[UTA/MIL/MIN/GSW/ATL/DET] Utah creates the largest TPE in NBA history

[babyjax13]

Trade 1:
Utah trades: Mike Conley, Ed Davis, cash, 2022 UTA 2nd, 2024 CLE 2nd
Utah receives: Ersan Ilyasova
Utah generates about a $32 million TPE and adds a nice stretch 4 who can rebound. This really depends on what we could do with the TPE, because Conley is a solid player, but with the falling cap something like this might allow us to keep Clarkson, and work out a sign and trade for someone like Gallo at minimal cost, and still have enough savings left over to use the MLE (the same is probably true without the ATL/DET parts, but I added those more to take the concept to its extreme).

Milwaukee trades: Eric Bledsoe, Ersan Ilyasova, DJ Wilson
Milwaukee receives: Mike Conley
Milwaukee gets a scoring point guard to balance their starting lineup. Debated to death, Milwaukee fans seem to think it's at least worth thinking about.

Minnesota trades: James Johnson, 2020 MIN 2nd (33), 2022 MIN 2nd, cash
Minnesota receives: Eric Bledsoe
Minnesota adds an elite perimeter defender at the cost of some second round picks and cash. A similar trade has been debated before, Minnesota fans seem divided on it. This one doesn't have the psychological hit of moving down from 17 to say 25, so it might have a better reception?

Golden State trades: nada
Golden State receives: James Johnson, 2020 MIN 2nd (33)
Golden State retains some salary ballast for a future trade, and adds another rookie. This is obviously if they can't quite find something to do with the TPE, or decide that they'll wait till the deadline to see who becomes available.

Detroit trades: nada
Detroit receives: DJ Wilson, 2022 MIN 2nd, cash
Detroit gets a nearly free look at Wilson and a second.

Atlanta trades: nada
Atlanta receives: Ed Davis cash, 2022 UTA 2nd, 2024 CLE 2nd
Atlanta gets some seconds and cash for taking Ed Davis' contract. Davis was an important voice in Utah's lockerroom, so he can at least be a nice veteran presence.

[vxmike]

GSW isn’t going to take a huge dead salary into the TPE for a lousy 2nd. Tons of teams will be desperate to dump salary this offseason.

[babyjax13]

GSW isn’t going to take a huge dead salary into the TPE for a lousy 2nd. Tons of teams will be desperate to dump salary this offseason.

If they can't attach picks to Wiggins for a star they will because it allows them to move expirings in a trade. e.g. if you are Washington and you are offered Wiggins + 2 + 2021 MIN 1st or Johnson + Looney + player drafted 2nd + 2021 MIN 1st for Beal, which one sounds better? And it's not like Johnson is a terrible player, he'd contribute useful minutes to Golden State, he's just obviously overpaid. Maybe some additional value needs to come from somewhere, but I doubt it's a ton.

[skones]

Sure.

[Coxy]

I’m a JJ fan, and I don’t care about Lacobs pockets so I’m all good with this deal for GS.

[NuggetsWY]

Oh my goodness; what a massive trade - I have trouble coming up with a two-team trade that I approve of and then I see this and wonder? I'm just going to look at each team - but I am surely impressed and before making my analysis, my first impression is this just might work.

Utah? Yes. I love Conley and expect he'll be better next year if he stays in Utah, but Ilyasova looks like a perfect fit.

Milwaukee? Probably. It seems like a bit of a risky step for the Bucks, but the fit seems great.

Minnesota? Absolutely. I'm a huge James Johnson fan (and not just because he's from my town). I love him off the bench at either forward but Bledsoe is the type of player the Twolves need.

Golden State? Maybe. The 2nd isn't a big deal but Johnson seems like he'd be a nice fit.

Detroit? Sure. It doesn't seem like it will do much for the Pistons, but it certainly can't hurt.

Atlanta? Yes. It couldn't hurt and there's no real gamble.

[shrink]

Golden State trades: nada
Golden State receives: James Johnson, 2020 MIN 2nd (33)
Golden State retains some salary ballast for a future trade, and adds another rookie. This is obviously if they can't quite find something to do with the TPE, or decide that they'll wait till the deadline to see who becomes available.

As I was saying in your other thread, Johnson’s expiring may be more valuable to GSW than the TPE, because he can be used to bring back a player 125% + $100k of his salary, and possibly aggregate with other salaries. This new price point unlocks a lot of quality players that make a little too much to fit in the Iguodala TPE. I think they definitely say yes, and have another deal lined up once they do.

(Btw, I’m still not a fan of Bledsoe in MIN because Rosas is trying to line up players that are on Towns timeline, and Rosas evaluates all players as possible future trade chips, and few teams would be interested in Bledsoe’s multi-year deal. I agree his skillset fits, so it’s not inconceivable Rosas would say yes)

Awesome trade, btw!

[vxmike]

GSW isn’t going to take a huge dead salary into the TPE for a lousy 2nd. Tons of teams will be desperate to dump salary this offseason.

If they can't attach picks to Wiggins for a star they will because it allows them to move expirings in a trade. e.g. if you are Washington and you are offered Wiggins + 2 + 2021 MIN 1st or Johnson + Looney + player drafted 2nd + 2021 MIN 1st for Beal, which one sounds better? And it's not like Johnson is a terrible player, he'd contribute useful minutes to Golden State, he's just obviously overpaid. Maybe some additional value needs to come from somewhere, but I doubt it's a ton.

Oh I agree it’s likely they’ll take a bad expiring contract into the TPE if they can’t get an impact player into it, but they won’t do it for a 2nd. They’ll easily get a FRP if not more. Teams will be desperate to dump salary this summer to both avoid paying tax and be on the receiving end of tax payments especially if the cap goes way down.

WAS will get much better offers for Beal though

[Nate the Great]

The Warriors would have to convince their investors before trading for anybody with the TPE. Johnson is a mediocre journeyman. There’s no chance the Warriors spend that much money for a player like that.

[DetroitDon15]

Wilson has no value. There is no need for wasting cap space to add seconds. The Pistons will look to bigger deals for first rounders. No need to commit to deals that have no long term future for them. Easy pass.