Hayward is the key to winning Heat/etc, but he must come off the bench

100proof · Post #81 » by **100proof** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:17 pm

https://nesn.com/2020/09/are-celtics-better-off-without-gordon-hayward-kevin-garnett-weighs-in/

“I love Gordon (Hayward) to death,” Garnett told USA Today. “I just don’t know where it fits in the growth of Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. You have a trifecta, you know? And it just looks at times like he doesn’t fit or he tries too hard. It just looks like he doesn’t fit.”

Garnett continued: “…With him out, it’s a simplicity for Marcus Smart to come in and play a certain way. It seems like a simplicity for Kemba Walker to come in and play a certain way… Tatum. It just seems like a more simplistic system when those four, or those three, are kind of working.”

“I’m no coach or anything. I’m just an observer and I’m a student of energy or chemistry. And I’m just watching how that whole dynamic looks when Gordon is off it.”

Interesting

JHTruth · Post #82 » by **JHTruth** » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:21 pm

100proof wrote:https://nesn.com/2020/09/are-celtics-better-off-without-gordon-hayward-kevin-garnett-weighs-in/

“I love Gordon (Hayward) to death,” Garnett told USA Today. “I just don’t know where it fits in the growth of Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. You have a trifecta, you know? And it just looks at times like he doesn’t fit or he tries too hard. It just looks like he doesn’t fit.”

Garnett continued: “…With him out, it’s a simplicity for Marcus Smart to come in and play a certain way. It seems like a simplicity for Kemba Walker to come in and play a certain way… Tatum. It just seems like a more simplistic system when those four, or those three, are kind of working.”

“I’m no coach or anything. I’m just an observer and I’m a student of energy or chemistry. And I’m just watching how that whole dynamic looks when Gordon is off it.”

Interesting

We've made two ECF runs without him. He's had maybe half a good season for us. I'm not sure how anyone thinks Gordon Hayward has much to offer the Cs at this point.

OldCeltics · Post #83 » by **OldCeltics** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:17 am

Ma Boiiiiiss.

Hayward just said he will most likely stay. His play making is invaluable. I don't care any more starting or not.

zoyathedestroya · Post #84 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:57 am

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Hate to call out my man, CFSB,

but he was passionately pissed about Hayward leaving the bubble early to go home. It turns out that was the right move. Had he stayed inside the bubble to rehab, he wouldn't have decided to stay on now.

Post #85 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:07 am

Hayward is the key to you guys breaking that zone consistently. He gives you guys another guy that can attack the zone off the dribble, play in the middle and catch and shoot or catch and pass it back out, or he can be a threat as a shooter. His shot was off tonight, but everything else he did was just smart winning plays.

zoyathedestroya · Post #86 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:11 am

Underrated tweet...

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Theocy · Post #87 » by **Theocy** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:47 am

JHTruth wrote:
100proof wrote:https://nesn.com/2020/09/are-celtics-better-off-without-gordon-hayward-kevin-garnett-weighs-in/

“I love Gordon (Hayward) to death,” Garnett told USA Today. “I just don’t know where it fits in the growth of Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. You have a trifecta, you know? And it just looks at times like he doesn’t fit or he tries too hard. It just looks like he doesn’t fit.”

Garnett continued: “…With him out, it’s a simplicity for Marcus Smart to come in and play a certain way. It seems like a simplicity for Kemba Walker to come in and play a certain way… Tatum. It just seems like a more simplistic system when those four, or those three, are kind of working.”

“I’m no coach or anything. I’m just an observer and I’m a student of energy or chemistry. And I’m just watching how that whole dynamic looks when Gordon is off it.”

Interesting

We've made two ECF runs without him. He's had maybe half a good season for us. I'm not sure how anyone thinks Gordon Hayward has much to offer the Cs at this point.

Hey. Not trying to be patronising here but there's a big difference between reaching the ECF and winning it all. Gordon is meant to give us that final push hopefully. Especially this year. I can see having a bigger and better version of Tatum and brown next year but now he is important

Soulcatcher33 · Post #88 » by **Soulcatcher33** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:52 am

JHTruth wrote:
100proof wrote:https://nesn.com/2020/09/are-celtics-better-off-without-gordon-hayward-kevin-garnett-weighs-in/

“I love Gordon (Hayward) to death,” Garnett told USA Today. “I just don’t know where it fits in the growth of Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. You have a trifecta, you know? And it just looks at times like he doesn’t fit or he tries too hard. It just looks like he doesn’t fit.”

Garnett continued: “…With him out, it’s a simplicity for Marcus Smart to come in and play a certain way. It seems like a simplicity for Kemba Walker to come in and play a certain way… Tatum. It just seems like a more simplistic system when those four, or those three, are kind of working.”

“I’m no coach or anything. I’m just an observer and I’m a student of energy or chemistry. And I’m just watching how that whole dynamic looks when Gordon is off it.”

Interesting

We've made two ECF runs without him. He's had maybe half a good season for us. I'm not sure how anyone thinks Gordon Hayward has much to offer the Cs at this point.

So you admit you have watched very little Celtics game this season and that you know nothing about basketball. Proceed.

Fencer reregistered · Post #89 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:30 am

Tatum seems to be going out of his way to praise Hayward's contribution to the team.

zoyathedestroya · Post #90 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:34 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:Tatum seems to be going out of his way to praise Hayward's contribution to the team.

I haven't read ALL the quotes or listened to ALL the interviews, but he seems to be the only one doing that other than Stevens of course.

Fencer reregistered · Post #91 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:45 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:Tatum seems to be going out of his way to praise Hayward's contribution to the team.

I haven't read ALL the quotes or listened to ALL the interviews, but he seems to be the only one doing that other than Stevens of course.

There simply are a lot fewer quotes and interviews that usual, because if the limited physical interaction between reporters and athletes.

Indeed, it's likely that the Tatum "trend" I highlighted was actually a single quote we've seen used in multiple articles.

100proof · Post #92 » by **100proof** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:56 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:Tatum seems to be going out of his way to praise Hayward's contribution to the team.

Working for Danny by raising that trade value. lol.

zoyathedestroya · Post #93 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:00 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:Tatum seems to be going out of his way to praise Hayward's contribution to the team.

I haven't read ALL the quotes or listened to ALL the interviews, but he seems to be the only one doing that other than Stevens of course.

There simply are a lot fewer quotes and interviews that usual, because if the limited physical interaction between reporters and athletes.

Indeed, it's likely that the Tatum "trend" I highlighted was actually a single quote we've seen used in multiple articles.

Never mind. Jaylen commented on Gordo's mustache and the positive net effect of him coming back.

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Fencer reregistered · Post #94 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:21 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:I haven't read ALL the quotes or listened to ALL the interviews, but he seems to be the only one doing that other than Stevens of course.

There simply are a lot fewer quotes and interviews that usual, because if the limited physical interaction between reporters and athletes.

Indeed, it's likely that the Tatum "trend" I highlighted was actually a single quote we've seen used in multiple articles.

Never mind. Jaylen commented on Gordo's mustache and the positive net effect of him coming back.

Watch on YouTube

Of course, he really didn't have much choice but to answer with at least that much praise.

nic4747 · Post #95 » by **nic4747** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:28 pm

It's pretty clear that Hayward/Smart/JB/JT/Kemba is our best lineup. Would you start that lineup and basically write off the tip-off? Or continue to start Theis and use the "death" lineup later?

Homerclease · Post #96 » by **Homerclease** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:46 pm

100proof wrote:https://nesn.com/2020/09/are-celtics-better-off-without-gordon-hayward-kevin-garnett-weighs-in/

“I love Gordon (Hayward) to death,” Garnett told USA Today. “I just don’t know where it fits in the growth of Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum. You have a trifecta, you know? And it just looks at times like he doesn’t fit or he tries too hard. It just looks like he doesn’t fit.”

Garnett continued: “…With him out, it’s a simplicity for Marcus Smart to come in and play a certain way. It seems like a simplicity for Kemba Walker to come in and play a certain way… Tatum. It just seems like a more simplistic system when those four, or those three, are kind of working.”

“I’m no coach or anything. I’m just an observer and I’m a student of energy or chemistry. And I’m just watching how that whole dynamic looks when Gordon is off it.”

Interesting

Garnett is way off base. Tatum/Brown/Hayward on the court together had one of the best net ratings in the entire league. Hayward makes Brown and Tatum better. He makes the Celtics better. If they aren’t moving him for the #2 overall pick then the goal this offseason should be to extend him long term

OldCeltics · Post #97 » by **OldCeltics** » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:45 am

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Ernest · Post #98 » by **Ernest** » Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:37 am

nic4747 wrote:It's pretty clear that Hayward/Smart/JB/JT/Kemba is our best lineup. Would you start that lineup and basically write off the tip-off? Or continue to start Theis and use the "death" lineup later?

I'd stay with the starting line up we have used all but game 1. Depending on matchups and how guys are playing I'd end with Hayward in for Theis.

Fouls are a big reason. Feel like you can play small for a short period of time. If we do it the whole game fouls and fatigue would become factors.

Post #99 » by **Darthlukey** » Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:04 am

Ernest wrote:
nic4747 wrote:It's pretty clear that Hayward/Smart/JB/JT/Kemba is our best lineup. Would you start that lineup and basically write off the tip-off? Or continue to start Theis and use the "death" lineup later?

I'd stay with the starting line up we have used all but game 1. Depending on matchups and how guys are playing I'd end with Hayward in for Theis.

Fouls are a big reason. Feel like you can play small for a short period of time. If we do it the whole game fouls and fatigue would become factors.

I wouldnt want JT or JB being beaten up by Bam all game long. Start with the usual 5, wait for Theis to be in foul trouble (6min mark of the 1st qtr lol) then go small

zoyathedestroya · Post #100 » by **zoyathedestroya** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:32 pm

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Team defense has been good, one-on-one defense has been meh. He's passing up scoring opportunities but has been moving the ball well. I don't mind the modest contributions as long as the Jays are cooking. Expecting more scoring from Kemba tbh.

Play Hayward off the bench when he returns