thybulle and late first?

It’s a fair point - Philly can likely add some incentives. They have a few high 2nd rounders this year that could be added. Possibly a future swap.

As a rookie, Thybulle has already shown borderline All NBA defense. On the warriors, he fills in that Iguodala gap. Horford fits well at their Center with passing, 3 and D, and his contract is a year less and cheaper than Wiggins. There’s luxury tax savings in this.

[Raptors_128]

I think Miami is going to make a play for DeMar. If they add DeMar, I expect Kyle to want to go there as well.

Kyle/DeMar/Jimmy/Robinson/Bam.

[gerrit4]

If Houston decides to move on from Harden, I'd look to try to acquire him, I think he'd work in our system. We have the elite defensive schemes to hide his defensive deficiencies and our offense is pretty much catered to a player like him. Harden would look amazing in Vanvleet's role on offense.

Isn't Harden the star who always plays much worse than reg season? Fans are chewing up Siakam for this run, Harden would be even worse.

I love Pascal, but there's no comparison here. This year Harden is averaging nearly 30ppg on 46%/36% shooting. In Houston, he's been around 27ppg on 41% shooting. Pascal just had a playoffs where he averaged 17ppg on 40%/19%.

[jimmy keys]

Heres a blockbuster GSW-PHI-TOR deal from the Trade Board that may be interesting:


- The warriors need to shore up their front court and their defense.

- The sixers badly need a veteran point guard, and they have a glut at C, with Horford behind Embiid.

- The raptors are no longer championship contenders, and are going to pay Fred VanVleet at point guard. Lowry is a FA next year.

The trade:

GSW incoming: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 21st pick (via PHI)
PHI incoming: Kyle Lowry, 2020 29th pick (via TOR)
TOR incoming: Wiggins, 2020 2nd pick (via GSW)


We get to send Kyle home to Philly for a chance to win a championship. With the second pick, we likely draft either one of Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball. We start the core towards a future.


Fred / Edwards or Ball / Anunoby / Siakam / Horford

Bench: Norm, Ibaka (1 yr overpay deal), T Davis, Thomas, Boucher

Next year, Norm and Ibaka expire. We’re likely not gonna win the championship in the coming season, but we’re 2nd round playoffs material. The idea is to build a solid core with a high ceiling, along with flexibility for the future.

I'd trade down from 2 after acquiring the pick, but overall it's decent.

With the 2nd overall pick, we would be set from a position of strength. I agree that on draft night Masai probably listens to calls on the pick. If nothing blows your mind, you still walk out with either Anthony Edwards or LaMelo Ball. I like Edwards more, but he might go 1st overall. These guys both look like all stars.

I'm not a big fan of either. I think I might even prefer the MIN 2021 pick.

[Raptorfan2012]

Heres something to consider if Fred leaves; sign and trade Norm for Bogdan Bogdonovic. Bogdan was Divac’s guy, but since Divac is gone, the Kings may not want to pay too much since they already paid Buddy and have to pay Fox soon. Give Bogdan between $13-15 mill a year, and flip Norm over to them.

Bogdan will be a great SG for us; esp if we want to lure Giannis over. Kings may want a winner like Norm to mentor their young guys, and Norm goes home to Cali.

[YelloC]

If none of the desired bigs are there when we pick 29th, I would go Combo guard or 3D wing and see if we could snag Mfiondu Kabengele/MK Ultra from the Clippers.
I know he showed next to nothing but he has the Canadian connection and could improve in our system.

[TheAlchemist]

Besides this whole Giannis thing, I really would love to see us swing a trade with Indiana. And no, it wouldn't include Oladipo or Sabonnis.

I would LOVE to grab Myles Turner and Bubble Superstar for TJ warren.

In fact, I think if we sign Giannis, these are the two guys to get to put around him. If not, I wonder what it would take to add these two guys?

Lowry
OG
TJ Warren
Siakam
Myles Turner

To me, that's a MUCH better team than the one we have this year. But frankly, Pacers starting price would be OG + Powell or Siakam.

In the case of Giannis here, I'd flip Siakam for Sabonis + TJ Warren.

[TD2FutureStar]

Vet min for Gasol or let him walk. Fred sign to 20M max or let him walk. Re-up Ibaka for $20M and start him at C. Re-up OG to something decent or let him prove his worth. Look at some blockbuster trades involving Siakam . Then sign or trade some vets to fill the holes. Go for it again next year

[Mattatron]

If Houston decides to move on from Harden, I'd look to try to acquire him, I think he'd work in our system. We have the elite defensive schemes to hide his defensive deficiencies and our offense is pretty much catered to a player like him. Harden would look amazing in Vanvleet's role on offense.

Raptors literally just need any elite isolation scorer to be title contenders again. And Harden showed this year he's willing to try on defense when he sets his mind to it. I think he would be a perfect addition. Hard to root for him but he's pretty good at basketball and the Raptors are strong where he's weak.

Harden is a underrated Defender. He's one of the best post Defender. Having Lowry and Harden would be the a abnormal backcourt..... Imagine the bootys all over the court. Sexiest backcourt in the league.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Lowry/Terry/McCaw
VanVleet/Davis/Thomas
Anunoby/Watson/Johnson
Siakam/Hernangomez/Brissett
Baynes/Boucher/Hernandez

Re-sign Frederick, trade Powell + 29 to move up for Tyrell Terry, sign Baynes and Juan Hernangomez, and call it an offseason.

I'll say though, if you are drafting Terry, you likely view him as the replacement to VanVleet in the starting lineup, so not sure you re-sign VanVleet in this case.

[alpngso]

Lowry/Terry/McCaw
VanVleet/Davis/Thomas
Anunoby/Watson/Johnson
Siakam/Hernangomez/Brissett
Baynes/Boucher/Hernandez

Re-sign Frederick, trade Powell + 29 to move up for Tyrell Terry, sign Baynes and Juan Hernangomez, and call it an offseason.

I'll say though, if you are drafting Terry, you likely view him as the replacement to VanVleet in the starting lineup, so not sure you re-sign VanVleet in this case.

That is a terrible trade. Name me a player who was relevant in the league weighing in at 160 lbs

[Mattatron]

If Freddy leaves I really would like to have Monte Morris from the Nuggets but he's still under contract until 2021. But he's a guy I really like as a back up. Good role player and affordable

[WeTheNorth123]

Heres a blockbuster GSW-PHI-TOR deal from the Trade Board that may be interesting:


- The warriors need to shore up their front court and their defense.

- The sixers badly need a veteran point guard, and they have a glut at C, with Horford behind Embiid.

- The raptors are no longer championship contenders, and are going to pay Fred VanVleet at point guard. Lowry is a FA next year.

The trade:

GSW incoming: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 21st pick (via PHI)
PHI incoming: Kyle Lowry, 2020 29th pick (via TOR)
TOR incoming: Wiggins, 2020 2nd pick (via GSW)


We get to send Kyle home to Philly for a chance to win a championship. With the second pick, we likely draft either one of Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball. We start the core towards a future.


Fred / Edwards or Ball / Anunoby / Siakam / Horford

Bench: Norm, Ibaka (1 yr overpay deal), T Davis, Thomas, Boucher

Next year, Norm and Ibaka expire. We’re likely not gonna win the championship in the coming season, but we’re 2nd round playoffs material. The idea is to build a solid core with a high ceiling, along with flexibility for the future.

Honestly.....i would do this in a heartbeat.....it's also help Kyle in that he is going to a winning team + hometown.

I'm gonna miss lowry's leadership in the locker room but i would do this trade to inhance our overall talent

[Zeno]

Heres a blockbuster GSW-PHI-TOR deal from the Trade Board that may be interesting:


- The warriors need to shore up their front court and their defense.

- The sixers badly need a veteran point guard, and they have a glut at C, with Horford behind Embiid.

- The raptors are no longer championship contenders, and are going to pay Fred VanVleet at point guard. Lowry is a FA next year.

The trade:

GSW incoming: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 21st pick (via PHI)
PHI incoming: Kyle Lowry, 2020 29th pick (via TOR)
TOR incoming: Wiggins, 2020 2nd pick (via GSW)


We get to send Kyle home to Philly for a chance to win a championship. With the second pick, we likely draft either one of Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball. We start the core towards a future.


Fred / Edwards or Ball / Anunoby / Siakam / Horford

Bench: Norm, Ibaka (1 yr overpay deal), T Davis, Thomas, Boucher

Next year, Norm and Ibaka expire. We’re likely not gonna win the championship in the coming season, but we’re 2nd round playoffs material. The idea is to build a solid core with a high ceiling, along with flexibility for the future.

Honestly.....i would do this in a heartbeat.....it's also help Kyle in that he is going to a winning team + hometown.

I'm gonna miss lowry's leadership in the locker room but i would do this trade to inhance our overall talent

Wiggins is a negative asset with the contract. If he was an expiring then I’d consider it. But Lowry’s value is really high right now and taking on money past next year takes us out of 2021 free agency. Unless the Raps think they can turn Wiggins into a value tradeable contract this is a bad trade for Toronto. I’d want Shake Milton and not to give up the 29th pick plus a load of Philly’s future 2nd at minimum to consider this.

[WeTheNorth123]

Heres a blockbuster GSW-PHI-TOR deal from the Trade Board that may be interesting:


- The warriors need to shore up their front court and their defense.

- The sixers badly need a veteran point guard, and they have a glut at C, with Horford behind Embiid.

- The raptors are no longer championship contenders, and are going to pay Fred VanVleet at point guard. Lowry is a FA next year.

The trade:

GSW incoming: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 21st pick (via PHI)
PHI incoming: Kyle Lowry, 2020 29th pick (via TOR)
TOR incoming: Wiggins, 2020 2nd pick (via GSW)


We get to send Kyle home to Philly for a chance to win a championship. With the second pick, we likely draft either one of Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball. We start the core towards a future.


Fred / Edwards or Ball / Anunoby / Siakam / Horford

Bench: Norm, Ibaka (1 yr overpay deal), T Davis, Thomas, Boucher

Next year, Norm and Ibaka expire. We’re likely not gonna win the championship in the coming season, but we’re 2nd round playoffs material. The idea is to build a solid core with a high ceiling, along with flexibility for the future.

Honestly.....i would do this in a heartbeat.....it's also help Kyle in that he is going to a winning team + hometown.

I'm gonna miss lowry's leadership in the locker room but i would do this trade to inhance our overall talent

Wiggins is a negative asset with the contract. If he was an expiring then I’d consider it. But Lowry’s value is really high right now and taking on money past next year takes us out of 2021 free agency. Unless the Raps think they can turn Wiggins into a value tradeable contract this is a bad trade for Toronto. I’d want Shake Milton and not to give up the 29th pick plus a load of Philly’s future 2nd at minimum to consider this.

He has potential
+ He is young (A year older than Dewan Hernandez)
+ He has already played a lot better with GSW
+ We have a good development program/nick nurse
+ He is a home town guy that always wanted to play for the raptors growing up (small factor but it may motivate him)

And when you throw in the the second pick.....i take the risk every single time (no brainier for me)

[Raptors_128]

Unpopular opinion but, if Giannis signs the super max this off-season I wouldn’t mind taking back Wiggins if we get a significant asset attached.