2020 NBA Draft Prospects: Thread II

[Neeva]

I am coming back around to Edwards.

1a. Ball 1b. Edwards
17a. Maxey 17b. Anthony 17c. Terry
33a. Joe 33b. Bane 33c. Jones

preference at 17 is definitely Maxey, he might be wolves version of Bradley Beal in 6-7 years. I know his shooting percentages were not as high as Beal at Florida but Maxey has talent.

[KGdaBom]

Am I the only wolves fan that wants Isaiah Joe at 33?

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Nothing wrong with him. There are all kinds of intriguing 2nd round picks and very few of them ever work out.

[minimus]

Watching the playoffs. Drafting anyone that CANT shoot is the biggest mistake this franchise can make. If any prospects have poor FT%, FG% and 3pt% absolutely do not want.

For a big man or wing, I'd say that it is much easier to have success in this league if you are a good shooter. However, I'd still draft guys with potential to be next Kawhi, Giannis, Siakam, Rondo, etc. But these guys are elite athletes. I'd agree that drafting PG/SG who cant shoot does not work anymore. At least I can't remember a single backcourt player who has succeeded in the last three years without shooting 3s.

[minimus]

Who you think will be sleepers of this draft? My list of potential sleepers:

1) Xavier Tillman, C, 22yo
Why: Tillman has combination of following skills that translates well in NBA. Defensive IQ, elite passing for bigman, elite finisher at rim.
Comparison: Draymond Green, less athletic Bam Adebayo
Risks: not elite athlete, does not have reliable 3pt shot

2) Killian Tillie
Why: Tillie is a definition of modern stretch five. High IQ player, physical and mobile
Comparison: poor man Kevin Love
Risks: not elite athlete, injury prone

3) Kira Lewis Jr
Why: ultra fast and quick as ballhandler, In modern NBA he can have plenty of scoring opportunities. Shooting potential
Comparison: Lou Williams, De Aaron Fox
Risks: 6'3", but only 165lbs

4) Desmond Bane
Why: high IQ player, solid athlete, good shooter, versatile scorer
Comparison: (???)
Risks: very short wingspan

5) Tyrell Terry
Why: an elite shooter, an passer, this kid is a baller
Comparison: Traу Young
Risks: 6'2", only 165lbs

[SmokeyPaw]

Who you think will be sleepers of this draft? My list of potential sleepers:

1) Xavier Tillman, C, 22yo
Why: Tillman has combination of following skills that translates well in NBA. Defensive IQ, elite passing for bigman, elite finisher at rim.
Comparison: Draymond Green, less athletic Bam Adebayo
Risks: not elite athlete, does not have reliable 3pt shot

2) Killian Tillie
Why: Tillie is a definition of modern stretch five. High IQ player, physical and mobile
Comparison: poor man Kevin Love
Risks: not elite athlete, injury prone

3) Kira Lewis Jr
Why: ultra fast and quick as ballhandler, In modern NBA he can have plenty of scoring opportunities. Shooting potential
Comparison: Lou Williams, De Aaron Fox
Risks: 6'3", but only 165lbs

4) Desmond Bane
Why: high IQ player, solid athlete, good shooter, versatile scorer
Comparison: (???)
Risks: very short wingspan

5) Tyrell Terry
Why: an elite shooter, an passer, this kid is a baller
Comparison: Traу Young
Risks: 6'2", only 165lbs

Paul Reed who is generally mocked in the second round. High level defender with 5.0 stocks per 36. If they can get him to neutral offensively (shot needs work) he could be a big surprise. Compare him to Precious (note he's only 3 mos older) http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=paul-reed--precious-achiuwa

[minimus]

Paul Reed who is generally mocked in the second round. High level defender with 5.0 stocks per 36. If they can get hom to neutral offensively (shot needs work) he could be a big surprise. Compare him to Precious (note he's only 3 mos older) http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=paul-reed--precious-achiuwa

Yes, forgot about Reed. He indeed looks robotic in offense, but his defense is very good. Definitely should be in top20.

[Nick K]

Who you think will be sleepers of this draft? My list of potential sleepers:

1) Xavier Tillman, C, 22yo
Why: Tillman has combination of following skills that translates well in NBA. Defensive IQ, elite passing for bigman, elite finisher at rim.
Comparison: Draymond Green, less athletic Bam Adebayo
Risks: not elite athlete, does not have reliable 3pt shot

2) Killian Tillie
Why: Tillie is a definition of modern stretch five. High IQ player, physical and mobile
Comparison: poor man Kevin Love
Risks: not elite athlete, injury prone

3) Kira Lewis Jr
Why: ultra fast and quick as ballhandler, In modern NBA he can have plenty of scoring opportunities. Shooting potential
Comparison: Lou Williams, De Aaron Fox
Risks: 6'3", but only 165lbs

4) Desmond Bane
Why: high IQ player, solid athlete, good shooter, versatile scorer
Comparison: (???)
Risks: very short wingspan

5) Tyrell Terry
Why: an elite shooter, an passer, this kid is a baller
Comparison: Traу Young
Risks: 6'2", only 165lbs

Paul Reed who is generally mocked in the second round. High level defender with 5.0 stocks per 36. If they can get him to neutral offensively (shot needs work) he could be a big surprise. Compare him to Precious (note he's only 3 mos older) http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=paul-reed--precious-achiuwa

I'd snap Reed up at #17. I have high hopes for Nowell as a SG reserve.

[Nick K]

I saw this and found it interesting and revealing....

An interesting post from Canis today:

"I thought I would share an experience I had today.

I make videos for Best Buy for a living.

We have an internal video series called "Think Blue" where we interview experts from other industries.

Today, I was supposed to "direct" a Zoom interview with Gersson Rosas as part of the series.

When the interviewer had a last-minute conflict, I was asked to step in, as everyone knows what a big Wolves fan I am.

I had helped develop some of the questions ahead of time, so it wasn’t a huge leap to step into that role.

Gersson was, of course, as impressive as one would anticipate.

Long, eloquent answers to questions on culture, diversity, social justice.

Now that I was host, though, I was able to squeeze in a couple of questions of my choosing.

One was asking the following.

"When it comes to drafting players, how much do you value taking home run swings, versus making sure you don’t strike out? Is it more important to have a predictable range of outcomes when you spend your draft capital, or do you accept volatility in outcomes if it means higher potential upside?"

In his answer, Gersson definitely came down on the side of the draft being a place exclusively for home run swings. He views trades and free agency as the place you fill needs with predictable outcomes, and the draft as the place where you accept volatility for the sake of high upside return.

That answer made me feel that he’s not going to be at all afraid of drafting Ball, despite the wide range of possible outcomes.

I also think it indicates that he’s unlikely to trade down and draft a "safe" player like Devin Vassell.

I managed to end the interview this way.

"Finally, I know you’re not going to tell me who you’re leaning towards taking with the #1 pick. So, just blink once if it’s LaMelo Ball, twice if it’s Anthony Edwards, or if you’re going to trade down to the 4-6 range, draft Killian Hayes, and get a 2021 first round pick in return, don’t do anything."

He was very amused and started laughing at that ending.

If that’s what happens, I’m going to say I won him over.

Anyway, I thought I’d share, for what it’s worth."

Posted by HumdingerTV on Sep 21, 2020 | 2:52 PM
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I think he swings for the fence with Edwards. No doubt in my mind.

[KGdaBom]

I saw this and found it interesting and revealing....

An interesting post from Canis today:

"I thought I would share an experience I had today.

I make videos for Best Buy for a living.

We have an internal video series called "Think Blue" where we interview experts from other industries.

Today, I was supposed to "direct" a Zoom interview with Gersson Rosas as part of the series.

When the interviewer had a last-minute conflict, I was asked to step in, as everyone knows what a big Wolves fan I am.

I had helped develop some of the questions ahead of time, so it wasn’t a huge leap to step into that role.

Gersson was, of course, as impressive as one would anticipate.

Long, eloquent answers to questions on culture, diversity, social justice.

Now that I was host, though, I was able to squeeze in a couple of questions of my choosing.

One was asking the following.

"When it comes to drafting players, how much do you value taking home run swings, versus making sure you don’t strike out? Is it more important to have a predictable range of outcomes when you spend your draft capital, or do you accept volatility in outcomes if it means higher potential upside?"

In his answer, Gersson definitely came down on the side of the draft being a place exclusively for home run swings. He views trades and free agency as the place you fill needs with predictable outcomes, and the draft as the place where you accept volatility for the sake of high upside return.

That answer made me feel that he’s not going to be at all afraid of drafting Ball, despite the wide range of possible outcomes.

I also think it indicates that he’s unlikely to trade down and draft a "safe" player like Devin Vassell.

I managed to end the interview this way.

"Finally, I know you’re not going to tell me who you’re leaning towards taking with the #1 pick. So, just blink once if it’s LaMelo Ball, twice if it’s Anthony Edwards, or if you’re going to trade down to the 4-6 range, draft Killian Hayes, and get a 2021 first round pick in return, don’t do anything."

He was very amused and started laughing at that ending.

If that’s what happens, I’m going to say I won him over.

Anyway, I thought I’d share, for what it’s worth."

Posted by HumdingerTV on Sep 21, 2020 | 2:52 PM
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I think he swings for the fence with Edwards. No doubt in my mind.

I personally believe that ball has a wide range of outcomes from worthless to decent career backup. I don't see anything higher.

[Neeva]

I saw this and found it interesting and revealing....

An interesting post from Canis today:

"I thought I would share an experience I had today.

I make videos for Best Buy for a living.

We have an internal video series called "Think Blue" where we interview experts from other industries.

Today, I was supposed to "direct" a Zoom interview with Gersson Rosas as part of the series.

When the interviewer had a last-minute conflict, I was asked to step in, as everyone knows what a big Wolves fan I am.

I had helped develop some of the questions ahead of time, so it wasn’t a huge leap to step into that role.

Gersson was, of course, as impressive as one would anticipate.

Long, eloquent answers to questions on culture, diversity, social justice.

Now that I was host, though, I was able to squeeze in a couple of questions of my choosing.

One was asking the following.

"When it comes to drafting players, how much do you value taking home run swings, versus making sure you don’t strike out? Is it more important to have a predictable range of outcomes when you spend your draft capital, or do you accept volatility in outcomes if it means higher potential upside?"

In his answer, Gersson definitely came down on the side of the draft being a place exclusively for home run swings. He views trades and free agency as the place you fill needs with predictable outcomes, and the draft as the place where you accept volatility for the sake of high upside return.

That answer made me feel that he’s not going to be at all afraid of drafting Ball, despite the wide range of possible outcomes.

I also think it indicates that he’s unlikely to trade down and draft a "safe" player like Devin Vassell.

I managed to end the interview this way.

"Finally, I know you’re not going to tell me who you’re leaning towards taking with the #1 pick. So, just blink once if it’s LaMelo Ball, twice if it’s Anthony Edwards, or if you’re going to trade down to the 4-6 range, draft Killian Hayes, and get a 2021 first round pick in return, don’t do anything."

He was very amused and started laughing at that ending.

If that’s what happens, I’m going to say I won him over.

Anyway, I thought I’d share, for what it’s worth."

Posted by HumdingerTV on Sep 21, 2020 | 2:52 PM
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I think he swings for the fence with Edwards. No doubt in my mind.

Hmm makes me think Ball. Ball is more likely to have a better rookie year with pro experience already under his belt and might have higer trade value after his first season.

With 17th I am almost positive Rosas will take Maxey if available or Anthony.

[Baseline81]

I personally believe that ball has a wide range of outcomes from worthless to decent career backup. I don't see anything higher.

We know, we know... Wiseman, Okongwu or trade back with Cleveland for the ever-so-perfect Nance Jr.

Did I do that right?

I happen to think Edwards will be that homerun swing.

[KGdaBom]

I saw this and found it interesting and revealing....

An interesting post from Canis today:

"I thought I would share an experience I had today.

I make videos for Best Buy for a living.

We have an internal video series called "Think Blue" where we interview experts from other industries.

Today, I was supposed to "direct" a Zoom interview with Gersson Rosas as part of the series.

When the interviewer had a last-minute conflict, I was asked to step in, as everyone knows what a big Wolves fan I am.

I had helped develop some of the questions ahead of time, so it wasn’t a huge leap to step into that role.

Gersson was, of course, as impressive as one would anticipate.

Long, eloquent answers to questions on culture, diversity, social justice.

Now that I was host, though, I was able to squeeze in a couple of questions of my choosing.

One was asking the following.

"When it comes to drafting players, how much do you value taking home run swings, versus making sure you don’t strike out? Is it more important to have a predictable range of outcomes when you spend your draft capital, or do you accept volatility in outcomes if it means higher potential upside?"

In his answer, Gersson definitely came down on the side of the draft being a place exclusively for home run swings. He views trades and free agency as the place you fill needs with predictable outcomes, and the draft as the place where you accept volatility for the sake of high upside return.

That answer made me feel that he’s not going to be at all afraid of drafting Ball, despite the wide range of possible outcomes.

I also think it indicates that he’s unlikely to trade down and draft a "safe" player like Devin Vassell.

I managed to end the interview this way.

"Finally, I know you’re not going to tell me who you’re leaning towards taking with the #1 pick. So, just blink once if it’s LaMelo Ball, twice if it’s Anthony Edwards, or if you’re going to trade down to the 4-6 range, draft Killian Hayes, and get a 2021 first round pick in return, don’t do anything."

He was very amused and started laughing at that ending.

If that’s what happens, I’m going to say I won him over.

Anyway, I thought I’d share, for what it’s worth."

Posted by HumdingerTV on Sep 21, 2020 | 2:52 PM
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I think he swings for the fence with Edwards. No doubt in my mind.

Hmm makes me think Ball. Ball is more likely to have a better rookie year with pro experience already under his belt and might have higer trade value after his first season.

With 17th I am almost positive Rosas will take Maxey if available or Anthony.

NBL is pro experience in name only. It's a very low level league.

[KGdaBom]

I personally believe that ball has a wide range of outcomes from worthless to decent career backup. I don't see anything higher.

We know, we know... Wiseman, Okongwu or trade back with Cleveland for the ever-so-perfect Nance Jr.

Did I do that right?

I happen to think Edwards will be that homerun swing.

I could tolerate Deni or Edwards also. I do love the trade back for 5 and Nance.

[Nick K]

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Seems to “think” a lot but don’t seem to know a lot ... the only interesting thing he mentioned was his goal to be 1st or 2nd defensive team. Talker or walker?

What's crazy about Edwards is that at the end of games, when his team needed a stop, he completely locked up the best player on the other team, almost every time. If I needed one stop, I may choose him over almost any other perimeter player in college basketball last year. However, he was so lackadaisical the rest of the game, he was a poor defender overall. Ben Simmons was also a very bad defender at LSU because he showed no effort and he turned it around and is one of the top 5-10 defenders in the NBA. Can Edwards do something similar when the games counts more and he doesn't have to carry the offensive load? I don't know.

Great point. The kid is so young 18-19. When he plays with men he'll grow up quick. This kid is a huge talent and the Wolves need to develop him.

[Nick K]

This is a decent video on Edwards driving to the basket. The guy is a stud.

BTW, D'Lo doesn't drive and finish well. Edwards would be great in that role.

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[KGdaBom]

This is a decent video on Edwards driving to the basket. The guy is a stud.

BTW, D'Lo doesn't drive and finish well. Edwards would be great in that role.

Watch on YouTube

Edwards has the ability to drive to the rim, but he very seldom does. He loves the pull up jump shot. I like Edwards potential, but players very seldom live up to their potential. Fingers crossed and hoping.

[Domejandro]

NBL is pro experience in name only. It's a very low level league.

It is substantially better than the NCAA and the disaster of a league that Giannis played in before transitioning to the NBA.

[jpatrick]

This is a decent video on Edwards driving to the basket. The guy is a stud.

BTW, D'Lo doesn't drive and finish well. Edwards would be great in that role.

Watch on YouTube

Edwards has the ability to drive to the rim, but he very seldom does. He loves the pull up jump shot. I like Edwards potential, but players very seldom live up to their potential. Fingers crossed and hoping.

I generally agree he should have gone to the rim more. However, I get why he would pull up. Opposing defenses would essentially have three guys ready to collapse in the half court because they had zero respect for the rest of the Georgia players. So, what’s a better shot, a pull up from 25 or a contested one on three in the lane? In transition it was a different story, when he was one on one, he took it hard at the rim.

[KGdaBom]

NBL is pro experience in name only. It's a very low level league.

It is substantially better than the NCAA and the disaster of a league that Giannis played in before transitioning to the NBA.

What makes you think it is better than the NCAA?

[KGdaBom]

This is a decent video on Edwards driving to the basket. The guy is a stud.

BTW, D'Lo doesn't drive and finish well. Edwards would be great in that role.

Watch on YouTube

Edwards has the ability to drive to the rim, but he very seldom does. He loves the pull up jump shot. I like Edwards potential, but players very seldom live up to their potential. Fingers crossed and hoping.

I generally agree he should have gone to the rim more. However, I get why he would pull up. Opposing defenses would essentially have three guys ready to collapse in the half court because they had zero respect for the rest of the Georgia players. So, what’s a better shot, a pull up from 25 or a contested one on three in the lane? In transition it was a different story, when he was one on one, he took it hard at the rim.

I like the NBA Draft Junkies guy Rafael. He has good takes on players and we chat sometimes.