The 2019-20 All-NBA Team!

Spintown · Post #101 » by **Spintown** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:52 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Spintown wrote:Lets see if Jokic can prove he deserves the spot over AD next round

Oh does Jokic get to play alongside LeBron next round as well?

No but he can definitely outplay AD to prove he is better

Post #102 » by **Duffman100** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:52 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
mademan wrote:
timO wrote:
27-8-7

vs

19-5-7

now include efficiency, defense and not causing your team to go all small to compensate for your complete lack of shooting. Bonus points for not completely wrecking your teams future

the only thing Lowry has over him is TS%, eFG%. Westbrook PER 21, Lowry 17. Both are average defenders. So Westbrook dominates in points, rebs, assists and PER. And Lowry in the shooting stats. so basically Lowry is a better shooter, Westbrook is better at everything else. both are average defenders.

lowry is not an average defender.

Johnny Tomala · Post #103 » by **Johnny Tomala** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:52 pm

I had Embiid over Gobert and Beal over Simmons when I posted my All-NBA teams. I didn't have Middleton, Lowry.

I'm happy Lowry and Middleton didn't make any All-NBA teams.

Post #104 » by **loserX** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:52 pm

As much as I'm happy for Gobert, I'm not sure how he got a *first* team vote this year. Third team I'm fine with, even with the cloudiness around AD's position.

timO · Post #105 » by **timO** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:54 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
mademan wrote:
timO wrote:
27-8-7

vs

19-5-7

now include efficiency, defense and not causing your team to go all small to compensate for your complete lack of shooting. Bonus points for not completely wrecking your teams future

the only thing Lowry has over him is TS%, eFG%. Westbrook PER 21, Lowry 17. Both are average defenders. So Westbrook dominates in points, rebs, assists and PER. And Lowry in the shooting stats. so basically Lowry is a better shooter, Westbrook is better at everything else. both are average defenders.

TS

Russ 47,2% FG

Lowry 41,6% FG

DS17 · Post #106 » by **DS17** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:55 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:Swap AD and Jokic.
Swap Tatum and Siakam.
Replace Westbrook with Lowry or Kemba.

No, don't swap Jokic for AD.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #107 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:55 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
mademan wrote:
now include efficiency, defense and not causing your team to go all small to compensate for your complete lack of shooting. Bonus points for not completely wrecking your teams future

the only thing Lowry has over him is TS%, eFG%. Westbrook PER 21, Lowry 17. Both are average defenders. So Westbrook dominates in points, rebs, assists and PER. And Lowry in the shooting stats. so basically Lowry is a better shooter, Westbrook is better at everything else. both are average defenders.

lowry is not an average defender.

okay, below average. i was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Post #108 » by **Duffman100** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:55 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
the only thing Lowry has over him is TS%, eFG%. Westbrook PER 21, Lowry 17. Both are average defenders. So Westbrook dominates in points, rebs, assists and PER. And Lowry in the shooting stats. so basically Lowry is a better shooter, Westbrook is better at everything else. both are average defenders.

lowry is not an average defender.

okay, below average. i was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

If you honestly think Lowry is anything but a good to great defender, I have no idea what to say.

Dutchball97 · Post #109 » by **Dutchball97** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:57 pm

I didn't even have Siakam, Simmons and Westbrook making it, with Middleton, Lowry and Embiid instead.

phanman · Post #110 » by **phanman** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:57 pm

Really good teams, but Lowry deserves it over Simmons or Westbrook. Tatum and Butler deserve second team over Pascal who should be third.

Post #111 » by **THE J0KER** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:57 pm

Spintown wrote:Lets see if Jokic can prove he deserves the spot over AD next round

The first few seconds will be enough for estimation. If Lakers start the first game with McGee, it is clear that AD is forward, while if they start with M.Morris, it means AD basic spot is really center.

Post #112 » by **Feed Your Head** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:57 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
lowry is not an average defender.

okay, below average. i was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

If you honestly think Lowry is anything but a good to great defender, I have no idea what to say.

Certain arguments aren’t worth it.

mademan · Post #113 » by **mademan** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:58 pm

timO wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
mademan wrote:
now include efficiency, defense and not causing your team to go all small to compensate for your complete lack of shooting. Bonus points for not completely wrecking your teams future

the only thing Lowry has over him is TS%, eFG%. Westbrook PER 21, Lowry 17. Both are average defenders. So Westbrook dominates in points, rebs, assists and PER. And Lowry in the shooting stats. so basically Lowry is a better shooter, Westbrook is better at everything else. both are average defenders.

TS

Russ 47,2% FG

Lowry 41,6% FG

one of them actually shoots and hits 3's. 59 TS% vs 53.6, lmao.

And Lowry is a top tier defender at the PG spot and Westbrook, at his best, doesnt hurt you too bad.

hoosierdaddy34 · Post #114 » by **hoosierdaddy34** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:58 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Spintown wrote:Lets see if Jokic can prove he deserves the spot over AD next round

Oh does Jokic get to play alongside LeBron next round as well?

Wait, I keep getting told that Jamal Murray is a superstar and that the Nuggets have a much deeper team by Nuggets fans.

Post #115 » by **Duffman100** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:59 pm

The Comedian wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
okay, below average. i was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

If you honestly think Lowry is anything but a good to great defender, I have no idea what to say.

Certain arguments aren’t worth it.

It's just so hard when it's so ignorant.

NY 567 · Post #116 » by **NY 567** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:59 pm

Spintown wrote:Lets see if Jokic can prove he deserves the spot over AD next round

It doesn't work that way. It's Jokic vs LeBron. You can't say that back in the day Tony Parker was better than Steve Nash because the Spurs beat the Suns, that was Duncans team.

Raps in 4 · Post #117 » by **Raps in 4** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:59 pm

DS17 wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:Swap AD and Jokic.
Swap Tatum and Siakam.
Replace Westbrook with Lowry or Kemba.

No, don't swap Jokic for AD.

Why not? Jokic is better.

Spintown · Post #118 » by **Spintown** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:00 pm

NY 567 wrote:
Spintown wrote:Lets see if Jokic can prove he deserves the spot over AD next round

It doesn't work that way. It's Jokic vs LeBron. You can't say that back in the day Tony Parker was better than Steve Nash because the Spurs beat the Suns, that was Duncans team.

Well if AD outplays Jokic does it really matter whose team it is?

Post #119 » by **Feed Your Head** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:00 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
If you honestly think Lowry is anything but a good to great defender, I have no idea what to say.

Certain arguments aren’t worth it.

It's just so hard when it's so ignorant.

I can’t help myself for the most part, so now I just put my phone in the other room lol.

FinnTheHuman · Post #120 » by **FinnTheHuman** » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:02 pm

Davis basically says "screw it I don't wanna fight in the post with the big guys, I don't wanna expend the energy in the RS that the C position requires and I'm not gonna risk an injury, so play me only at PF, Frank" and he gets awarded by getting 1st all nba team center. Wouldn't ever wana shake hands with anybody involved in this vote AD 1st team center charade.