NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Angryfatboy wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
You're asking a weird question, because there's only been 3 drafts since Brown was taken, and truth be told RJ falls into a similar category as Brown. A plus athlete with a good handle for his size who had a shakey shot and poor freethrow, but the intangibles to be better and dynamic are there. Is Okoro as good of a prospect as RJ, no, but there is some similarity in that if he can learn to shoot there is a lot to work with there, and while you see him getting to the line more than Vassell as a negative, I see it as a plus since he attacks the rim and draws contact.
I don't care about catch and shoot from a wing right now, you're stuck with an ideology that should be reserved for winning teams looking for their 3rd or 4th guy on a value contract. You do not take the type of wing Vassell is projected of being that early in the draft, you look for players who have the potential to be dynamic. You would think that people would watch these playoffs and learn from them, but apparently not, all the switching taking place now will lead to wings needing to be able to do more than just catch and shoot eventually. You never addressed the fact that none of the players who are 3 & D wings left in the playoffs were lottery picks, not a single one of them, all of these winning teams and the highest picked 3 & D guy is Gary Harris at 19, the rest are 2nd rounders or were undrafted
Mikal shot 43% this year as a starter at forward, so looks like there's correlation between freethrow shooting. He also shot better last year as a starting forward, he hit 35%, he is the quintessential 3 & D wing, he plays his best when you have him with starters who can make up for his lack of shot creation. This is my point with Vassell and why I don't want him, we still need more dynamic players, there will be a "Vassell" type guy in next years draft, because these types of players are now the lowest hanging fruit, they are the "rim runners" of the wing that every guy who doesn't have a ton of offensive skill can aspire to be. Taking a Mikal means you passed on a MPJ or Shai, and that will definitely be the case for a team taking Vassell, there will be someone taken after him that is more dynamic.
A wing that can shoot from anywhere on the floor and defend is to high for 8? In a weak draft? (Not that I think that’s all he’s going to be able to do) he’s shown he can pull up and score off the dribble. I think there’s more to explore there in his game.
To each his own I don’t feel a player who’s invisible on the Perimeter nor a playmaker is a home run pick either. I have more faith in vassell being a versatile perimeter shooter than okoro becoming Jalen brown or jimmy butler
The shooting may not be real, which is the point, you're left with a very limited player if it's not. The hope is he can make the 3 at a good clip, if he can't then you have Tony Snell I find it interesting that you did point out that Mikal who was a better shooter in college on a much higher volume still struggled to find his shot in the NBA, but think it's a given that Vassell is going to be a shooter right away? Why is there such certainty that he can actually shoot? Why is the floor for him to just assume he's Mikal Bridges?
This isn't just about Okoro, I like a few players more than Vassell. I would take Patrick Williams over him, showed more flashes on the ball, got to the line more despite playing less and already has an NBA body, plus he shot 83% from the line.
I still don’t see how the shooting wouldn’t be real he’s one of the best shooters in the draft. You won’t find any scouting report that’s going to point that out as weakness. Even his rookie season on even lower attempt rates he was still 41% Theres always been indication he can shoot. It’s not out of the Norm for a young player to not be excellent from the line if they aren’t accustomed to being there. And FT shooting is nothing that cant be improved
I brung up Mikal to show just because your free throw shooting is on point doesn’t make you some kind of sniper Which you seem to be indicating. it’s a good breeding ground to know where a player might stand as a shooter but it’s not going to completely define the players shooting ability. Bruce Bowen was a straight garbage free throw shooter still hitting 42% from behind the arc.
Okoro is 28% from 3, 67% from the line. If your questioning vassells shooting at 42% from 3 and 73% from the line on less free throw attempts you must have zero faith in okoro ever being a good shooter by your logic. and his hope is he becomes a ben Simmons level playmaker if your being drafted 8 and have no offensive game other than being a defensive bowing ball