2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

[Jedzz]

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6'3"
225 lbs

Where did you get the 6'3" from. I've never heard anything less than 6'5".

nba.com draft profile lists 6'3", NBA advanced stats Anthony Edwards profile dated Jun 2020
https://stats.nba.com/articles/2020-nba-draft-profile-anthony-edwards/

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6'3"
225 lbs

Georgia

19.1 ppg 5.2 rebs 2.8 asts

FG% 40.2
3pt% 29.4

Where did you get the 6'3" from. I've never heard anything less than 6'5".

That was listed on the draft express on ESPN.

All listings in the NBA are now without shoes. So Edwards is 6’3 without shoes, and probably 6’5 with shoes.

Just like how Towns use to be 7’0, he’s now listed at 6’11.

I just went to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4594268/anthony-edwards
So they are conflicting with themselves. Whoever started the lame giving heights in shoes thing should be given 20 lashes. Now the guideline is to give real heights, but it's just a guideline. I'm going with 6'5" for Edwards until I got solid proof of less. He's a big SG.

[UnFadeable21]

Where did you get the 6'3" from. I've never heard anything less than 6'5".

That was listed on the draft express on ESPN.

All listings in the NBA are now without shoes. So Edwards is 6’3 without shoes, and probably 6’5 with shoes.

Just like how Towns use to be 7’0, he’s now listed at 6’11.

I just went to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4594268/anthony-edwards
So they are conflicting with themselves. Whoever started the lame giving heights in shoes thing should be given 20 lashes. Now the guideline is to give real heights, but it's just a guideline. I'm going with 6'5" for Edwards until I got solid proof of less. He's a big SG.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

Right here at the draft page, click on Edwards. It says 6’3

6’3 is his height without shoes

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ESPN DRAFT EXPRESS Lamelo Ball Scouting Report


LaMelo Ball

6'7"190 lbs USA

NBL Rookie of the Year

17 ppg, 7.5 rebs, 7 asts, 2.5 stls

Went from 5'11 to 6'7 in two years.

This guy is the pick. Can’t believe so many of you guys can’t see it.

I hope you meant that sarcastically.

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LaMelo Ball has the most star potential in the NBA draft - DRAFT EXPRESS


No I’m not kidding. He has elite skills.

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This guy is the pick. Can’t believe so many of you guys can’t see it.

I hope you meant that sarcastically.

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No I’m not kidding. He has elite skills.

I'm very sorry to hear you think that. He's a very good ball handler and rebounds well for the PG positions. That's it for the positives. The rest of his game is pretty much all negative. This includes the most broken shot I have ever seen on a highly regarded draft prospect. I would not take him in the top ten myself.

[KGdaBom]

That was listed on the draft express on ESPN.

All listings in the NBA are now without shoes. So Edwards is 6’3 without shoes, and probably 6’5 with shoes.

Just like how Towns use to be 7’0, he’s now listed at 6’11.

I just went to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4594268/anthony-edwards
So they are conflicting with themselves. Whoever started the lame giving heights in shoes thing should be given 20 lashes. Now the guideline is to give real heights, but it's just a guideline. I'm going with 6'5" for Edwards until I got solid proof of less. He's a big SG.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

Right here at the draft page, click on Edwards. It says 6’3

6’3 is his height without shoes

That's one report. Click on mine and you'll see a different report. Neither of those reports declare shoes on or not. Very few basketball shoes make a 2 inch difference in heights. 1.25 to 1.5 is the norm. So I'm just not going to believe anything I'm told about his height because they are all fabrications.

[Jedzz]

Projected role: Franchise point guard

This guy is the pick. Can’t believe so many of you guys can’t see it.

I have not been positive about this one at the top of draft at all.

[UnFadeable21]

I just went to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4594268/anthony-edwards
So they are conflicting with themselves. Whoever started the lame giving heights in shoes thing should be given 20 lashes. Now the guideline is to give real heights, but it's just a guideline. I'm going with 6'5" for Edwards until I got solid proof of less. He's a big SG.

https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

Right here at the draft page, click on Edwards. It says 6’3

6’3 is his height without shoes

That's one report. Click on mine and you'll see a different report. Neither of those reports declare shoes on or not. Very few basketball shoes make a 2 inch difference in heights. 1.25 to 1.5 is the norm. So I'm just not going to believe anything I'm told about his height because they are all fabrications.

Well the Nba, you know who runs the the official draft, has him listed at 6’3.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2020/prospects/atnhony-edwards#/

[Jedzz]

If the wolves plan to draft Anthony Edwards, can someone explain the difference between Beasley and Edwards. Aren't they the same guy except Beasley is more proven?

not really

Beasley is more of a JJ Redick type so far in his career, good shooter given space, off of screens but cringe worthy when trying to create

Edwards from Sam Vecenie

Many think he clearly has the highest upside in the draft due to his physical tools. Indeed, Edwards is 6-foot-5, 225 pounds and has a lightning-quick first step off the bounce that allows him to blow by defenders with ease. He transitions speed to powerful explosiveness better than any other prospect in this class, which allows him to be a genuine shot-creator from all three levels.

That burst and change of speed is what makes JMac so terrific to me. That and the ability to make shots. And perfectly time passes. And slam the ball at will. He might have to train Edwards up.


Sam also said this in 2013 in his bigboard:

6. Anthony Bennett, 6'7" 240
Bennett is probably the most polished scorer in this draft,...

I'm sure I've said some things I'd take back if I even knew how wrong I was. Just look forward they say.

[Mattya]

Derrick Alston Jr

6'9" Guard?

Is this the Giannis clone?

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Looks like he has potential but his stats suggest he is pretty much the opposite of a Giannis type player. Good shooting percentages, but poor rebounding, blocks, steals, assists and turnovers. I’d have to see more of his defensive ability.

[Jedzz]

Derrick Alston Jr

6'9" Guard?

Is this the Giannis clone?

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Looks like he has potential but his stats suggest he is pretty much the opposite of a Giannis type player. Good shooting percentages, but poor rebounding, blocks, steals, assists and turnovers. I’d have to see more of his defensive ability.

Obviously Giannis can't hit deep threes like this either. But for a 6'9 player to have guard skills. Could make an impressive wing. I think that video shows a few nice blocks. There are a number of game videos on youtube. High scoring could have been what they were asking from him.

He might be worth digging more into to see what you can find. Here is a story of his NBA ball boy beginnings I guess. He's been around the game a while.
https://magicvalley.com/sports/college/bsu/from-nba-ball-boy-to-nba-prospect-the-remarkable-story-of-boise-state-s-alston/article_918c43ee-70ec-5fc8-a69e-4330f1cb91bd.html

[KG_And1]

Give me Wiseman.

I’m confident enough with Beasley/Okogie at the 2. We need some damn defense and I’ve always been one to think that KAT is a 4 and strongly believe he would feast on opposing fours.

Wiseman is the only one I’m interested in. If we’re not grabbing him - trade the pick with any combination of Beasley/Culver/future picks for Booker/Simmons.

[minimus]

After watching Hayes video scouting reports, I have one serious question. I think that Hayes closest comparison are not D’Angelo Russell, Manu Ginobili. I think his closest comparison is Jamal Murray: similar measurements, similar skillset. Would you draft Hayes at #1, if he develops into next Jamal Murray? Personally, I'd love to trade down to 3-4 get additional assets and draft Hayes.

I think similar to Murray he needs to develop his slashing game, especially finishing with his weak right hand. But I see star potential in Killian.

[Klomp]

If Toppin is looked at solely as a big (ergo, a center), people are probably right to look down on him and his prospects here in Minnesota. But if there is belief he could play a role more similar to Hernangomez, I think people should be taking him more seriously than dropping him out of the Top 10 in the consensus big board.

I am okay with Toppin as mid lottery pick (which is exactly where Juancho was drafted), but top10 means high potential and I just dont see. I struggle to find any valid comparison for Toppin from the list of players in playoffs. Tobias Harris? Drafting Juancho in top10 is not the best tactic. DEN drafted MPJ, MIL drafted Giannis around that pick. You go for BPA or you lose.

Each draft should be counted on its own merit. Not every draft are you going to get the same level of player at a specific pick. Would you wait until the fourth pick in this year's draft to draft Chris Bosh because he was only the fourth player drafted in the 2003 class?

[Battletrigger]

Ball has alway been a good rebounder and good a gambling for steals. As he continued to show in Australia which probably isn’t as bad as you think.

Well, I don't know where are you from, but I am not American, where I live there are a pro basket team in a better league than Australian one and it sucks if you compare it with NBA.

And before the Australian league where he played? The Lithuanian one? Come on.

I will give him credit if he would had played in Real Madrid, Barcelona or European teams like that, not hiding in low level leagues to show some stats and highlight against semipro opponents.

I prefer to bring Campazzo to the NBA and draft Edward's or Wiseman.

Of course the league sucks in comparison to the NBA. Every league sucks in comparison to the NBA.

My point is very clear, only have to read the whole text.

[KGdaBom]

After watching Hayes video scouting reports, I have one serious question. I think that Hayes closest comparison are not D’Angelo Russell, Manu Ginobili. I think his closest comparison is Jamal Murray: similar measurements, similar skillset. Would you draft Hayes at #1, if he develops into next Jamal Murray? Personally, I'd love to trade down to 3-4 get additional assets and draft Hayes.

I think similar to Murray he needs to develop his slashing game, especially finishing with his weak right hand. But I see star potential in Killian.

Hayes isn't a good shooter. I would think that would be the first requirement for a Murray comp.

[minimus]

After watching Hayes video scouting reports, I have one serious question. I think that Hayes closest comparison are not D’Angelo Russell, Manu Ginobili. I think his closest comparison is Jamal Murray: similar measurements, similar skillset. Would you draft Hayes at #1, if he develops into next Jamal Murray? Personally, I'd love to trade down to 3-4 get additional assets and draft Hayes.

I think similar to Murray he needs to develop his slashing game, especially finishing with his weak right hand. But I see star potential in Killian.

Hayes isn't a good shooter. I would think that would be the first requirement for a Murray comp.

It looks like in KU Murray played off the ball, while Hayes played the main team ballhandler in BBL. This might affect the shooting percentage. I'd rather look FT%, shooting form, footwork, confidence.

[minimus]

If Toppin is looked at solely as a big (ergo, a center), people are probably right to look down on him and his prospects here in Minnesota. But if there is belief he could play a role more similar to Hernangomez, I think people should be taking him more seriously than dropping him out of the Top 10 in the consensus big board.

I am okay with Toppin as mid lottery pick (which is exactly where Juancho was drafted), but top10 means high potential and I just dont see. I struggle to find any valid comparison for Toppin from the list of players in playoffs. Tobias Harris? Drafting Juancho in top10 is not the best tactic. DEN drafted MPJ, MIL drafted Giannis around that pick. You go for BPA or you lose.

Each draft should be counted on its own merit. Not every draft are you going to get the same level of player at a specific pick. Would you wait until the fourth pick in this year's draft to draft Chris Bosh because he was only the fourth player drafted in the 2003 class?

Agree. Let me give another NBA comparison for Toppin: Dwight Harlan Powell. Toppin is a bit smaller, but they have similar athleticism, decent jumpshot. I think in this role Toppin can succeed: mobile faceup bigman, rim runner, can provide some rim protection, scoring punch from the bench. But again, my main concern is that Toppin is older than other prospects, in Dayton he played as a bigman and he was bigger, faster than opponents. I just don't see how his skills will translate him into modern PF. He is more a С to me.

[Klomp]

But again, my main concern is that Toppin is older than other prospects, in Dayton he played as a bigman and he was bigger, faster than opponents. I just don't see how his skills will translate him into modern PF. He is more a С to me.

I disagree. I think he's only scratching the surface. Offensively, I feel like he's Aaron Gordon with a jump shot. Those types of athletic traits plus his decent skill level would translate just fine to the PF in Minnesota's system.

I don't think most people know Obi's basketball roots. I know I didn't before just now.

From a young age, Obadiah gained local fame for his acrobatic dunking ability. He earned the nickname “Dunkers Delight.” He tried to go the college route, starting off at Eastern Oklahoma State. But for a kid who grew up on the streets of Brooklyn, “a classroom in rural Oklahoma wasn’t his forte,” Roni says.

Obadiah returned home and played for now-defunct Globe Tech in Manhattan. He averaged 23.5 points one season, which was fifth nationally in the junior college ranks. He’d make the all-star team with the ABA’s Harlem Strong Dogs and ramble around other minor league outposts. But he was most at home on the streetball scene. Dunkers Delight was best observed in the wild, at Rucker or Dyckman parks or wherever else people valued flair over fundamentals.

“He was the best player out there at every single park,” says Obi, whom Roni brought to as many of Obadiah’s shows as possible. “He had that swagger about him. He was like, nobody on this court can guard me, and nobody is going to score on me. Everybody knew who he was.”

Sure, he never made it big in college or in the pros. But game recognizes game. Obadiah was so legendary on the blacktop that he was cast in this 2006 Gatorade commercial, which featured Vince Carter, Dwyane Wade and Ben Wallace playing shirts and skins versus playground stars. Obadiah’s face is the first you see in the ad.

https://theathletic.com/1580753/2020/02/04/obi-toppin-college-basketball-dayton-flyers-dunks-player-of-year-draft

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[Klomp]

We need to draft Toppin for the inevitable Obi Juan Okogie memes from the TimberTrolls