Giannis Thread - 2 Time MVP - The Contract discussions

rilamann · Post #221 » by **rilamann** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:02 pm

If I was Giannis, I'd be more annoyed that the Bucks prioritized a perennial playoff turd like Eric Bledsoe over a guy like Malcom Brogdon.

tydett · Post #222 » by **tydett** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:03 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:That's not what that means.

Guess Giannis must still be mad that we traded away his best friend MCW, right?

Giannis immediately demanded a trade when the Bucks got rid of Thon, who Giannis called his "little brother" and Tony Snell, another close Antetokounmpo confidant.

Chuck Diesel · Post #223 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:03 pm

Giannis wasn’t actually upset though, that was an obvious Kidd media manipulation. Getting rid of a bad coach is different than getting rid of a good teammate.

DrWood · Post #224 » by **DrWood** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:07 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:Gulp... what about Middleton, Bledsoe, Hill, and Indy’s first for Wall and Beal?

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that makes us worse now and in the future.

UnFadeable21 · Post #225 » by **UnFadeable21** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:08 pm

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Daver · Post #226 » by **Daver** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:11 pm

Fotis St wrote:I think Giannis was against the sign n trade of Brogdon and he just went to Lasry and said "I told you so, now what ? You gonna go cheap or will you gonna go ALL IN for a ring ? Cause I'm going ALL IN for 7 years in row... Are we on the same page ? If we are ... show me "

Man with all this garbage about brogdan you would think hes the second coming of MJ the dude didnt want to be in milwaukee and its funny nothing was said about brogdan during the season when they were racing to 70 wins.It was more like malcolm who? but crap your pants in the POs out comes damn horst you suck should of kept brogdan

stillgotgame · Post #227 » by **stillgotgame** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:27 pm

UnFadeable21 wrote:

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Unlike the Rockets owner who is in the restaurant business and has gotten crushed financially this year, the Bucks’ owners are making a killing with their hedge funds. Market has been positively on fire, and our Billionaires should be flush with cash.

Post #228 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:31 pm

I feel like these leaks are coming from Lasry's camp, no? They seem to paint him in a positive light.

Post #229 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:33 pm

As much as I was - and still am - a bit annoyed by the Brogdon walk, I think the financial considerations were one of many reasonable justifications for letting him go.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #230 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:34 pm

rilamann wrote:If I was Giannis, I'd be more annoyed that the Bucks prioritized a perennial playoff turd like Eric Bledsoe over a guy like Malcom Brogdon.

This is assuming that Giannis didn't want Bled back at all costs at that point in time.

machu46 · Post #231 » by **machu46** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:49 pm

humanrefutation wrote:As much as I was - and still am - a bit annoyed by the Brogdon walk, I think the financial considerations were one of many reasonable justifications for letting him go.

Yeah, it's not hard for me to acknowledge that Brogdon is a good player who we had many good reasons to trade for picks.

soxperry · Post #232 » by **soxperry** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:50 pm

Re-signing bled was absolutely the right call. Have you seen us try and defend playmaking guards and wings without him? Its a nightmare. His contract was very appropriate for a great defensive player who you are hoping can further develop his offensive game. His shooting seems to have improved this year but he still has no in between game and that limits us on offense.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #233 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:04 pm

soxperry wrote:Re-signing bled was absolutely the right call. Have you seen us try and defend playmaking guards and wings without him? Its a nightmare. His contract was very appropriate for a great defensive player who you are hoping can further develop his offensive game. His shooting seems to have improved this year but he still has no in between game and that limits us on offense.

Bucks just should've waited until the offseason to give him that extension. Would've saved at least a few million.

At the time, I had no idea he was eligible for an in season extension, so Bucks only had the 1 playoff failure on his record

I remember he signed that and then destroyed the Lakers for like 36 points and he's never had a game close to that for us again

rilamann · Post #234 » by **rilamann** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:13 pm

The only real argument you can make for not re-signing Brogdon is his injury history. But even with that, I would still rather take my chances with Brogdon than continusly put my playoff fate in the hands of a mental midgit like Eric Bledsoe.

Post #235 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:24 pm

rilamann wrote:If I was Giannis, I'd be more annoyed that the Bucks prioritized a perennial playoff turd like Eric Bledsoe over a guy like Malcom Brogdon.

1. Malcolm wanted out partly because he wanted to be the man at point. That included taking the ball out of Giannis hands

2. If Giannis really wanted Malcolm, he would have been retained last year.

ETA: Sure NBA media syncophants are pushing the "We didn't keep Malcolm cuz the owners is cheap, it's that easy" but I'm not sure that reflects the actual situation.

The luxury tax current discussion relates more to taking on a massive deal like Chris Paul's IMO.

Sigra · Post #236 » by **Sigra** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:48 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:Or maybe he just hates change......

His family history tell us different story. They changed their country and then they changed their names too.

Lets hope he is sick and tired of changes.....

DanoMac · Post #237 » by **DanoMac** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:50 pm

Brogdon's vision (or lack thereof) on the fast break, I hope, is one of the many reasons the Bucks let him walk.

agiaco · Post #238 » by **agiaco** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:04 pm

Daver wrote:
Fotis St wrote:I think Giannis was against the sign n trade of Brogdon and he just went to Lasry and said "I told you so, now what ? You gonna go cheap or will you gonna go ALL IN for a ring ? Cause I'm going ALL IN for 7 years in row... Are we on the same page ? If we are ... show me "

Man with all this garbage about brogdan you would think hes the second coming of MJ the dude didnt want to be in milwaukee and its funny nothing was said about brogdan during the season when they were racing to 70 wins.It was more like malcolm who? but crap your pants in the POs out comes damn horst you suck should of kept brogdan

I mean anyone who has even just watched some Bucks games the last couple of years would know how much having Brogdon in place of Bledsoe would have helped. Bledsoe was atrocious in the playoffs last year and he followed that up with a similarly terrible performance.

Ron Swanson · Post #239 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:28 pm

We've been over this a million times and people are still pushing their predictable Brogdon agendas. Besides the ultimate irony of him and the Pacers getting, you know, actually swept against the Heat in the previous round, you wouldn't have had Hill, or the guy that actually played the best defense on Butler all series, in Wes. We'd be in the same exact situation, except we'd be facing the repeater tax a year earlier.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #240 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:36 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:We've been over this a million times and people are still pushing their predictable Brogdon agendas. Besides the ultimate irony of him and the Pacers getting, you know, actually swept against the Heat in the previous round, you wouldn't have had Hill, or the guy that actually played the best defense on Butler all series, in Wes. We'd be in the same exact situation, except we'd be facing the repeater tax a year earlier.

Probably unlikely, but wonder what the market for Wes would've been and if he still would've joined us. He may not have been guaranteed a starting role but the minutes would still be there on a contender. If we didn't have Hill, Wes probably has the same minutes. Maybe less min for Patty C or Korver (if on the team)