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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#161 » by StickeeFingaz » Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:26 pm

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StickeeFingaz wrote:Guys, I prefaced my post saying it was a questionable source.

I didn’t go to Northwestern or Syracuse for journalism but I understand sources need to be evaluated and questioned.


Yep, intention was not to flame you for posting source, just to question veracity of "source's" "material"


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Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY 

Post#162 » by VooDoo7 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:21 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Hell, I wonder what his mindset is right now. I could see him getting progressively more pissed off about everything, but the alleged incident with the fans at Cafe Benelux doesn't sound like the Giannis we know. Do we know whether that story is legit?

Giannis is a great guy. But he's also fiercely fiery.

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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#163 » by Diggr14 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:42 pm

What kind of dope ass fans feel that entitled that a guy having a coffee owes them a photo. Ask, if he says no.. move on. **** yourself if you think he owes you something.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#164 » by Bucksfan28 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:45 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Not sure I believe a word of that, but "nontraditional approach" actually sounds like NOT wanting to trade for another star or "sell out" in any way. I think he wants to maintain the one superstar model with balanced support. All indications have always pointed to that, with absolutely NO contrary evidence that I'm aware of.

Today it occurred to me that ownership probably just needed to know what type of moves Giannis would be okay with, and Giannis felt the need to tell them what he wants and how he feels.


Yep, I have no reason to believe this meeting was anything more than getting on the same page w/ a superstar who wants to stay here.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#165 » by CharityStripe34 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:55 pm

Probably an exit meeting and discussing how to make improvements for next season.

Would not be shocked if different coaching was discussed, albeit briefly.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#166 » by Diggr14 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:07 pm

If Giannis wants the team to be non-traditional in team building... Do it for him.

Play Giannis at the 5, surround him with 4 sharpshooters... and 5 more for the bench, play Giannis 38-40 mins a game, get him to operate around the free throw line in (forget the 3). Drop the Eurostep.. it's gonna get him a big knee injury. Use your explosiveness from the line on in and develop a better post game.

Get rid of the woke players, get rid of the nonsense, get rid of the players that wilt in the playoffs, and focus on basketball.


Must Keep:
Giannis (unless he asks to be moved)
Dante
Thiannis (goes wherever Giannis does)

Adios:
Brown
Korver
Ersan
Marvin
Pat C
Rolo (if he declines PO)


Trade if possible:
Hill
Bledsoe
BroLo

Attach to trades:
DJ

Explore keeping, but not necessary:
Wes


Almost Untradeable:
Khris Middleton



Potential Trades:
Brolo / 1st-> NJN for Jarrett Allen/Dinwiddie
Bledsoe / Hill -> Washington for John Wall
Brolo/Bledsoe -> GS for Andrew Wiggins / Filler
Anything you can muster outside of Giannis for Bradley Beal or the GSW #2 pick.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#167 » by CharityStripe34 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:23 pm

Diggr14 wrote:If Giannis wants the team to be non-traditional in team building... Do it for him.

Play Giannis at the 5, surround him with 4 sharpshooters... and 5 more for the bench, play Giannis 38-40 mins a game, get him to operate around the free throw line in (forget the 3). Drop the Eurostep.. it's gonna get him a big knee injury. Use your explosiveness from the line on in and develop a better post game.

Get rid of the woke players, get rid of the nonsense, get rid of the players that wilt in the playoffs, and focus on basketball.


I'm intrigued by Gianni at the 5. And I also agree he has to become more of a Garnett-type big. 18-feet and in. His transition game should be the added bonus of having an all-world athlete at the PF/C position. He's a perfectly fine passer for his size too. In the post he'd be able to make easier reads. What's needed is players who are smart enough to cut when the entire defense is staring at Gianni.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#168 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:24 pm

Diggr14 wrote:If Giannis wants the team to be non-traditional in team building... Do it for him.

Play Giannis at the 5, surround him with 4 sharpshooters... and 5 more for the bench, play Giannis 38-40 mins a game, get him to operate around the free throw line in (forget the 3). Drop the Eurostep.. it's gonna get him a big knee injury. Use your explosiveness from the line on in and develop a better post game.

Get rid of the woke players, get rid of the nonsense, get rid of the players that wilt in the playoffs, and focus on basketball.


Must Keep:
Giannis (unless he asks to be moved)
Dante
Thiannis (goes wherever Giannis does)

Adios:
Brown
Korver
Ersan
Marvin
Pat C
Rolo (if he declines PO)


Trade if possible:
Hill
Bledsoe
BroLo

Attach to trades:
DJ

Explore keeping, but not necessary:
Wes


Almost Untradeable:
Khris Middleton



Potential Trades:
Brolo / 1st-> NJN for Jarrett Allen/Dinwiddie
Bledsoe / Hill -> Washington for John Wall
Brolo/Bledsoe -> GS for Andrew Wiggins / Filler
Anything you can muster outside of Giannis for Bradley Beal or the GSW #2 pick.

Dante is far from must keep.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#169 » by th87 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:26 pm

Diggr14 wrote:If Giannis wants the team to be non-traditional in team building... Do it for him.

Play Giannis at the 5, surround him with 4 sharpshooters... and 5 more for the bench, play Giannis 38-40 mins a game, get him to operate around the free throw line in (forget the 3). Drop the Eurostep.. it's gonna get him a big knee injury. Use your explosiveness from the line on in and develop a better post game.

Get rid of the woke players, get rid of the nonsense, get rid of the players that wilt in the playoffs, and focus on basketball.


Must Keep:
Giannis (unless he asks to be moved)
Dante
Thiannis (goes wherever Giannis does)

Adios:
Brown
Korver
Ersan
Marvin
Pat C
Rolo (if he declines PO)


Trade if possible:
Hill
Bledsoe
BroLo

Attach to trades:
DJ

Explore keeping, but not necessary:
Wes


Almost Untradeable:
Khris Middleton



Potential Trades:
Brolo / 1st-> NJN for Jarrett Allen/Dinwiddie
Bledsoe / Hill -> Washington for John Wall
Brolo/Bledsoe -> GS for Andrew Wiggins / Filler
Anything you can muster outside of Giannis for Bradley Beal or the GSW #2 pick.


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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#170 » by machu46 » Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:45 pm

Diggr14 wrote:If Giannis wants the team to be non-traditional in team building... Do it for him.

Play Giannis at the 5, surround him with 4 sharpshooters... and 5 more for the bench, play Giannis 38-40 mins a game, get him to operate around the free throw line in (forget the 3). Drop the Eurostep.. it's gonna get him a big knee injury. Use your explosiveness from the line on in and develop a better post game.

Get rid of the woke players, get rid of the nonsense, get rid of the players that wilt in the playoffs, and focus on basketball.


Must Keep:
Giannis (unless he asks to be moved)
Dante
Thiannis (goes wherever Giannis does)

Adios:
Brown
Korver
Ersan
Marvin
Pat C
Rolo (if he declines PO)


Trade if possible:
Hill
Bledsoe
BroLo

Attach to trades:
DJ

Explore keeping, but not necessary:
Wes


Almost Untradeable:
Khris Middleton



Potential Trades:
Brolo / 1st-> NJN for Jarrett Allen/Dinwiddie
Bledsoe / Hill -> Washington for John Wall
Brolo/Bledsoe -> GS for Andrew Wiggins / Filler
Anything you can muster outside of Giannis for Bradley Beal or the GSW #2 pick.

I’m confused by you saying we should surround Giannis purely with sharpshooters but then your trade proposals are for zero sharpshooters


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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#171 » by theFireBlanket » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:04 pm

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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#172 » by raysbookclub » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:59 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Not sure I believe a word of that, but "nontraditional approach" actually sounds like NOT wanting to trade for another star or "sell out" in any way. I think he wants to maintain the one superstar model with balanced support. All indications have always pointed to that, with absolutely NO contrary evidence that I'm aware of.

Today it occurred to me that ownership probably just needed to know what type of moves Giannis would be okay with, and Giannis felt the need to tell them what he wants and how he feels.


Maybe it is code for He said Let's not trade for Chris Paul.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#173 » by coolhandluke121 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:32 am

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coolhandluke121 wrote:Not sure I believe a word of that, but "nontraditional approach" actually sounds like NOT wanting to trade for another star or "sell out" in any way. I think he wants to maintain the one superstar model with balanced support. All indications have always pointed to that, with absolutely NO contrary evidence that I'm aware of.

Today it occurred to me that ownership probably just needed to know what type of moves Giannis would be okay with, and Giannis felt the need to tell them what he wants and how he feels.


Maybe it is code for He said Let's not trade for Chris Paul.


My thoughts exactly. And he doesn't seem like the type who would want that personality in the locker room. Conley, Jrue, or Kemba would make more sense personality-wise IMO.
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Re: Giannis Thread - MVP & DPOY 

Post#174 » by emunney » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:37 am

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Beorn wrote:Jesus, I am going to make to printscreen this post and share it with friends, they still laugh when they recall the time you mentioned as possible Greek NT callups Fotsis (who was 40yo at the time and playing in his neighborhood, regional-league club) and Apostolidis (who never became a starter in any of the **** Greek A1 teams, and was playing in the 2nd division at the time of the post) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Or the time you were comparing Chrysikopoulos with Larry Bird in another board :lol:


Of all the players you mentioned it this post, only Papapetrou is a starting Euroleague player, and Sasa is an excellent shooter who can't guard Yi's chair.
None else can be trusted to play consistently 15 mins in a competitive EL team, sadly:
Thanasis is a BCL-level player, Mitoglou and Papajohn have some potential but their were net negatives last year in their limited roles, Koniaris was a terrible guard who couldn't dribble or pass and won't be part of Olympiakos' team next year, Bochoridis failed miserably in Panathinaikos and has been moderately successfull in relegation-zone greek teams, Agravanis is a moron who was an average Eurocup player last year after being the 5th big of Olympiakos for a couple of years, Larentzakis has been a consistently mediocre guy in BCL who flopped in a below average spanish team last season, Athinaiou -despite being healthy- played in less than half of his team's games in his 2-year euroleague tenure, while Nikolaidis and Kalaitzakis have played 25 mins of EL basketball TOGETHER, and that only because Nikolaidis was forced to play in the senior Oly team because they had 7 active players at some point of the season. Poku has not played to a level above the 2nd greek division yet :)


It's very clear that you have never seen a EuroLeague game. It's also very clear you have zero knowledge about any Greek basketball players. I remember previous threads with you talking about the "young Greek players" and you were wrong on literally every single player and prediction you made, while I was right on every single one. Why don't you show your friends all those great predictions you made about young Greek players in previous threads, that turned out totally wrong in every instance.

No way have you ever seen a EuroLeague game.

You also are taking things said by others out of context and taking the concept of moving the goal posts to a very high level. I doubt if you have ever seen a Greek player play, if they were not wearing a Bucks jersey. I doubt if you even have seen a non Bucks NBA game.


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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#175 » by HKPackFan » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:43 am

Surrounding him with Sharp shooters would be nice, but how about sharp shooters that can hit a 3 when needed.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#176 » by mke_design » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:25 am

HKPackFan wrote:Surrounding him with Sharp shooters would be nice, but how about sharp shooters that can hit a 3 when needed.


I would contend they have 1 in Khris. However, they need to find another player who can have enough usage to be respected more than who we've stood in that second guard spot with wes and snell before him. However, a PG who can hit a 3 would be nice.
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#177 » by HurricaneKid » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:30 am

mke_design wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:Surrounding him with Sharp shooters would be nice, but how about sharp shooters that can hit a 3 when needed.


I would contend they have 1 in Khris. However, they need to find another player who can have enough usage to be respected more than who we've stood in that second guard spot with wes and snell before him. However, a PG who can hit a 3 would be nice.
So the guy that led the league in 3pt% doesn't count? That's a pretty high bar no?

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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#178 » by Fotis St » Mon Sep 14, 2020 7:23 am

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mke_design wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:Surrounding him with Sharp shooters would be nice, but how about sharp shooters that can hit a 3 when needed.


I would contend they have 1 in Khris. However, they need to find another player who can have enough usage to be respected more than who we've stood in that second guard spot with wes and snell before him. However, a PG who can hit a 3 would be nice.
So the guy that led the league in 3pt% doesn't count? That's a pretty high bar no?

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OK the correct statement for me is .... A PG that can hit 3s off the dribble .... catch and shoot 3s are OK but not enough, to be a legitimate threat - a playmaker someone that team focus on when he dribbles. G.Hill can't do much for himself and others with a live dribble
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#179 » by PerkinsFor3 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:15 am

All I wanna know is, why is there a cafe called Benelux?
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Re: Giannis Thread - Met with ownership pg 6 

Post#180 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:58 am

PerkinsFor3 wrote:All I wanna know is, why is there a cafe called Benelux?

probably the owner's granpa was from belgium or something

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