The Rebel wrote:manchambo wrote:The Rebel wrote:
Sorry but Malone was clearly outcoached by Pop, we had a clear advantage on talent, there is no reason that series should have went to 7 games other than Pop exploited every weakness we had while we struggled to take advantage of their weaknesses at all and just used our superior talent to win games.
For that matter I think he got out coached by Snyder as well. The huge adjustment that Malone made was to stop calling the same play over and over again, and of course Harris getting healthy, but he did not come up with any adjustments on defense that worked.
I like the idea of all 3 of those, although Budinger is probably my last choice of the 3, he has the same issue as Malone as sticking with his system and refusing to make adjustments off of it. The difference is that Budinger does seem to get every bit of talent out of his guys while I cannot say the same for Malone.
The Kroenke's have always said that they would pay for a contender, but I also remember there was an insider that used to post here that flat said Stan does not think the coach makes a huge difference and did not want the coach to be the star of the team. So I doubt he would get Pop or Chauncey, because if we are realistic both of those guys have bigger names than anybody associated with the Nuggets right now.
Fact is despite his idiot statements at his press conference, MPJ along with Jokic and Murray should make this team a true contender. With the right pieces around them we can win a championhsip, but those pieces include the right coach.
I actually think Popovich would be the perfect hire, he knows how to adjust his schemes to his roster, he knows how to get every bit of talent out of guys, and he loves Jokic and murray. I don't think Stan should give a crap what it cost as I think Pop could make this team a contender. A championship means a lot of money now and in the future for a franchise.
I would settle for Chauncey as he proved during his career that he knows how to play different ways and I am sure he understands different systems that would work for our team. Plus he has worked with Murray and Morris both in the past and has played a part in their growth.
My 3rd choice would be Becky Hammond, she has worked her way up Pop's staff to being a top assistant, and has a hell of a career as a player. I think it would be an interesting choice, but I would give her a chance.
I would also still give Melvin Hunt a chance, he got a team with nothing to play for to give everything they had and win games despite being forced to sit 3 rotation players every night. He understood how to help them succeed, plus he has been a top assistant with some very good coaches.
That being said, I just do not see them firing Malone. He met expectations this year, and with the injuries and MPJ being so young he will likely get another year. I think the Shawful mess scared the hell out of Connelly and Josh Kroenke, I think they are okay with 2nd round exits right now as opposed to another mess with a bad coach.
If we're going to fire coaches for getting "out-coached" in the playoff series they win, we're not going to keep coaches very long.
We're talking about a guy who took a baby team to the brink of WCF last year. Looks like we will not come quite so close this year, but in all honesty LAC is a much better team than POR, maybe the best team in the league.
WCF would have been a success this year. Losing in the 1st round would have been a big failure. Looks like we're going to wind up somewhere in the middle of that. I don't see why you would even consider firing a coach who has developed this team from nothing at this point. He is a young coach with a young team, and he's learning too. And what I see happening in the games they're losing, especially game 7 last yr. vs. Por, and game 3 the other night, is young players not making shots down the stretch. I don't know what coaching Malone can do to make Grant, Craig, Harris, and in the last few games Murray, hit wide open shots.
If your coach is being outcoached in every series he is in and winning purely on talent than the coach deserves to be fired.
The brink of the WCF happened because we had a superstar putting up historical great numbers and carrying the team through the playoffs.
Development and winning are 2 very different things, there are a lot of teams that need Malone, but he does not know how to win in the NBA.
FAct is Malone is not learning, he is doing the same thing this year as he did last year, which is calling the JOkic and Murray pick and roll until the series is almost over and then stop calling plays long enough for the Nuggets talent to actually take over and win games. This time it may not work though as the Clippers are too talented to go down 3-1 and still hope to win the series.
First, you're getting down to style points when you're complaining about how they win.
Second, I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Game 3 of this series Denver had every opportunity to win. They had open shots throughout the 4th quarter that they did not hit. That's execution, not coaching. Although my memory of game 7 vs. POR is a bitty fuzzier, my recollection is that exactly the same thing happened--the offensive scheme developed enough opportunities to win but the shots were not hit.
A big part of that is experience--this team still has relatively limited playoff experience. They haven't played dozens of playoff games like Kawhi, PG, and people on virtually every team still in the playoffs.
I think it's also personnel--they need to find the one or two guys who will be deadly from 3 in order to make this offense unstoppable. In the last couple of games the Clips were able to aggressively double Jokic and Murray because Denver couldn't make them pay for it in 4th quarter by kicking the ball out.