Papi_swav wrote:vincecarter4pres wrote:Papi_swav wrote:We atleast need a center coming back or their 13th pick especially if we're adding Allen and a future 1st. They don't even want their 13th pick anyway.
Nets have to add Prince anyway because the salary does not match. Jrue is making 26M per, Allen and Din equals to 15M. So if it's Din, Allen, Prince, Musa, future 1st , then we should atleast get back Jrue and Hart or Jaxson Hayes along with their 13th pick. That should be a fair trade.
I don't see it Swav. Prince is a negative, not a positive asset who creates a need for them to incentivize the offer with the 13.
In fact I feel like this might become a 3 or 4 team offer with Allen and/or Dinwiddie going elsewhere to provide either more assets for New Orleans in the form of picks or players on rookie scale, or one established player coming back to them whose team doesn't want Jrue in exchange for said player, and who either we prefer Jrue to, or don't have the package to get.
I could see something somewhat complex, where they combine some of their assets like the 13 and Ball, with Allen and the teen's 1st they get for Dinwiddie, and the better of our future 1st and their's of that draft, sent to Chicago for LaVine.
It's not about Prince impact, if we're trading for Jrue we need Prince's contract to match salary, it's that simple. There are teams that will trade for Prince straight up, he does not have a negative value, he is slightly overpaid but it's nothing serious. The positive value is coming from Dinwiddie, Allen and the future 1st, forget about Prince for now.
I can also see a 3 team trade as well but I hope we get back more than just Jrue.
It doesn't have to be Prince.
It can be Dinwiddie/Allen/Musa/Temple to match. In fact, technically Musa doesn't even need to be in there for it to be legal.
And I think there could be some teams interested on Prince, but not for any value, even on court. It's going to be another guy coming off a bad year, with big flaws, on a similar contract, or a so-so player on expiring they can't find minutes for, who they're likely to lose anyway and they're willing to take a flyer on Prince and his one extra season.
And yes, that positive value you mention of Dinwiddie, Allen, likely heavily protected '21 1st is exactly what lands you Jrue before you start adding necessary salary filler. Maybe they add a Hart for Rodi swap in there, that should still work with salary matching, but I don't see how we get back the 13, unless it's something where we throw in the 19 and Claxton to move up 6 spots.
If Marks somehow turns Dinwiddie/Allen/Prince/future protected 1st into Jrue/anything else/13 without adding the 19, additional future picks, or Claxton, I will eat my proverbial hat lol.