The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 6)

[homecourtloss]

LeBron is 29-5 in closeout games going back to 2011 which is crazy. He’s 37-10 overall, the best record out of those I’ve looked up. Note that some of the close out games can also be elimination games (games 3 and 5 from the old days, game 7s today).

LeBron, 37-10
Duncan, 35-14
Kareem, 37-16
Shaq, 33-14
Jordan, 30-13
Magic, 32-14
Durant, 21-10
Kobe, 33-16
Bill Russell 25-16
Bird, 22-17

Others without 20+ closeout wins:
Curry, 19-9
Kawhi 17-10
Hakeem, 16-10
K. Malone, 19-24
West, 16-22
CP3, 7-12

[trickshot]

Good old Uncle JB gotta love it

Lol it's like if Skip Bayless had a Rgm account

I feel for Skip tomorrow with Shannon though. He should call in sick and let Broussard or Rob Parker deal with Shannon. Shannon is the one I am more worried about normally though. He said he couldn't sleep after the Lakers lost game 1 to Portland.

It's skip, the master of engineering win-win situations for himself. He'll be fine

[Homer38]

LeBron is 29-5 in closeout games going back to 2011 which is crazy. He’s 37-10 overall, the best record out of those I’ve looked up. Note that some of the close out games can also be elimination games (games 3 and 5 from the old days, game 7s today).

LeBron, 37-10
Duncan, 35-14
Kareem, 37-16
Jordan, 30-13
Magic, 32-14
Durant, 21-10
Kobe, 33-16
Bill Russel 25-16
Bird, 22-17

Others without 20+ closeout wins:
Curry, 19-9
Kawhi 17-10
Hakeem, 16-10
West, 16-22

Do you have the record of Shaq?

And for Bill Russell,the crazy thing,he was 10-0 in game 7 in his career!

[homecourtloss]

LeBron is 29-5 in closeout games going back to 2011 which is crazy. He’s 37-10 overall, the best record out of those I’ve looked up. Note that some of the close out games can also be elimination games (games 3 and 5 from the old days, game 7s today).

LeBron, 37-10
Duncan, 35-14
Kareem, 37-16
Jordan, 30-13
Magic, 32-14
Durant, 21-10
Kobe, 33-16
Bill Russel 25-16
Bird, 22-17

Others without 20+ closeout wins:
Curry, 19-9
Kawhi 17-10
Hakeem, 16-10
West, 16-22

Do you have the record of Shaq?

And for Bill Russell,the crazy thing,he was 10-0 in game 7 in his career!

33-14. I had him down but forgot to put in the list. Someone should double check these since I did them pretty quickly.

[dreamshake]

Which time did you guys feel most confident in LeBron’s team winning that title? Now? 2015 pre-Love going down? 2013 at some point? 2009 after sweeping the first two rounds?

For me it was during the win streak in 2013. Defending champions winning 27 straight and it just seemed like they could win any game they wanted to. Couldn’t imagine someone beating them 4 times. Turned out to be a lot tougher than expected tho

[GSP]

LeBron is 29-5 in closeout games going back to 2011 which is crazy. He’s 37-10 overall, the best record out of those I’ve looked up. Note that some of the close out games can also be elimination games (games 3 and 5 from the old days, game 7s today).

LeBron, 37-10
Duncan, 35-14
Kareem, 37-16
Shaq, 33-14
Jordan, 30-13
Magic, 32-14
Durant, 21-10
Kobe, 33-16
Bill Russel 25-16
Bird, 22-17

Others without 20+ closeout wins:
Curry, 19-9
Kawhi 17-10
Hakeem, 16-10
K. Malone, 19-24
West, 16-22
CP3, 7-12

Surprised at how relatively mediocre Russell's is

[Joey Wheeler]

On a side note, LAC -295 next game moneyline

Considering betting on them so I would be happy either way. Would rather lose a couple hundred bucks than LAC to go on, but if LAC wins, I rather take some free cash

There is more money on Denver's line

Trez this series has been comical. Hes basically Kenneth Faried

and the +/- numbers when Mpj and Kawhi are both on the floor is very interesting. Nuggs are winning by a wide margin

It feels very 50/50 honestly. At the current odds, Denver is the only smart bet.

Don't think it matters for the Lakers who wins, neither team has anything for them in the next round. If homecourt advantage was a thing, it'd be better to face the Clippers since Denver have a genuine home advantage, but with that out of the equation it doesn't really matter, Lakers in 4/5 either way.

[yoyoboy]

On a side note, LAC -295 next game moneyline

Considering betting on them so I would be happy either way. Would rather lose a couple hundred bucks than LAC to go on, but if LAC wins, I rather take some free cash

There is more money on Denver's line

Trez this series has been comical. Hes basically Kenneth Faried

and the +/- numbers when Mpj and Kawhi are both on the floor is very interesting. Nuggs are winning by a wide margin

It feels very 50/50 honestly. At the current odds, Denver is the only smart bet.

Don't think it matters for the Lakers who wins, neither team has anything for them in the next round. If homecourt advantage was a thing, it'd be better to face the Clippers since Denver have a genuine home advantage, but with that out of the equation it doesn't really matter, Lakers in 4/5 either way.

4-5? I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Denver and LAC aren't going to go down that easily even though I do clearly favor the Lakers at this point.

[GSP]

There is more money on Denver's line

Trez this series has been comical. Hes basically Kenneth Faried

and the +/- numbers when Mpj and Kawhi are both on the floor is very interesting. Nuggs are winning by a wide margin

It feels very 50/50 honestly. At the current odds, Denver is the only smart bet.

Don't think it matters for the Lakers who wins, neither team has anything for them in the next round. If homecourt advantage was a thing, it'd be better to face the Clippers since Denver have a genuine home advantage, but with that out of the equation it doesn't really matter, Lakers in 4/5 either way.

4-5? I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Denver and LAC aren't going to go down that easily even though I do clearly favor the Lakers at this point.

Yes they are going down easily. Neither match up well with La specially Denver.

Weren't you worried about Houston specially after game 1? They would've beaten Denver fairly easily

[Joey Wheeler]

There is more money on Denver's line

Trez this series has been comical. Hes basically Kenneth Faried

and the +/- numbers when Mpj and Kawhi are both on the floor is very interesting. Nuggs are winning by a wide margin

It feels very 50/50 honestly. At the current odds, Denver is the only smart bet.

Don't think it matters for the Lakers who wins, neither team has anything for them in the next round. If homecourt advantage was a thing, it'd be better to face the Clippers since Denver have a genuine home advantage, but with that out of the equation it doesn't really matter, Lakers in 4/5 either way.

4-5? I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Denver and LAC aren't going to go down that easily even though I do clearly favor the Lakers at this point.

How are those teams going to be competitive with the Lakers exactly? Both have no rim protection against Lebron and AD. The Clippers also lack a real offensive engine to generate easy team-level offense. It'll be a complete mismatch.

[Joey Wheeler]

It feels very 50/50 honestly. At the current odds, Denver is the only smart bet.

Don't think it matters for the Lakers who wins, neither team has anything for them in the next round. If homecourt advantage was a thing, it'd be better to face the Clippers since Denver have a genuine home advantage, but with that out of the equation it doesn't really matter, Lakers in 4/5 either way.

4-5? I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Denver and LAC aren't going to go down that easily even though I do clearly favor the Lakers at this point.

Yes they are going down easily. Neither match up well with La specially Denver.

Weren't you worried about Houston specially after game 1? They would've beaten Denver fairly easily

Both teams have no rim protection, Lebron and AD will maul them in the paint all series long.

[MyUniBroDavis]

4-5? I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Denver and LAC aren't going to go down that easily even though I do clearly favor the Lakers at this point.

Yes they are going down easily. Neither match up well with La specially Denver.

Weren't you worried about Houston specially after game 1? They would've beaten Denver fairly easily

Both teams have no rim protection, Lebron and AD will maul them in the paint all series long.

Id agree if they didnt have zubac

With the clippers i just feel they have a second gear that theyll hit show game 7

They lost their games from carelessness rather than being outplayed

[GSP]

Yes they are going down easily. Neither match up well with La specially Denver.

Weren't you worried about Houston specially after game 1? They would've beaten Denver fairly easily

Both teams have no rim protection, Lebron and AD will maul them in the paint all series long.

Id agree if they didnt have zubac

With the clippers i just feel they have a second gear that theyll hit show game 7

They lost their games from carelessness rather than being outplayed

If they had a 2nd gear wed already be gearing up for the Wcf

They lost TWO 16pt+ leads b/c theyve fallen apart and dont have another gear to hit. They have no answer for Mpj spotting up as he can shoot over everyone on their team. They have no answer for Jokic b/c Zubac is too slow and Montrez is too small. And offensively Denver has just been hunting Lou and Montrez in pick and roll in 2nd halves which is easily what Lakers can do and no one is better at that than Lebron

Its wild ppl still cant see the Clips team for the paper tiger team they are

Ill admit i thought it was just the La teams VS Milwaukee to decide the title all season but its obvious now that Lakers are in their own tier

[xb3at band1tx]

I still can't believe the Clips are going to 7 lol

[Pelly24]

LeBron is insanely good man.

This feels like a playoff series from the 15-17 Cavs.

Excellent supporting cast but it really feels like this guy brings another level of intelligence, ability, and leadership that helps make it easy to execute a game plan.

Now that I’m typing this feeling that’s exactly it.

LeBron teams have insane gameplan execution in the postseason that you just don’t see from any other player’s teams.

If you are have fatal flaws as a team, you are probably finished against LeBron. You’re just not getting off the hook.

This feels so true. I think if you just get LeBron a top 15 player and even a decent supporting cast you're good money. But oddly I feel like this is his best overall team since being on the heat, his flatout best when you consider the "2nd Option." AD is a top 6 or 7 player in the league at or near the peak of his abilities and he is a more seamless fit. 2011 DWade is a better player, but AD might not be so distant as a 2nd option. AD can't really guarantee a team is playoff bound, but in this role he feels nigh-unstoppable. The Lakers are a pedestrian team when it comes to shooting that's for sure, but their defense is elite and versatile. They've got three legit rim protectors, two solid guard defenders (Rondo and Caruso [I think?]) and a backup PG with amazing savvy and passing ability in Rondo. Morris can make their small-ball lineup and he can shoot. Kuzma has been fairly sharp on defense and has been a solid cutter and is diving for loose balls and other cool stuff. Unlike the Cavs teams sans Kyrie and Love, no one could ever do anything but shoot the ball. Now there are guys that can put the ball on the ground, slash, pass, finish alley oops, there's small ball and ultra big ball, there's quality backup PG and half the time they could all shoot well enough to leave some spacing for LeBron. I'm very encouraged. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but watching the way this team has come together and seeing LeBron's role in it is insane.

[Heej]

Is AD for sure worse than 2011 Wade? Wade was pretty doo doo against the Bulls. I feel like AD has never gotten shut down in a series. How do know Wade just isn't a better floor raiser while AD is a better ceiling raiser. Guess I gotta see how AD does in the conference finals but idk man it seems like there's a possibility that 2020 Playoff AD will be remembered as LeBron's best teammate.

[Homer38]

Am I one of the only ones who don't care if Davis wins the FMVP if the lakers win the title?

LeBron already has 3 FMVP which is tied for second place, so if the lakers win the title and LeBron is playing great, it's going to be huge for him to win the title with the lakers even if he doesn't win the FMVP.

There's always gonna be haters no matter what.

[KTM_2813]

Is AD for sure worse than 2011 Wade? Wade was pretty doo doo against the Bulls. I feel like AD has never gotten shut down in a series. How do know Wade just isn't a better floor raiser while AD is a better ceiling raiser. Guess I gotta see how AD does in the conference finals but idk man it seems like there's a possibility that 2020 Playoff AD will be remembered as LeBron's best teammate.

I could be crazy for asking this (and tell me if I am), but... Does 2011 PS Wade even have an argument over 2020 PS AD? IIRC, AD had better box score metrics while also impacting the game more in ways that aren't directly measured by the box score (e.g. defense and spacing). Maybe Wade was better in a vacuum, but if you factor in fit, I think Davis has the edge (assuming he continues on his current pace).

[SideshowBob]

Who Was Lebron's Best Teammate

Hash it out friendos.

[Dupp]

So I came across a video yesterday of Fizdale talking bout the 2011 heat and he was saying that team never practiced the offensive side of the ball only defense. Seems like that was terrible coaching in hindsight as wade and lebron struggled offensively together all season and that ended up being their undoing.