GAME 6 Western Semis: NOTE TIME--10 AM Pacific ESPN

[MartinRiggs]

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OMG,what drugs is he taking,I need that stuff.

[Max Headrom]

The thing that made the Clippers dangerous was when the bench came in, they destroyed second units. If your two 6 man of the year candidates have been trash, where do you turn to? What rotations does everyone think would work honestly?

[MartinRiggs]

I feel sorry for Kawhi. The dude was coached by Pop and Nurse and now this...

[NippySudz]

Trezz needs to be benched like Reggie has been benched. He was supposed to bully their bench and give us instant offense. Instead, he's turning it over, leaving Jokic wide open for multiple 3's, and because he's been missing shots lately, he's not giving us any offense either. So you have a guy who basically provides nothing. He only played 15 minutes, but just the mere act of putting him in the game, seems to lead to a run for the Nuggets.

Trezz is a basket case mentally since his grandmother's death and also physically after missing 4 months of basketball.

But the lesson here is how much we depended on him, and now we have nobody to make up his 28 minutes and his 18 ppg. It's also had a domino effect on Lou, and also Reggie and Sham. We went from having the best bench in the league to having none at all. When Kawhi is out of the game, we're dead meat--just look at PG's minus-23.

Trezz lost himself tens of millions by taking a month off (the reason is irrelevant as long as it wasn't due to injury) and playing like **** after he came back. He got the 6th man of the year award, but also proved he can't be reliable when things count and more importantly he cannot be a starter in this league and therfore will not get starter money. He'd be lucky to get somoething better than 3 year $24m in a week FA year. Unfortunate but true. I love the guys energy, but only way he can score is pick and roll with Lou.

When he was gone although the situation was unfortunate, it was a blessing in disguise for the clippers because Zu got more mins.

I feared what was going to happen when he came back. It's not his fault it's docs fault for not putting him in places to succeed

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[Scoundreldays]

Trezz needs to be benched the same way Vogel benched Dwight and Mcghee for Houston. Shrink the rotation or give someone else a chance. Dudes proven he doesn't have it this series.

[playaloc916]

I said doc was the best remaining coach in the west. I lied. Its vogel. Vogel made the adjustments. Doc did not.

Doc is basically the best "players' coach" in the league. One of the those coaches that gets their team to play hard, but when it comes to X's and O's, or adjustments, is mediocre. Raptors had two of them, and both actually won COY, but never went far in the playoffs. Sam Mitchell and Dwane Casey. As soon as they replaced Casey with Nurse (who was an assistant under Casey), they win it all (of course, they had a little bit of help from the Klaw). Nurse is very good with making adjustments.

I was afraid of the Jazz because I thought Snyder was a better coach than Malone, and yet Malone looks like Popavich right now...

Why can't a so-called "player's coach" convince Trez to accept fewer minutes instead of letting him keep blowing leads? Why can't he get this team to keep playing hard when they get a big lead?

Not buying this "player's coach" stuff. Doc isn't good at that either.

Getting Trezz to play fewer minutes would be an adjustment. Doc is probably trying to hype him up and get him out of his funk. But this is not the time to do it. The other team is going to make you pay for it.

I also think this team doesn't have a strong leader on the floor. They don't have a guy on the floor to calm them down, like a Billups. Bev was kind of like that, but even he is getting rattled... Kawhi is more of a silent assassin type, not really a guy to motivate other players.

[nickhx2]

imagine if we could get pop to come over and replace doc

[og15]

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Wow, just wow.

Single game +/- is limited because there are a lot of factors such as teammate on the floor at the time, your team being cold, the other team being hot, so many things can come together to give an individual player a bad +/- even if they actually played well. Harrell did not do much in the game though, at least Zubac was a force on the boards, and it is not single game, it has been fairly constant in the playoffs that the team has been better with Zubac on the floor.

[MartinToVaught]

Trezz needs to be benched the same way Vogel benched Dwight and Mcghee for Houston. Shrink the rotation or give someone else a chance. Dudes proven he doesn't have it this series.

It's not going to happen, though. Doc threw Zu under the bus again in the postgame.

[SunsRback4Good]

No offense, you guys are an excellent team, but the Nuggets will push this to 7 games. Therefore, with proper calculations I am placing $1600 on the Nuggets to win. No hard feelings fellas but I've done my research accordingly.

Post#16 » Today, 8:16 am

Nobody wants to give me my props?

[MartinToVaught]

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Glad the players are happy. They really don't get what this series meant to this long-suffering fanbase.

[esqtvd]

Trezz is a basket case mentally since his grandmother's death and also physically after missing 4 months of basketball.

But the lesson here is how much we depended on him, and now we have nobody to make up his 28 minutes and his 18 ppg. It's also had a domino effect on Lou, and also Reggie and Sham. We went from having the best bench in the league to having none at all. When Kawhi is out of the game, we're dead meat--just look at PG's minus-23.

Trezz lost himself tens of millions by taking a month off (the reason is irrelevant as long as it wasn't due to injury) and playing like **** after he came back. He got the 6th man of the year award, but also proved he can't be reliable when things count and more importantly he cannot be a starter in this league and therfore will not get starter money. He'd be lucky to get somoething better than 3 year $24m in a week FA year. Unfortunate but true. I love the guys energy, but only way he can score is pick and roll with Lou.

When he was gone although the situation was unfortunate, it was a blessing in disguise for the clippers because Zu got more mins.

I feared what was going to happen when he came back. It's not his fault it's docs fault for not putting him in places to succeed

Not really the point here. Nobody--me--is denying Trezz has been ass. The problem is we have nobody to replace his energy and production. He's left a 28 mpg hole. PG's minus-23 tells the whole story.

[NickP]

The thing that made the Clippers dangerous was when the bench came in, they destroyed second units. If your two 6 man of the year candidates have been trash, where do you turn to? What rotations does everyone think would work honestly?

You build a deep team for this purpose. You put your faith in Green, Patterson and Reggie. You make Reggie a SG and let someone else handle the ball. If Doc has brains the possibilities could be endless.

[Quake Griffin]

Btw....

Is Kawhi re-signing here in 2021 if we blow this series?
This would be a very good down payment on that answer being no.

[og15]

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OMG,what drugs is he taking,I need that stuff.

He's not wrong, it isn't about whether you have the data, it is about what you do with it

Clippers have not consistently done what they should with the data. We look at the defensive collapse (gave up 30 pts and 34 pts in the 3rd and 4th), but this team had it's lowest scoring quarter in the playoffs in the 3rd (16 pts) and then tied their previous lowest of 19 pts in the 4th.

[esqtvd]

The thing that made the Clippers dangerous was when the bench came in, they destroyed second units. If your two 6 man of the year candidates have been trash, where do you turn to? What rotations does everyone think would work honestly?

You build a deep team for this purpose. You put your faith in Green, Patterson and Reggie. You make Reggie a SG and let someone else handle the ball. If Doc has brains the possibilities could be endless.

Trezz was the 6MOY. Green shows up every other game. Reggie has been a whipping boy around here. Patterson isn't even on the map.

Obviously we have to scramble in Game 7. But you're not going to win in the NBA scoring 35 points in a half and you're probably not going to get it from the back of your bench.

[MartinToVaught]

The problem is we have nobody to replace his energy and production.

We don't need to "replace" him. We just need to stop playing him at all. We are far better when he's not on the court. It isn't rocket science.

[MartinToVaught]

Trezz was the 6MOY.

So was Jamal Crawford. He was still terrible in the playoffs. So is Trez.

[MartinToVaught]

Btw....

Is Kawhi re-signing here in 2021 if we blow this series?
This would be a very good down payment on that answer being no.

This offseason will answer that question. If Doc and Trez are still here next season, he'll leave after the inevitable second-round exit.

I'm very worried that Doc will blame the bubble and injuries for this and Ballmer will believe it like he's believed all of Doc's other excuses.

[MartinRiggs]

Lou and Trez look like they are too soft to handle the bubble. They had more than enough time to adjust and this was their worst game. I mean thoose Lou misses were terrible,some of the worst I have ever seen.

If they can't handle the situation send them home and play Shamet,Reggie and Noah.