2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Unpopular opinion but, if Giannis signs the super max this off-season I wouldn’t mind taking back Wiggins if we get a significant asset attached.

I think that's fair. Twolves are a god-awful team for a young player to develop his game. I just hope its not too late.

[Mattatron]

Unpopular opinion but, if Giannis signs the super max this off-season I wouldn’t mind taking back Wiggins if we get a significant asset attached.

I think that's fair. Twolves are a god-awful team for a young player to develop his game. I just hope its not too late.

Nah, Jimmy slayed him for his work ethic. That deal would eliminate the max slot for 2021. Too risky, pls stop that emotional wiggins/toronto thing. I'd rather sign good role players, if no star is coming in 2021 than get this guy. Awful.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Unpopular opinion but, if Giannis signs the super max this off-season I wouldn’t mind taking back Wiggins if we get a significant asset attached.

I think that's fair. Twolves are a god-awful team for a young player to develop his game. I just hope its not too late.

Nah, Jimmy slayed him for his work ethic. That deal would eliminate the max slot for 2021. Too risky, pls stop that emotional wiggins/toronto thing. I'd rather sign good role players, if no star is coming in 2021 than get this guy. Awful.

players can mature over time too though. We have a solid environment here with good chemistry.
Also, if Giannis takes the supermax, there are no FAs who would be coming here. additionally, we would have a chance to get a blue chip prospect in the draft.

[Mattatron]

I think that's fair. Twolves are a god-awful team for a young player to develop his game. I just hope its not too late.

Nah, Jimmy slayed him for his work ethic. That deal would eliminate the max slot for 2021. Too risky, pls stop that emotional wiggins/toronto thing. I'd rather sign good role players, if no star is coming in 2021 than get this guy. Awful.

players can mature over time too though. We have a solid environment here with good chemistry.
Also, if Giannis takes the supermax, there are no FAs who would be coming here. additionally, we would have a chance to get a blue chip prospect in the draft.

So if not even role players would come to Toronto why should the MVP and DpoY
Toronto is attractive enough for good role players to build a team and collect tradeable assets with good contracts just to wait for the next situation when a star wants to le leave his team, so that he's already in in a fully stacked, well balanced, friendly team. You have to think this way. Wiggins just not worth it. work preventively. There's maybe a 20% chance he will be a solid players and 80% chance that this can be awful for the franchise with the culture. Before you get Wiggins, the Raptors have to teach Siakam how to play the game of basketball.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Nah, Jimmy slayed him for his work ethic. That deal would eliminate the max slot for 2021. Too risky, pls stop that emotional wiggins/toronto thing. I'd rather sign good role players, if no star is coming in 2021 than get this guy. Awful.

players can mature over time too though. We have a solid environment here with good chemistry.
Also, if Giannis takes the supermax, there are no FAs who would be coming here. additionally, we would have a chance to get a blue chip prospect in the draft.

So if not even role players would come to Toronto why should the MVP and DpoY
Toronto is attractive enough for good role players to build a team and collect tradeable assets with good contracts just to wait for the next situation when a star wants to le leave his team, so that he's already in in a fully stacked, well balanced, friendly team. You have to think this way. Wiggins just not worth it. work preventively. There's maybe a 20% chance he will be a solid players and 80% chance that this can be awful for the franchise with the culture. Before you get Wiggins, the Raptors have to teach Siakam how to play the game of basketball.

what you say is reasonable. There is more than one way to skin this cat so to speak. If we do get Wiggins, his contract runs for 3 years. We will invest at least two years in him and if he doesn't work out then he's an expiring contract. Again, the benefit is a blue chip prospect is the second pick that you would hope to keep for at least seven years(rookie contract plus extension). It keeps the team competitive also and in the playoffs.
But again a lot of this is dependent on what Lowry wants, because he's earned the right to write his own ticket. Also on FO's draft assessment and also on their assessment of Wiggins.

[Mattatron]

players can mature over time too though. We have a solid environment here with good chemistry.
Also, if Giannis takes the supermax, there are no FAs who would be coming here. additionally, we would have a chance to get a blue chip prospect in the draft.

So if not even role players would come to Toronto why should the MVP and DpoY
Toronto is attractive enough for good role players to build a team and collect tradeable assets with good contracts just to wait for the next situation when a star wants to le leave his team, so that he's already in in a fully stacked, well balanced, friendly team. You have to think this way. Wiggins just not worth it. work preventively. There's maybe a 20% chance he will be a solid players and 80% chance that this can be awful for the franchise with the culture. Before you get Wiggins, the Raptors have to teach Siakam how to play the game of basketball.

what you say is reasonable. There is more than one way to skin this cat so to speak. If we do get Wiggins, his contract runs for 3 years. We will invest at least two years in him and if he doesn't work out then he's an expiring contract. Again, the benefit is a blue chip prospect is the second pick that you would hope to keep for at least seven years(rookie contract plus extension). It keeps the team competitive also and in the playoffs.
But again a lot of this is dependent on what Lowry wants, because he's earned the right to write his own ticket. Also on FO's draft assessment and also on their assessment of Wiggins.

Yeah but I doubt that anyone in this draft class can be something outstanding for the ambitions for the Raptors rn as long as Lowry is with us, I want to compete and keep the roster clean this next year, he still got something in the tank (maximum 2 all star seasons). I'm so happy for his year he played, he finally is getting praised and ppl see how value this guy always have been. Such a underrated player. We have to keep both, FVV and MaFuzzy. Powell should be dealed at the deadline or 2021 FA for a pick in the 2021 draft class. But to increase his value more, he needs to start instead of Freddy, Freddy is the perfect 6thMan

[isyed]

I like the lowry trade for wiggins and number 2 pick if possible.

I'd also throw the max at Ingram if possible with covid impacting small market teams I would easily do a norm plus a future pick sign and trade for Ingram.

Extend fvv on a 5 year 80 mil with player option after 3 years.

Go for ball or Edward's with the second pick and build our team.
Extend og on 4 year 60 mill deal


Use the mid level for gasol.

Fvv/ball
Wiggins/davis/thomas
Ingram/watson
Og/29th pick
Siakam/gasol/hernandez

Start small and then use your bigs off the bench. Ball and ingram become your scorers and creators. Og and Siakam still give you the lengths and defense.



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[Mark_83]

Let Gasol walk unless he takes pennies on the dollar. Sign Ibaka, but if not get some combo of Noel + Baynes or Wood + Baynes.

[Rapsfan07]

Heres a blockbuster GSW-PHI-TOR deal from the Trade Board that may be interesting:


- The warriors need to shore up their front court and their defense.

- The sixers badly need a veteran point guard, and they have a glut at C, with Horford behind Embiid.

- The raptors are no longer championship contenders, and are going to pay Fred VanVleet at point guard. Lowry is a FA next year.

The trade:

GSW incoming: Al Horford, Matisse Thybulle, 2020 21st pick (via PHI)
PHI incoming: Kyle Lowry, 2020 29th pick (via TOR)
TOR incoming: Wiggins, 2020 2nd pick (via GSW)


We get to send Kyle home to Philly for a chance to win a championship. With the second pick, we likely draft either one of Anthony Edwards or Lamelo Ball. We start the core towards a future.


Fred / Edwards or Ball / Anunoby / Siakam / Horford

Bench: Norm, Ibaka (1 yr overpay deal), T Davis, Thomas, Boucher

Next year, Norm and Ibaka expire. We’re likely not gonna win the championship in the coming season, but we’re 2nd round playoffs material. The idea is to build a solid core with a high ceiling, along with flexibility for the future.

Honestly.....i would do this in a heartbeat.....it's also help Kyle in that he is going to a winning team + hometown.

I'm gonna miss lowry's leadership in the locker room but i would do this trade to inhance our overall talent

I would do this deal. Best part isn't even the pick, it's that Lowry would be playing at home on a team where his efforts and talents wouldn't be wasted.

This is a yes for me if Giannis resigns with the Bucks or goes elsewhere.

[Rapsfan07]

Unpopular opinion but, if Giannis signs the super max this off-season I wouldn’t mind taking back Wiggins if we get a significant asset attached.

I think that's fair. Twolves are a god-awful team for a young player to develop his game. I just hope its not too late.

Wiggins plays for the Warriors now

[gerrit4]

Unpopular opinion but, if Giannis signs the super max this off-season I wouldn’t mind taking back Wiggins if we get a significant asset attached.

I think that's fair. Twolves are a god-awful team for a young player to develop his game. I just hope its not too late.

Wiggins plays for the Warriors now

He developed in Minnesota

[mademan]

Ball and Wiggins on this team just destroys the entire culture thats been built here. Wiggins doesnt care about basketball.

[Raptors_128]

The 3-team deal with the Warriors and Sixers is growing on me tbh. Being able to send Kyle back to Philly is a huge part of the trade for me. It’s probably a dream come true for Kyle.

Wiggins + #2 to Toronto
Horford + Richardson + Thybulle + #21 to GSW
Lowry + Looney + Poole to Philly

I think we can move Wiggins for expirings too. If I remember correctly in Minnesota there were rumour of teams offering expiring contracts but nothing more for Wiggins.

[team edward]

The 3-team deal with the Warriors and Sixers is growing on me tbh. Being able to send Kyle back to Philly is a huge part of the trade for me. It’s probably a dream come true for Kyle.

Wiggins + #2 to Toronto
Horford + Richardson + Thybulle + #21 to GSW
Lowry + Looney + Poole to Philly

I think we can move Wiggins for expirings too. If I remember correctly in Minnesota there were rumour of teams offering expiring contracts but nothing more for Wiggins.

This is crazy talk. Wiggins is $100m of dead weight.

[Raptorfan2012]

The 3-team deal with the Warriors and Sixers is growing on me tbh. Being able to send Kyle back to Philly is a huge part of the trade for me. It’s probably a dream come true for Kyle.

Wiggins + #2 to Toronto
Horford + Richardson + Thybulle + #21 to GSW
Lowry + Looney + Poole to Philly

I think we can move Wiggins for expirings too. If I remember correctly in Minnesota there were rumour of teams offering expiring contracts but nothing more for Wiggins.

Im okay with this since its time for us to get some serious young talent. Is Wiggins really that bad though? Can he create his own shot?

[Syd-TK3]

Ball and Wiggins on this team just destroys the entire culture thats been built here. Wiggins doesnt care about basketball.

Lol seriously.
I mean assuming this crazy thing were to happen you only do it if Giannis signs his extension 1st off and 2nd you definitely don't draft Ball

[TheAlchemist]

Unpopular opinion but, if Giannis signs the super max this off-season I wouldn’t mind taking back Wiggins if we get a significant asset attached.

I think that's fair. Twolves are a god-awful team for a young player to develop his game. I just hope its not too late.

Nah, Jimmy slayed him for his work ethic. That deal would eliminate the max slot for 2021. Too risky, pls stop that emotional wiggins/toronto thing. I'd rather sign good role players, if no star is coming in 2021 than get this guy. Awful.

Wiggins sucks so bad. But what's worst is that the #2 pick will 100% be that center kid. And he looks like ass.

[Raptors_128]

The 3-team deal with the Warriors and Sixers is growing on me tbh. Being able to send Kyle back to Philly is a huge part of the trade for me. It’s probably a dream come true for Kyle.

Wiggins + #2 to Toronto
Horford + Richardson + Thybulle + #21 to GSW
Lowry + Looney + Poole to Philly

I think we can move Wiggins for expirings too. If I remember correctly in Minnesota there were rumour of teams offering expiring contracts but nothing more for Wiggins.

Im okay with this since its time for us to get some serious young talent. Is Wiggins really that bad though? Can he create his own shot?

For him it’s always been about his effort level. He can be a lazy player if I’m being honest. However, the skill and talent is there and he can create his own shot.

Getting him into our development program and around our culture may change that since he’s only 24 but, it could be possible that this is who he is.

I think we can move him for expirings pretty easily since he is still a 20+ ppg player. A small market team like Charlotte or Memphis might be willing to take a chance on him if he’s basically free.

[Mattatron]

The 3-team deal with the Warriors and Sixers is growing on me tbh. Being able to send Kyle back to Philly is a huge part of the trade for me. It’s probably a dream come true for Kyle.

Wiggins + #2 to Toronto
Horford + Richardson + Thybulle + #21 to GSW
Lowry + Looney + Poole to Philly

I think we can move Wiggins for expirings too. If I remember correctly in Minnesota there were rumour of teams offering expiring contracts but nothing more for Wiggins.

Im okay with this since its time for us to get some serious young talent. Is Wiggins really that bad though? Can he create his own shot?

For him it’s always been about his effort level. He can be a lazy player if I’m being honest. However, the skill and talent is there and he can create his own shot.

Getting him into our development program and around our culture may change that since he’s only 24 but, it could be possible that this is who he is.

I think we can move him for expirings pretty easily since he is still a 20+ ppg player. A small market team like Charlotte or Memphis might be willing to take a chance on him if he’s basically free.

No you can't move him. If it would be so Easy for expiring why hat the wolves so many problems. This contract in combination with his value is nearly 0. Why should Memphis get him with Winslow and Morant. They have a exciting team that nearly makes the postseason lol. Not even Charlotte would take him after the Batum fiasco. Everyone wants to keep the books clean rn. Especially small market teams because of covid.

[Raptors_128]

Im okay with this since its time for us to get some serious young talent. Is Wiggins really that bad though? Can he create his own shot?

For him it’s always been about his effort level. He can be a lazy player if I’m being honest. However, the skill and talent is there and he can create his own shot.

Getting him into our development program and around our culture may change that since he’s only 24 but, it could be possible that this is who he is.

I think we can move him for expirings pretty easily since he is still a 20+ ppg player. A small market team like Charlotte or Memphis might be willing to take a chance on him if he’s basically free.

No you can't move him. If it would be so Easy for expiring why hat the wolves so many problems. This contract in combination with his value is nearly 0. Why should Memphis get him with Winslow and Morant. They have a exciting team that nearly makes the postseason lol. Not even Charlotte would take him after the Batum fiasco. Everyone wants to keep the books clean rn. Especially small market teams because of covid.

The wolves didn’t have any problems moving him as they got Russell for him. I believe teams were offering them expiring contracts but they didn’t want that. They wanted to get value for him. That’s why he was hard to trade imo.

Who is Charlotte saving their cap space for? Who is signing in Memphis? They can take a chance on a young 20+ ppg scorer for 3 years when Morant is on his rookie contract. Memphis has a crazy amount of cap space in the coming off-seasons I think like $80 mill in 2021. This is also the team that paid Parsons a max contract with his injury history.

The effects of COVID for small market teams is something I didn’t think of so that’s a good point. They still have to spend to the cap floor so rather than spend it on an older vet they can take a chance on a 24 year old.