2020 NBA Draft Thread

[Cuban Pete]

Just to add...

Ramsey has strong numbers in DRB%, Assist%, and Steal%. Unlike Langford, Brown, and Young who, in comparison, were pedestrian in these areas.

[Cuban Pete]

FYI...

Isaiah Joe withdrew from the draft.

[100proof]

FYI...

Isaiah Joe withdrew from the draft.

Didnt he put his name in again though? as of 3 weeks ago he was back in the draft.

[Cuban Pete]

FYI...

Isaiah Joe withdrew from the draft.

Didnt he put his name in again though? as of 3 weeks ago he was back in the draft.

You are correct sir. It was a COVID loophole. He didn't hire an agent. He's a great shooter but is a stringbean at 165lbs.

Now I have to find out who else declared.

[Duke4life831]

26: jahmius Ramsay: 6foot4. Long arms6-10
Strong defender, excellent 3pt shooter. Super competitive. Can play pg-sf. Marcus smart, not as good on defense, superior shooter.

A "superior shooter" that shoots 64% from the FTL?

Justice Winslow had a great college 3pt% and had a 64% FT%.

When did he become a strong defender as well? Defense was a major weakness for him last year. His rotations were really bad and he constantly bit on fakes and made undisciplined plays.

And ya the list is long for guys that show well from 3 in their freshman season who struggled from the line and their 3pt shooting didnt translate. His form is solid but very inconsistent. Way too many times he shoots without fully extending his shooting elbow. Which leads to when he misses, he tends to miss really bad.

I think he is for sure a solid pickup late in the 1st because he does have potential with that jumper and he has potential on the defensive side. But he has a ton of questions with his game, and definitely wouldnt put him anywhere near a Marcus Smart comparison.

[100proof]

26: jahmius Ramsay: 6foot4. Long arms6-10
Strong defender, excellent 3pt shooter. Super competitive. Can play pg-sf. Marcus smart, not as good on defense, superior shooter.

A "superior shooter" that shoots 64% from the FTL?

Justice Winslow had a great college 3pt% and had a 64% FT%.

When did he become a strong defender as well? Defense was a major weakness for him last year. His rotations were really bad and he constantly bit on fakes and made undisciplined plays.

And ya the list is long for guys that show well from 3 in their freshman season who struggled from the line and their 3pt shooting didnt translate. His form is solid but very inconsistent. Way too many times he shoots without fully extending his shooting elbow. Which leads to when he misses, he tends to miss really bad.

I think he is for sure a solid pickup late in the 1st because he does have potential with that jumper and he has potential on the defensive side. But he has a ton of questions with his game, and definitely wouldnt put him anywhere near a Marcus Smart comparison.

Smart is hyper competitive sonis ramsey.

Ramsey, when tasked is an excellent defender as well.

His advanced defensive stats are the best among guards according to tankathon.

[100proof]

FYI...

Isaiah Joe withdrew from the draft.

Didnt he put his name in again though? as of 3 weeks ago he was back in the draft.

You are correct sir. It was a COVID loophole. He didn't hire an agent. He's a great shooter but is a stringbean at 165lbs.

Now I have to find out who else declared.

I also believe since covid he has put on close to 20 lbs of muscle. Believe he is currently claiming 185

[Duke4life831]

A "superior shooter" that shoots 64% from the FTL?

Justice Winslow had a great college 3pt% and had a 64% FT%.

When did he become a strong defender as well? Defense was a major weakness for him last year. His rotations were really bad and he constantly bit on fakes and made undisciplined plays.

And ya the list is long for guys that show well from 3 in their freshman season who struggled from the line and their 3pt shooting didnt translate. His form is solid but very inconsistent. Way too many times he shoots without fully extending his shooting elbow. Which leads to when he misses, he tends to miss really bad.

I think he is for sure a solid pickup late in the 1st because he does have potential with that jumper and he has potential on the defensive side. But he has a ton of questions with his game, and definitely wouldnt put him anywhere near a Marcus Smart comparison.

Smart is hyper competitive sonis ramsey.

Ramsey, when tasked is an excellent defender as well.

His advanced defensive stats are the best among guards according to tankathon.

Eh defensive metrics from college mean absolutely nothing. A guy like Okafor had really good defensive metrics, he was 2nd on that Duke championship team in Defensive winshares and I believe top 10 in the ACC in defensive winshares. The drastic difference in level of competition in college is just too much it throws all of those things out of wack. Most college players are able to bank a ton of great defensive possessions against horrible bottom of the barrell Division 1 teams and then you will see those defensive metrics so trickle down for the rest of the year.

Everything I saw from Ramsey (which is a good amount because most Duke fans watch a ton of TTU because many think Beard will be the coach after K leaves), he wasnt a good defender. Again he severely lacks awareness and discipline on that end. If he was an elite defender and an elite 3pt shooter, with his build and his solid athleticism, he wouldnt be available late 1st in this draft. That would be a no doubt lotto pick in this draft.

Ramsey shows flashes with his jumper, but again that form is very inconsistent. He is a horrible FT shooter and horrible finisher at the rim. He has good lateral quickness but not elite. Has good size and strength, but again lacks discipline and awareness on the defensive end.

Again solid pickup late in the 1st? Ya because of that 3&D potential. But he just has so many question marks about his game. I think most teams are going to draft him hoping he can become an offensive spark off the bench. With the hope that he can become a Josh Hart kind of player. But again that is with the hope he settles down on the defensive end and buys into getting disciplined. Plus that pick just doesnt make all that much sense for Boston because you guys already have Kemba, Brown, and Smart getting big minutes at the guard spots, then young raw scoring guards with Edwards and Langford.

[100proof]

When did he become a strong defender as well? Defense was a major weakness for him last year. His rotations were really bad and he constantly bit on fakes and made undisciplined plays.

And ya the list is long for guys that show well from 3 in their freshman season who struggled from the line and their 3pt shooting didnt translate. His form is solid but very inconsistent. Way too many times he shoots without fully extending his shooting elbow. Which leads to when he misses, he tends to miss really bad.

I think he is for sure a solid pickup late in the 1st because he does have potential with that jumper and he has potential on the defensive side. But he has a ton of questions with his game, and definitely wouldnt put him anywhere near a Marcus Smart comparison.

Smart is hyper competitive sonis ramsey.

Ramsey, when tasked is an excellent defender as well.

His advanced defensive stats are the best among guards according to tankathon.

Eh defensive metrics from college mean absolutely nothing. A guy like Okafor had really good defensive metrics, he was 2nd on that Duke championship team in Defensive winshares and I believe top 10 in the ACC in defensive winshares. The drastic difference in level of competition in college is just too much it throws all of those things out of wack. Most college players are able to bank a ton of great defensive possessions against horrible bottom of the barrell Division 1 teams and then you will see those defensive metrics so trickle down for the rest of the year.

Everything I saw from Ramsey (which is a good amount because most Duke fans watch a ton of TTU because many think Beard will be the coach after K leaves), he wasnt a good defender. Again he severely lacks awareness and discipline on that end. If he was an elite defender and an elite 3pt shooter, with his build and his solid athleticism, he wouldnt be available late 1st in this draft. That would be a no doubt lotto pick in this draft.

Ramsey shows flashes with his jumper, but again that form is very inconsistent. He is a horrible FT shooter and horrible finisher at the rim. He has good lateral quickness but not elite. Has good size and strength, but again lacks discipline and awareness on the defensive end.

Again solid pickup late in the 1st? Ya because of that 3&D potential. But he just has so many question marks about his game. I think most teams are going to draft him hoping he can become an offensive spark off the bench. With the hope that he can become a Josh Hart kind of player. But again that is with the hope he settles down on the defensive end and buys into getting disciplined. Plus that pick just doesnt make all that much sense for Boston because you guys already have Kemba, Brown, and Smart getting big minutes at the guard spots, then young raw scoring guards with Edwards and Langford.

I think at 26 he is a great get.

[neno]

The ball seems to swish cleaner when Tyrell Terry shoots it

Okongwu seems like a good player with a cool name(any name with kong in it is cool"
O kong wu ain't nuttin to f with

[Duke4life831]

Smart is hyper competitive sonis ramsey.

Ramsey, when tasked is an excellent defender as well.

His advanced defensive stats are the best among guards according to tankathon.

Eh defensive metrics from college mean absolutely nothing. A guy like Okafor had really good defensive metrics, he was 2nd on that Duke championship team in Defensive winshares and I believe top 10 in the ACC in defensive winshares. The drastic difference in level of competition in college is just too much it throws all of those things out of wack. Most college players are able to bank a ton of great defensive possessions against horrible bottom of the barrell Division 1 teams and then you will see those defensive metrics so trickle down for the rest of the year.

Everything I saw from Ramsey (which is a good amount because most Duke fans watch a ton of TTU because many think Beard will be the coach after K leaves), he wasnt a good defender. Again he severely lacks awareness and discipline on that end. If he was an elite defender and an elite 3pt shooter, with his build and his solid athleticism, he wouldnt be available late 1st in this draft. That would be a no doubt lotto pick in this draft.

Ramsey shows flashes with his jumper, but again that form is very inconsistent. He is a horrible FT shooter and horrible finisher at the rim. He has good lateral quickness but not elite. Has good size and strength, but again lacks discipline and awareness on the defensive end.

Again solid pickup late in the 1st? Ya because of that 3&D potential. But he just has so many question marks about his game. I think most teams are going to draft him hoping he can become an offensive spark off the bench. With the hope that he can become a Josh Hart kind of player. But again that is with the hope he settles down on the defensive end and buys into getting disciplined. Plus that pick just doesnt make all that much sense for Boston because you guys already have Kemba, Brown, and Smart getting big minutes at the guard spots, then young raw scoring guards with Edwards and Langford.

I think at 26 he is a great get.

Again Im not degrading his value late in the 1st. But Im not seeing some must have value either. I think you guys have needs that are for more important than getting another raw scoring guard. A long term stable backup PG, there should be multiple guys late in the 1st that should be available and with just as good of value. Another big or a strong athletic 4 also would make sense.

If I was the Celtics and were keeping all 3 picks, I would be looking at using #14 on one of:
(no precise order)
Precious
Patrick Williams
Saddiq Bey
Nesmith

Add another wing/athletic 4 for when Hayward moves on or when age just catches up to him (Precious might be a strict 5 in today's NBA though, he is the most questionable fit)

Then at #26 I would be looking backup PG
Manion
Jones
Terry
Maledon

Then at #30 this is where I would throw in the wildcards
Ramsey
Green (who I would take overy Ramsey as a raw guard prospect)
McDaniels
Jalen Smith

[Duke4life831]

The ball seems to swish cleaner when Tyrell Terry shoots it

Okongwu seems like a good player with a cool name(any name with kong in it is cool"
O kong wu ain't nuttin to f with

That is because Terry is a legit sharpshooter.

[Curmudgeon]

I have zero interest in having more than one rookie on next year's Celtics roster.

[playa-hater]

REMINDER list your top 3 choices at 14.. Tomorrow night I want to tally the votes and see what player/s get the most votes!

[Cuban Pete]

The biggest reason not to draft Ramsey at 14? Josh Green might still be on the board.

[Bill Lumbergh]

REMINDER list your top 3 choices at 14.. Tomorrow night I want to tally the votes and see what player/s get the most votes!

Okay, I will go Precious, Kira Lewis, Bey, Reed, Maxey at 14, though Lewis will probably be off the board. Two or three of those guys should be available when we pick. I would be happy with any one of those guys. Lewis and Achiuwa are the highest upside guys of that group. Guessing that I like Reed better than most because I rarely see him thought of at 14. Bey, I regard as a high floor, not that high ceiling guy, a bit like Grant in that respect. So sue me, it’s not just three. I probably like Maxey the least of the group at 14, but still like him.

At 26 or 30, though I don’t see us keeping all three, I like Elijah Hughes as a bench scorer with a sweet stroke and good size and athleticism.

With our other late pick, hey, maybe Reed is still available. If not, who knows? I would stash Bolmaro if we could. If not, maybe Ramsey if we haven’t already picked a guard, maybe Isaiah Stewart if we have not yet picked a big.

[big-shot-ROB]

REMINDER list your top 3 choices at 14.. Tomorrow night I want to tally the votes and see what player/s get the most votes!

P. Williams, Bey, Maxey

[neno]

14 top 3
Precious
Lewis
Terry

[100proof]

The biggest reason not to draft Ramsey at 14? Josh Green might still be on the board.

I would draft lewis jr as well before ramsey at 14.

I see ramsey being there at 26

[Squigglepuffin]

Am I the only one that thinks Devon Dotson is severely underrated? Dude is good. He's def a 1st round talent but I've been seeing him in a lot of mocks projected as a second rounder.