Raps 2020 Picks (Prospect Watch, Update: Vecenie Mock Released)

[Mark_83]

If you're looking for a Herro type player the closest I see in the draft is probably Sam Merrill, style-wise, and he may go undrafted.

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[HeadtopChunes]

How would Isaac Okoro fit this team?

[tdotrep2]

i have a feeling we are gonna get solid players from this draft

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How would Isaac Okoro fit this team?

Backup SF until he develops his shot. Eventually in a few years is the team moves or moves on for Powell his might be able to start at SG. Okoro/OG/Siakam would be so solid.

Would a team trade a pick around 10 for Powell, Thomas and #29? If Okoro or Vassell are around that pick, I would pull the trigger.

[Reeko]

If we don't sign FVV then he might be interesting. He's small and unathletic and would have problems guarding teams like Boston. Plus he's not a great defender. But he could play the FVV off the bench role. He might really drop if he gets overlooked for sexier picks.

I feel like the main complaint about a FVV led team is that he isn't a high IQ passer at times and has tunnel vision. Lowry provides balance and in the same way Winston would do the same.

Winston will come in, learn more from Lowry in a short time and add some bulk and in year two we will really see whether he can start. As a back-up, he is a perfect compliment to TD II. Winston knows how to set-up shooters, and can play off ball if TD II or Powell are handling. I don't think there is a higher IQ player in the draft.

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The only real problem I have with Winston is his size. He does have the plus wingspan relative to height but I still want to emphasize size at that guard position if we do draft a guard

I understand that line of thinking but I think drafting bigger guards simply because they are bigger, is not a recipe for success. For all of his size and athleticism, Delon Wright will never be as good as Fred VanVleet. I prefer skill and intelligence over height and athleticism.

[HeadtopChunes]

How would Isaac Okoro fit this team?

Backup SF until he develops his shot. Eventually in a few years is the team moves or moves on for Powell his might be able to start at SG. Okoro/OG/Siakam would be so solid.

Would a team trade a pick around 10 for Powell, Thomas and #29? If Okoro or Vassell are around that pick, I would pull the trigger.

If we can teach him to shoot he’d be a nice fit as SG.

Think Okoro is an overrated defender but he’s an underrated passer.

Has some slashing upside with his frame+ handle improvements. Someone to apply halfcourt pressure at the rim could be nice for this team.

Defensively still pretty good too, maybe like Igoudala/Smart type mold as a player.

Fred/Okoro/OG/Siakam as a defensive core is pretty wild

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How would Isaac Okoro fit this team?

Backup SF until he develops his shot. Eventually in a few years is the team moves or moves on for Powell his might be able to start at SG. Okoro/OG/Siakam would be so solid.

Would a team trade a pick around 10 for Powell, Thomas and #29? If Okoro or Vassell are around that pick, I would pull the trigger.

If we can teach him to shoot he’d be a nice fit as SG.

Think Okoro is an overrated defender but he’s an underrated passer.

Has some slashing upside with his frame+ handle improvements. Someone to apply halfcourt pressure at the rim could be nice for this team.

Defensively still pretty good too, maybe like Igoudala/Smart type mold as a player.

Fred/Okoro/OG/Siakam as a defensive core is pretty wild

The thing is how to acquire said 1st pick. Masai didn't try hard enough to grab a 1st pick in the Giannis draft.

[Indeed]

Yeah Herro is also a very underrated passer so when the shot isn't there he can do more almost Booker like with less size.

I don't expect Joe to be that good but he atleast brings everything Thomas did while being better on defense and possessing some moves to actually get his shot off without running plays for him.
We definitely lack cutting and off-ball action though, atleast once every game we went 3-4mins without making a basket and that can't happen

Considering playing Joe and Matt together, Matt might have more in his bag in terms of playmaking.

If we are sticking with the Heat analogy, maybe Matt is the Herro and Joe can be the Duncan?

I think if we sign Fred we won't want our pick especially when two places later the money isn't guaranteed. A flyer on Nnaji might be worth guaranteeing some money. On the potential and a small contract. If we have KL and Fred locked up no way should we keep the pick if BPA is a guard.

Draft is ahead of free agency, so we cannot determine if we are able to re-sign VanVleet or Ibaka or Gasol before we choose who to draft.

Furthermore, I doubt someone we drafted now can crack the rotation and have more minutes than Davis. Both Davis and Boucher didn't get much minute until we got injuries. I think it is best if you think our 1st round pick would go to the D-League, just like Siakam did on his earlier rookie years.

[HeadtopChunes]

Backup SF until he develops his shot. Eventually in a few years is the team moves or moves on for Powell his might be able to start at SG. Okoro/OG/Siakam would be so solid.

Would a team trade a pick around 10 for Powell, Thomas and #29? If Okoro or Vassell are around that pick, I would pull the trigger.

If we can teach him to shoot he’d be a nice fit as SG.

Think Okoro is an overrated defender but he’s an underrated passer.

Has some slashing upside with his frame+ handle improvements. Someone to apply halfcourt pressure at the rim could be nice for this team.

Defensively still pretty good too, maybe like Igoudala/Smart type mold as a player.

Fred/Okoro/OG/Siakam as a defensive core is pretty wild

The thing is how to acquire said 1st pick. Masai didn't try hard enough to grab a 1st pick in the Giannis draft.

Norm and 29 should get us late lottery. Although I doubt Okoro falls past 10. But I wouldn’t be willing to trade more than that.

[Indeed]

If we can teach him to shoot he’d be a nice fit as SG.

Think Okoro is an overrated defender but he’s an underrated passer.

Has some slashing upside with his frame+ handle improvements. Someone to apply halfcourt pressure at the rim could be nice for this team.

Defensively still pretty good too, maybe like Igoudala/Smart type mold as a player.

Fred/Okoro/OG/Siakam as a defensive core is pretty wild

The thing is how to acquire said 1st pick. Masai didn't try hard enough to grab a 1st pick in the Giannis draft.

Norm and 29 should get us late lottery. Although I doubt Okoro falls past 10. But I wouldn’t be willing to trade more than that.

Projected as a starter at SG, or rotational player. I think he is projected in the lottery.
I am not sure there are many teams want a 2 years contract for Powell. If Powell opts-in, teams may miss on the 2021 class.

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[ATLTimekeeper]

Considering playing Joe and Matt together, Matt might have more in his bag in terms of playmaking.

If we are sticking with the Heat analogy, maybe Matt is the Herro and Joe can be the Duncan?

I think if we sign Fred we won't want our pick especially when two places later the money isn't guaranteed. A flyer on Nnaji might be worth guaranteeing some money. On the potential and a small contract. If we have KL and Fred locked up no way should we keep the pick if BPA is a guard.

Draft is ahead of free agency, so we cannot determine if we are able to re-sign VanVleet or Ibaka or Gasol before we choose who to draft.

Furthermore, I doubt someone we drafted now can crack the rotation and have more minutes than Davis. Both Davis and Boucher didn't get much minute until we got injuries. I think it is best if you think our 1st round pick would go to the D-League, just like Siakam did on his earlier rookie years.

Siakam was an opening night starter. OG also started most of his rookie year. Siakam played a few G League games at the end of the year when he hit the rookie wall. If it's a project player, like Bruno, they'd opt for the Gleague (if there is a Gleague next year).

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I'm cool with Bane being a combo-guard that be like Marcus Smart without the flopping. I can see him fitting in with the Raptors defensive schemes, more than Terence Davis.

[GM89]

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I'm cool with Bane being a combo-guard that be like Marcus Smart without the flopping. I can see him fitting in with the Raptors defensive schemes, more than Terence Davis.

We will probably need to trade-up in the draft to get him. Unlikely that he falls to #29 as lot of teams in the 20s can use a guy with his 3&D skillset.

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[Dalek]

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I'm cool with Bane being a combo-guard that be like Marcus Smart without the flopping. I can see him fitting in with the Raptors defensive schemes, more than Terence Davis.

I really like Bane but wonder how he fits with Powell and Davis. He doesn't really offer anything too different than those guys and my worry would be that Toronto would be loading up on great combo guards but missing guys who can actually run the offense.

Looking at Bane's career so far, he only played this much on-ball this year. He has a negative wingspan so he likely only defends twos and slower ones. Bane scored only 1.014 PPP (33rd percentile) when shooting around the rim.

Skylar Mays played in a tougher conference and is a big PG/SG with a better wingspan. He is not the shooter that Bane is, but has less red-flags and can score from three levels.

[Dalek]

I feel like the main complaint about a FVV led team is that he isn't a high IQ passer at times and has tunnel vision. Lowry provides balance and in the same way Winston would do the same.

Winston will come in, learn more from Lowry in a short time and add some bulk and in year two we will really see whether he can start. As a back-up, he is a perfect compliment to TD II. Winston knows how to set-up shooters, and can play off ball if TD II or Powell are handling. I don't think there is a higher IQ player in the draft.

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The only real problem I have with Winston is his size. He does have the plus wingspan relative to height but I still want to emphasize size at that guard position if we do draft a guard

I understand that line of thinking but I think drafting bigger guards simply because they are bigger, is not a recipe for success. For all of his size and athleticism, Delon Wright will never be as good as Fred VanVleet. I prefer skill and intelligence over height and athleticism.

Winston has a 6'5" wingspan which is way better than FVV and Lowry who I thnk have negative wingspans. Cassius also played under Tom Izzo for his four years meaning he knows team defensive concepts. He has to just work on his body to get a bit stronger and max out his lateral quicks.

What some people may not realize is that Winston, while he put up numbers that look great on paper (43% from three on 5.6 attempts, while ranking in the 97th percentile on spot-ups, 93rd percentile on jumpers, 90th percentile off screens, and 90th percentile off the dribble) it hides the fact he did not play to his full ability.

His brother committed suicide just two games into his season. Cassius played depressed all year, probably even gained some weight during his grieving and lost sleep. He just wasn't quite himself until after the New Year. The crazy thing is even when he wasn't all there his basketball skill and IQ still kept his team afloat.

Even prior to the death of his brother, Winston apparently only sleeps 4-5 hours a night. I'd imagine getting this guy on proper sleep, diet and weight training regimen, he could easily become the next Lowry - because the natural basketball skill is all there. I'd argue he is the best shooter in the draft.

[Johnny Bball]

Doesn't Nick Richards look like a guy we would have try to skip the 2nd round for a guaranteed two year deal and work on as a project?

[Dalek]

Doesn't Nick Richards look like a guy we would have try to skip the 2nd round for a guaranteed two year deal and work on as a project?

I do like his size and development but I am not sure about a 2 year deal. Even a guy like Willie Cauley Stein is having a tough time sticking in the NBA.

I'd rather just sign a guy to a two-way deal and make him earn it.

[Kevin Willis]

Abdoulaye N'Doye?? Why not?