Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION

[raferfenix]

It is 7 years after drafting Giannis, unfortunately we don't have much of trading assets. We don't have young players or a stash of picks or even a good player on a bargain contract. We don't have cap space either. It has been a complete failure of management

There's plenty to be frustrated about on the asset management front.

However I'm hopeful that the likes of Brook Lopez, Bledsoe, and George Hill could yield an ending contract at least if we need a salary slot.

The Bucks don't have a ton in the way of draft picks but we haven't emptied the cupboard to the extent that the Clippers and Rockets have.

Donte holds plus value too.

[jakecronus8]

Man. Seeing all these wacky trades. It’s starting to sink in. We’re going to look back at these two Giannis MVP years and realize those were their best shot. Sucks.

[emunney]

It is 7 years after drafting Giannis, unfortunately we don't have much of trading assets. We don't have young players or a stash of picks or even a good player on a bargain contract. We don't have cap space either. It has been a complete failure of management

There's plenty to be frustrated about on the asset management front.

However I'm hopeful that the likes of Brook Lopez, Bledsoe, and George Hill could yield an ending contract at least if we need a salary slot.

The Bucks don't have a ton in the way of draft picks but we haven't emptied the cupboard to the extent that the Clippers and Rockets have.

Donte holds plus value too.

Sorry guys, I think this perspective is nuts. We've had the best record in the league two years in a row and have no bad contracts. Of course we have assets.

[bucksfansince88]

Do you guys really trust Horst and Lasry to get the job done this offseason?

[tski1972]

Do you guys really trust Horst and Lasry to get the job done this offseason?

shouldn't be hard, this board has made plenty of quality suggestions these past couple of weeks.

[jakecronus8]

Do you guys really trust Horst and Lasry to get the job done this offseason?

shouldn't be hard, this board has made plenty of quality suggestions these past couple of weeks.

I think an underrated painful part of the memories from this era is that it seemed like for a good 5 year stretch, perceived star and superstar players were dealt left and right (in many cases a pretty big buyers market) and we sat on our hands or made conservative moves.

Biggest death blow for me though is the failure of Jabari Parker. Injuries, poor play and just an overall overvaluation of his game leading to him not only not being a superstar or star player, but not even a productive five year player or trade asset.

[DingleJerry]

Jabari flopping/injury and not dealing him before the 2nd ACL was a big L. And don't forget the following year going like 41-41 instead of getting another high pick. Essentially they only got 1 high draft picked and it flopped. That fluke 41 win year hurt as well, could've used one more top 5 pick and hopefully that one would've panned out. The next draft was KAT, Zinger, Russel, okafor. But, even just 4 picks in front of us was Devin Booker.

[machu46]

Jabari flopping/injury and not dealing him before the 2nd ACL was a big L. And don't forget the following year going like 41-41 instead of getting another high pick. Essentially they only got 1 high draft picked and it flopped. That fluke 41 win year hurt as well, could've used one more top 5 pick and hopefully that one would've panned out. The next draft was KAT, Zinger, Russel, okafor. But, even just 4 picks in front of us was Devin Booker.

Thon was a top 10 pick (and also flopped). We've had plenty of chances to draft good players, including some cases like John Collins where he just fell in our lap and we just refused to accept the gift. The overall drafting of this franchise since we got Giannis is laughably bad.

[LuessiT]

Jabari flopping/injury and not dealing him before the 2nd ACL was a big L. And don't forget the following year going like 41-41 instead of getting another high pick. Essentially they only got 1 high draft picked and it flopped. That fluke 41 win year hurt as well, could've used one more top 5 pick and hopefully that one would've panned out. The next draft was KAT, Zinger, Russel, okafor. But, even just 4 picks in front of us was Devin Booker.

Thon was a top 10 pick (and also flopped). We've had plenty of chances to draft good players, including some cases like John Collins where he just fell in our lap and we just refused to accept the gift. The overall drafting of this franchise since we got Giannis is laughably bad.

That year was also where we won 2 meaningless games at the end of the season which pushed us from drafting #7 to losing the coin toss and drafting #10. From Jamal Murray to Thon Maker. And I still remember the big debate tanking versus non-tanking right afterwards. Fun times.

[Prez]

Jabari flopping/injury and not dealing him before the 2nd ACL was a big L. And don't forget the following year going like 41-41 instead of getting another high pick. Essentially they only got 1 high draft picked and it flopped. That fluke 41 win year hurt as well, could've used one more top 5 pick and hopefully that one would've panned out. The next draft was KAT, Zinger, Russel, okafor. But, even just 4 picks in front of us was Devin Booker.

Thon was a top 10 pick (and also flopped). We've had plenty of chances to draft good players, including some cases like John Collins where he just fell in our lap and we just refused to accept the gift. The overall drafting of this franchise since we got Giannis is laughably bad.

That year was also where we won 2 meaningless games at the end of the season which pushed us from drafting #7 to losing the coin toss and drafting #10. From Jamal Murray to Thon Maker. And I still remember the big debate tanking versus non-tanking right afterwards. Fun times.

Am I misremembering or didn’t the Bucks have Thon stupid high on their board (like higher than 10 stupid) and would’ve taken him at 7?

[FlagsFlyForever]

Do you guys really trust Horst and Lasry to get the job done this offseason?

I am very worried about this offseason. I am concerned Horst will make a panic move and shake up this roster, possibly due to pressure from ownership. We have a championship roster right now and almost any trade will result in us taking a step backwards. I hope the team can see the big picture.

[emunney]

Do you guys really trust Horst and Lasry to get the job done this offseason?

I am very worried about this offseason. I am concerned Horst will make a panic move and shake up this roster, possibly due to pressure from ownership. We have a championship roster right now and almost any trade will result in us taking a step backwards. I hope the team can see the big picture.

My hope is that "unconventional" bit from those Giannis articles was based on Giannis recognizing how old so many of his critical teammates are and that sooner or later they're going to have to be replaced. His "15 years" comments seem to indicate we should be taking a big picture approach, but we also have to be careful not to do anything that could be misconstrued as non-competitive (i.e. trading a starter for a draft choice).

Or if we do, we better be damn sure about it. At the outset, we could always point to the Spurs trading GH for the Kawhi pick, but if we trade, for instance, Bledsoe for a mid-round pick, and that pick doesn't impress in year 1, it could doom us.

[midranger]

Do you guys really trust Horst and Lasry to get the job done this offseason?

I am very worried about this offseason. I am concerned Horst will make a panic move and shake up this roster, possibly due to pressure from ownership. We have a championship roster right now and almost any trade will result in us taking a step backwards. I hope the team can see the big picture.

Evidence suggests otherwise.

[fansinceforever]

Do you guys really trust Horst and Lasry to get the job done this offseason?

I am very worried about this offseason. I am concerned Horst will make a panic move and shake up this roster, possibly due to pressure from ownership. We have a championship roster right now and almost any trade will result in us taking a step backwards. I hope the team can see the big picture.

We do?

I'm ok taking a step back during the RS if it provides upside when it matters.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Here's a deal similar to my Gallinari deal, but instead includes Oubre. I don't actually like him, but am interested in what others think. Suns were asking for a 1st for him at the deadline, didn't get it, then won 8 straight with him out. I think they'll dump him now like they did with Warren.

Bucks get: Tyus Jones
Grizzlies get: Ersan, #24

Bucks get: Kelly Oubre, Nemaj Bjelica, Justin James
Knicks get: Bledsoe
Suns get: Charlotte 2021- 2nd rounder via NY, Bucks 2022- 2nd rounder
Kings get: DJ Wilson, Dallas 2021- 1st rounder via NY

Chuck really talked me into Bjelica, and now I think he's undervalued. I think Justin James could develop under a real coach.

I don't think the suns were trying to trade Oubre for a 1st at the deadline. You have a source?

There is some speculation they could deal him this summer because he's on the last year of his deal and Cam Johnson was such a nice fit in his place as a little better floor stretcher. They also love Bridges and will have to pay him in 2 years.

But I don't think they are looking to just give him away because they are trying to win next year.

Oubre is an interesting player. Can look great but can also make boneheaded plays. Defensively he can lock a guy down but struggles some with discipline off the ball. Super high energy and his attitude was great for the culture in phoenix. I actually think he has some upside left even though he's been in the league for a while. He was so raw coming in and it's really just the finer details he needs to clean up to be a hell of a player. Now who knows if he'll ever be able to do it.

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[braindazer]

Hopefully the Bucks buy a first round pick .

[Ron Swanson]

How exactly would you "take a step back" in the regular season while becoming a better postseason team? You're basically arguing that we should get older and more veteran experienced as a roster, not younger.

[LuessiT]

Thon was a top 10 pick (and also flopped). We've had plenty of chances to draft good players, including some cases like John Collins where he just fell in our lap and we just refused to accept the gift. The overall drafting of this franchise since we got Giannis is laughably bad.

That year was also where we won 2 meaningless games at the end of the season which pushed us from drafting #7 to losing the coin toss and drafting #10. From Jamal Murray to Thon Maker. And I still remember the big debate tanking versus non-tanking right afterwards. Fun times.

Am I misremembering or didn’t the Bucks have Thon stupid high on their board (like higher than 10 stupid) and would’ve taken him at 7?

No idea. I just remember the livid discussions we had wether it mattered if we draft 7 or 10. We may still have ended up with Thon

[Fotis St]

Does the trade period starts at the same time as Free Agency period ? Are those separate periods ?

[Fotis St]

Thon's mobility did bother Ibaka and Lowry at the Series against Toronto. He is still in the NBA and with the way Modern NBA is parting away from slow foot 7fts that can't defend the P&R, he probably stays in the league for years.

Anyway I could not predict that a human being can't gain weight while eating 7 meals a day .... I didn't predict he probably **** "flushes his toilet" 20 times per day and can't gain a single pound ..

Maybe a flying elbow or a spining kick on Adebayo could turn the series around against the Heat