The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7)

dcstanley · Post #241 » by **dcstanley** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:09 am

I hope Bron plays in the post a lot more if the Lakers advance.. Especially for late game offense. His perimeter game during crunch time has looked a little clunky this year imo.

Heej · Post #242 » by **Heej** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:12 am

They're building the wall on Lebron. I guess this is where Jokic's ability to pass out of double teams is GOAT cuz I can't lie there were a lot of times Bron was double teamed that Jokic just had the size to throw someone open out of and Bron had to pass it out to a reset

xb3at band1tx · Post #243 » by **xb3at band1tx** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:14 am

Milsap has yet to win a playoff game against LeBron. 10 - 0
https://www.landofbasketball.com/games_between/lebron_james_vs_paul_millsap.htm

MyUniBroDavis · Post #244 » by **MyUniBroDavis** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:21 am

Heej wrote:They're building the wall on Lebron. I guess this is where Jokic's ability to pass out of double teams is GOAT cuz I can't lie there were a lot of times Bron was double teamed that Jokic just had the size to throw someone open out of and Bron had to pass it out to a reset

The nuggets do this thing where they have the guy who was doubled off of cut from the wing kind of into the guy guarding that corner so every time ur gonna give up an open cut or an open corner three, and a few other things

We dont do that lulz rip

Heej · Post #245 » by **Heej** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:24 am

NGL tho is it just me or did AD and Rondo low key commit a micro coup with that switching of the Playcall. Cuz AD in the post-game interview was like "I went to Rondo on the side and said nah give me the ball" and Vogel legit said Rondo came up to him and whispered in his ear "do you want me to inbound the ball?". And Vogel was like yeah go for it. Lmaoooo so my little conspiracy theory is that AD Lebron and Rondo both know AD gotta take over eventually and LeBron's expecting to get 1 more year as the man wearing 23 and AD and Rondo are like nah ADs hungry and wants that mantle now. It just seemed a little more personal to AD

thebigbird · Post #246 » by **thebigbird** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:37 am

Heej wrote:NGL tho is it just me or did AD and Rondo low key commit a micro coup with that switching of the Playcall. Cuz AD in the post-game interview was like "I went to Rondo on the side and said nah give me the ball" and Vogel legit said Rondo came up to him and whispered in his ear "do you want me to inbound the ball?". And Vogel was like yeah go for it. Lmaoooo so my little conspiracy theory is that AD Lebron and Rondo both know AD gotta take over eventually and LeBron's expecting to get 1 more year as the man wearing 23 and AD and Rondo are like nah ADs hungry and wants that mantle now. It just seemed a little more personal to AD

I can see that, but LeBron kind of just stood there on the inbounds so it didn't seem that he was expecting the ball.

MyUniBroDavis · Post #247 » by **MyUniBroDavis** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:42 am

thebigbird wrote:
Heej wrote:NGL tho is it just me or did AD and Rondo low key commit a micro coup with that switching of the Playcall. Cuz AD in the post-game interview was like "I went to Rondo on the side and said nah give me the ball" and Vogel legit said Rondo came up to him and whispered in his ear "do you want me to inbound the ball?". And Vogel was like yeah go for it. Lmaoooo so my little conspiracy theory is that AD Lebron and Rondo both know AD gotta take over eventually and LeBron's expecting to get 1 more year as the man wearing 23 and AD and Rondo are like nah ADs hungry and wants that mantle now. It just seemed a little more personal to AD

I can see that, but LeBron kind of just stood there on the inbounds so it didn't seem that he was expecting the ball.

Pretty sure AD said the play was drawn up for him

Post #248 » by **PaulieWal** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:52 am

Heej wrote:NGL tho is it just me or did AD and Rondo low key commit a micro coup with that switching of the Playcall. Cuz AD in the post-game interview was like "I went to Rondo on the side and said nah give me the ball" and Vogel legit said Rondo came up to him and whispered in his ear "do you want me to inbound the ball?". And Vogel was like yeah go for it. Lmaoooo so my little conspiracy theory is that AD Lebron and Rondo both know AD gotta take over eventually and LeBron's expecting to get 1 more year as the man wearing 23 and AD and Rondo are like nah ADs hungry and wants that mantle now. It just seemed a little more personal to AD

How do y'all even come up with this stuff? Going back to his rookie year, the one thing LeBron has never shied away from is having the last play being drawn up for someone else or having the ball himself and passing it to someone else to score. I highly doubt when he knew his offense wasn't even on he would care one iota that the ball was going to AD. No way Rondo and AD are just changing the playcall on their own like that.

xb3at band1tx · Post #249 » by **xb3at band1tx** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:53 am

Heej wrote:NGL tho is it just me or did AD and Rondo low key commit a micro coup with that switching of the Playcall. Cuz AD in the post-game interview was like "I went to Rondo on the side and said nah give me the ball" and Vogel legit said Rondo came up to him and whispered in his ear "do you want me to inbound the ball?". And Vogel was like yeah go for it. Lmaoooo so my little conspiracy theory is that AD Lebron and Rondo both know AD gotta take over eventually and LeBron's expecting to get 1 more year as the man wearing 23 and AD and Rondo are like nah ADs hungry and wants that mantle now. It just seemed a little more personal to AD

I think those 3 kinda knew but didn't say anything

Read on Twitter

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Heej · Post #250 » by **Heej** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:01 am

This is where I think Denver is at mentally. They think they found something building the wall vs LeBron so they'll have confidence next game. It all depends on how the Lakers handle it. I feel like there's a part of Denver that's a little down about missing a golden opportunity but right now it's being covered by hope. Denver's gonna activate their Last Stand ability when they get down double digits some time in the 3rd tomorrow and I think that's the deciding moment of the series.

If the Lakers hold on during that final flurry and have an answer for Denvers LeBron scheme, they'll lose hope then. Because this team still seems very youthful and childlike in that they have boundless optimism, energy, belief, and brash confidence. And the thing with kids is that they're very up and down and not even keeled at all, so they'll hype themselves up like crazy next game but if they lose they'll spiral like crazy and basically lay down and die in Game 4 cuz they've been down 3-1 but never 3-0.

If Denver takes it we're in for a dogfight but it really depends who returns to form more, the Denver offense or LeBron. But if they lose, there's nothing more crushing than having your hope ripped out from you (especially to younger and more immature people). Kinda goes with my new theory now that Game 3 is the first make or break game in a series and why teams that win it are so much more prone to winning the series than you would expect statistically.

Btw the Kuzma vs MPJ matchup is the storyline I never knew I needed but is now fascinating.

Dupp · Post #251 » by **Dupp** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:29 am

What’s happening between kuz and mpj?

Caruso is so great. One of my favourite lebron teammates ever

GSP · Post #252 » by **GSP** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:40 am

Read on Twitter

this is still so surreal man. Has that ever happened before where Bron and the whole team was just collapsing and one of his teammates just bailed out the whole team with clutch basket after clutch basket plus the gamewinner in a playoff game? Usually if a Bron teammate hit a gamewinner Bron is still pivotal for the run and clutch baskets/assists leading up to it. In this one it was literally all Ad in the 4th

xb3at band1tx · Post #253 » by **xb3at band1tx** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:22 am

Bill is uh not happy about the Lakers in the latest pod lol

Ursusamericanus · Post #254 » by **Ursusamericanus** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:15 am

Man what a finish. So heartening to see LeBron having a teammate like AD. He really was the go-to guy down the stretch. On other LeBron teams, if he was playing this poorly in the second half, they'd lose. AD is something special and I really think they'll win a couple rings together.

Dupp · Post #255 » by **Dupp** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:53 am

xb3at band1tx wrote:Bill is uh not happy about the Lakers in the latest pod lol

One of the great basketball moments was when cavs won the lottery again and seeing simmons reaction live Just so much disappointment... Such a salty dude. Hes hated lebron for ages so this is great

xb3at band1tx · Post #256 » by **xb3at band1tx** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:13 am

Dupp wrote:
xb3at band1tx wrote:Bill is uh not happy about the Lakers in the latest pod lol

One of the great basketball moments was when cavs won the lottery again and seeing simmons reaction live Just so much disappointment... Such a salty dude. Hes hated lebron for ages so this is great

Oh man it's been worst ten-fold when he joined the Lakers.

I think in his 2nd stint Cavs years, Simmons eased up a little on Bron, but ever since the Lakers got good again his takes have been more misinformed and deranged after the other as LA get's closer to the finals.

Today his guest Cousin Sal said the lakers look like they don't have fun... and I was :lol:

When Luka shot that 3 against the Clippers, Bill spent 33 minutes talking about it. Yet he spent 3-5 minutes on AD's shot today

KTM_2813 · Post #257 » by **KTM_2813** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:12 pm

IIRC, the Lakers' fourth quarter offense has been low-key disappointing all year. Their percentage of scoring at the rim nosedives, in part because they go to the "LeBron iso" offense, and they basically stop looking for transition opportunities. It's not that they've been bad, but what happened last night against the Nuggets wasn't completely surprising. Hopefully, this debacle serves as a bit of a wake-up call. Denver can make the series close if Los Angeles doesn't make some offense adjustments.

RCM88x · Post #258 » by **RCM88x** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:56 pm

All the bickering about who deserves more credit etc.. on this team has gotten so draining. Like can't we wait until after the season concludes to discuss who should win FMVP and what that would mean to each players legacy? Really quite annoying honestly. Still a lot of games that need to be played.

dcstanley · Post #259 » by **dcstanley** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:44 pm

KTM_2813 wrote:IIRC, the Lakers' fourth quarter offense has been low-key disappointing all year. Their percentage of scoring at the rim nosedives, in part because they go to the "LeBron iso" offense, and they basically stop looking for transition opportunities. It's not that they've been bad, but what happened last night against the Nuggets wasn't completely surprising. Hopefully, this debacle serves as a bit of a wake-up call. Denver can make the series close if Los Angeles doesn't make some offense adjustments.

Their late game offense has been a concern of mine all season long. To their credit they haven’t had to worry about it too much in the playoffs but I think it could be a slight problem going forward.

I don’t anticipate them deviating from the Lebron perimeter ISOs late in the game but the Lakers could really put teams away much earlier if they play with more pace, attack earlier in the shot clock, have Lebron operate in the post more, or ran actions for AD. Lebron’s preference to slow the game to a halt late in the fourth is not beneficial for this team like it was for his previous teams.

thebigbird · Post #260 » by **thebigbird** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:06 pm

dcstanley wrote:
KTM_2813 wrote:IIRC, the Lakers' fourth quarter offense has been low-key disappointing all year. Their percentage of scoring at the rim nosedives, in part because they go to the "LeBron iso" offense, and they basically stop looking for transition opportunities. It's not that they've been bad, but what happened last night against the Nuggets wasn't completely surprising. Hopefully, this debacle serves as a bit of a wake-up call. Denver can make the series close if Los Angeles doesn't make some offense adjustments.

Their late game offense has been a concern of mine all season long. To their credit they haven’t had to worry about it too much in the playoffs but I think it could be a slight problem going forward.

I don’t anticipate them deviating from the Lebron perimeter ISOs late in the game but the Lakers could really put teams away much earlier if they play with more pace, attack earlier in the shot clock, have Lebron operate in the post more, or ran actions for AD. Lebron’s preference to the slow the game to a halt late in the fourth is not beneficial for this team like it was for his previous teams.

It's a concern to me too, but they're now 51-0 when leading after the third quarter this season. As ugly as it gets at times in the 4th, they get the job done.