Raps 2020 Picks (Prospect Watch, Update: Vecenie Mock Released)

casual_raps_fan · Post #2561 » by **casual_raps_fan** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:32 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:I wouldn't mind Joe at 29. 6'5 with a 6'10 wingspan, pure shot on high volume and decent defensively. People forget we likely lose 2 of Lowry/FVV/Powell by 2021 to free agency and/or retirement. That likely leaves us with Davis and Fred and not much else at guard.

Might be early but I’m pretty convinced Matt Thomas is a long term rotation guy for us now

Yeah. The playoff rotations showed that Nurse has trust in Thomas and is ready to work with him as a regular rotation player next season.

Same cannot be said for TD.

casual_raps_fan · Post #2562 » by **casual_raps_fan** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:43 am

Indeed wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:I wouldn't mind Joe at 29. 6'5 with a 6'10 wingspan, pure shot on high volume and decent defensively. People forget we likely lose 2 of Lowry/FVV/Powell by 2021 to free agency and/or retirement. That likely leaves us with Davis and Fred and not much else at guard.

Might be early but I’m pretty convinced Matt Thomas is a long term rotation guy for us now

I also think Watson will play as a guard, so you got VanVleet/Davis/Watson/Thomas, and by then we shall have another lengthy guard from G-League. As we saw Brown who is SF in size and play SG, we probably need someone to match him (and for going small easier as well). Which is why someone like Mane would be nice to off (undrafted?)

As a guard, Watson doesn't offer the ball handling and playmaking we are dying for (unless I am just unaware that he can do that stuff). If he does crack the rotation, it will most likely be as a sf.

Indeed · Post #2563 » by **Indeed** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:46 pm

casual_raps_fan wrote:
Indeed wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
Might be early but I’m pretty convinced Matt Thomas is a long term rotation guy for us now

I also think Watson will play as a guard, so you got VanVleet/Davis/Watson/Thomas, and by then we shall have another lengthy guard from G-League. As we saw Brown who is SF in size and play SG, we probably need someone to match him (and for going small easier as well). Which is why someone like Mane would be nice to off (undrafted?)

As a guard, Watson doesn't offer the ball handling and playmaking we are dying for (unless I am just unaware that he can do that stuff). If he does crack the rotation, it will most likely be as a sf.

Just lack of advance moves, and perhaps a consistent pull up 3 will help. Same for Davis, he couldn't get by his man due to lack of advance moves. VanVleet with cross over and shot fake, while adding change of speed and hesitation may get him to the rim. I think both Watson and Davis can improve on those area.

Psubs · Post #2564 » by **Psubs** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:47 pm

Watch on YouTube

Sooo many options at #59. Diane or Diakite for SF/PF.

Psubs · Post #2565 » by **Psubs** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:19 pm

If Terry is still there at #21 Philly, what about this?

Toronto trades: Kyle Lowry and Matt Thomas
Philadelphia trades: Al Horford and #21

Horford's passing replaces Marc's.

PG FVV - Terry - TD
SG Powell - TD - #29
SF OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - Horford
C Horford - Ibaka

Badonkadonk · Post #2566 » by **Badonkadonk** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:21 pm

There is zero chance Kyle is getting traded for Al Horford and a pick.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #2567 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:06 pm

Psubs wrote:If Terry is still there at #21 Philly, what about this?

Toronto trades: Kyle Lowry and Matt Thomas
Philadelphia trades: Al Horford and #21

Horford's passing replaces Marc's.

PG FVV - Terry - TD
SG Powell - TD - #29
SF OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - Horford
C Horford - Ibaka

Dude, you've lost it. Horford is one of the worst contracts in the league right now.

Psubs · Post #2568 » by **Psubs** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:38 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Psubs wrote:If Terry is still there at #21 Philly, what about this?

Toronto trades: Kyle Lowry and Matt Thomas
Philadelphia trades: Al Horford and #21

Horford's passing replaces Marc's.

PG FVV - Terry - TD
SG Powell - TD - #29
SF OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - Horford
C Horford - Ibaka

Dude, you've lost it. Horford is one of the worst contracts in the league right now.

Toronto trades: Kyle Lowry and Stanley Johnson
Philadelphia trades: Al Horford and #21

He seems to still be a better player than Ibaka. Bring back Kyle in 2021.

mademan · Post #2569 » by **mademan** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:16 pm

Psubs wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Psubs wrote:If Terry is still there at #21 Philly, what about this?

Toronto trades: Kyle Lowry and Matt Thomas
Philadelphia trades: Al Horford and #21

Horford's passing replaces Marc's.

PG FVV - Terry - TD
SG Powell - TD - #29
SF OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - Horford
C Horford - Ibaka

Dude, you've lost it. Horford is one of the worst contracts in the league right now.

Toronto trades: Kyle Lowry and Stanley Johnson
Philadelphia trades: Al Horford and #21

He seems to still be a better player than Ibaka. Bring back Kyle in 2021.

Thats disgusting. 21st pick to eat Horfords contract isnt enough. Trading the better player in Kyle for that privilege is ridiculous

PhilBlackson · Post #2570 » by **PhilBlackson** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:00 am

It would take at least a lottery pick to off load Horford never mind giving up the backbone of your team.

Red_Claw · Post #2571 » by **Red_Claw** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:34 am

27.5, 27.0 and 26.5 M for a 34 to 37 year old Horford.....

...incredibly dumb idea.

Indeed · Post #2572 » by **Indeed** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:46 am

Undraft prospect: Freddie Gillespie
6'9 with 7'4 wingspan (some report said 7'6 wingspan)

He is already 23, no 3 point shot attempt, shooting 68% free throw only, but good at rebounding and defense.
Not the quickest nor most explosive, but capable shot contestor with good lateral quickness with switching ability.

Watch on YouTube

_MidNight_ · Post #2573 » by **_MidNight_** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:22 am

Psubs wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Sooo many options at #59. Diane or Diakite for SF/PF.

This is the kinda player that comes out of nowhere just because he went to a smaller program.

This kid looks like he's oozing with basketball talent.

Indeed · Post #2574 » by **Indeed** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:47 am

_MidNight_ wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Sooo many options at #59. Diane or Diakite for SF/PF.

This is the kinda player that comes out of nowhere just because he went to a smaller program.

This kid looks like he's oozing with basketball talent.

Shooting is his issue, I believe. His free throw is around mid-60

Psubs · Post #2575 » by **Psubs** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:32 am

_MidNight_ wrote:
Psubs wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Sooo many options at #59. Diane or Diakite for SF/PF.

This is the kinda player that comes out of nowhere just because he went to a smaller program.

This kid looks like he's oozing with basketball talent.

He takes contact in the lane well. His moves are decisive and on defense it doesn't seem like he goes for fakes too much.

Watch on YouTube

I think he can work on his 3 as he kicks both of his feet forward and lands instead the line. He needs to jump more straight up and down.

His FT shooting, he 2 bounces then flows right into his shot. Like if the bounce isn't quite right it could throw off the shot in the slightest. He just needs a slight pause before going up for the FT.

NotMyKawhi · Post #2576 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:20 pm

Precious Achiuwa will translate to the nba! There's no player outside the lottery I want more. Rebounds at a very high level. Elite defender. He's african, I'm sure Masai loves that.

NotMyKawhi · Post #2577 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:25 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:this is our future sf

Watch on YouTube

lots of ppl switch on who they prefer but I stay consistent.

This is on the first page before college even started....This is our guy

Indeed · Post #2578 » by **Indeed** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:47 pm

Psubs wrote:
_MidNight_ wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Sooo many options at #59. Diane or Diakite for SF/PF.

This is the kinda player that comes out of nowhere just because he went to a smaller program.

This kid looks like he's oozing with basketball talent.

He takes contact in the lane well. His moves are decisive and on defense it doesn't seem like he goes for fakes too much.

I think he can work on his 3 as he kicks both of his feet forward and lands instead the line. He needs to jump more straight up and down.

His FT shooting, he 2 bounces then flows right into his shot. Like if the bounce isn't quite right it could throw off the shot in the slightest. He just needs a slight pause before going up for the FT.

Both Diane and Mane may surprised people. Not sure they will be drafted in the 1st round (end of the 1st round), but they could be higher than our 2nd round pick.

NotMyKawhi · Post #2579 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:09 pm

Psubs wrote:If Terry is still there at #21 Philly, what about this?

Toronto trades: Kyle Lowry and Matt Thomas
Philadelphia trades: Al Horford and #21

Horford's passing replaces Marc's.

PG FVV - Terry - TD
SG Powell - TD - #29
SF OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - Horford
C Horford - Ibaka

horrible idea. Trade our best player ever and a lights out shooter on a minimum contract for the worst contract in the nba who plays center? Do you work for philly?

Psubs · Post #2580 » by **Psubs** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:41 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:this is our future sf

Watch on YouTube

lots of ppl switch on who they prefer but I stay consistent.

This is on the first page before college even started....This is our guy

It might need a trade up into the late teens to get him.

Maybe our contact with Orlando at #15? :nod:

Fournier and #15 for Powell, Stanley and #59?

Fournier has a player option that he'll probably accept and wait until 2021 but there is a chance he opts out or 2020/2021. If #59 isn't enough for them, what about #29?