Kawhi didn't believe Toronto would repeat

[RoyceDa59]

Kawhi has decided on LA when he started feuding with San Antonio. We were a pit stop that ended in a championship, but he was always going home. Just needed to decide between Lakers and Clippers.

I think a 1 year deal would have been awesome, to try and run it back, but I’m still thankful for the championship.

[KrazyP]

With the way the ecf has gone so far it’s telling me
The Celtics weren’t that good either

Game 1 - OT.
Game 2 - decided by 5 pts and went down to the final minute.
Game 3 - Celtics just won.

WTF are you talking about?

Again, Raps lost Kawhi for nothing and were still good.

If you stripped Jokic, Tatum, Butler and Lebron off the conference finalists, would they win 60 games and go 7 games in the 2nd round? What does that tell you about the Raps supporting cast?

Kawhi misjudged the Raptors supporting cast much in the same way fans like you misjudge it.

He wanted to leave for LA, had nothing to do with the supporting cast. He had been wanting to go home for years now.

Raps were not good in the playoffs, period

Now you seem to be trying to change the discussion because your argument has no legs to stand on.

The discussion in this thread is about Kawhi believing the Raptors weren't good enough. The Raps were good enough. Period.

[Rust_Cohle]

Game 1 - OT.
Game 2 - decided by 5 pts and went down to the final minute.
Game 3 - Celtics just won.

WTF are you talking about?

Again, Raps lost Kawhi for nothing and were still good.

If you stripped Jokic, Tatum, Butler and Lebron off the conference finalists, would they win 60 games and go 7 games in the 2nd round? What does that tell you about the Raps supporting cast?

Kawhi misjudged the Raptors supporting cast much in the same way fans like you misjudge it.

He wanted to leave for LA, had nothing to do with the supporting cast. He had been wanting to go home for years now.

Raps were not good in the playoffs, period

Now you seem to be trying to change the discussion because your argument has no legs to stand on.

The discussion in this thread is about Kawhi believing the Raptors weren't good enough. The Raps were good enough. Period.

I already said they'd get to the finals with Kawhi, but they regressed in the playoffs this year across the board. OG was the only big bright spot if we are being honest. The Raptors were a buzzer beater away from losing in five games.

[Johnny Bball]

Read on Twitter

That would help their IQ problem quite a bit but is that source even legit? Lol

Not without cap space it isn't legit. Unless they think he signs for the vet min. If so... why the Clippers?

[Tor_Raps]

Read on Twitter

That would help their IQ problem quite a bit but is that source even legit? Lol

Not without cap space it isn't legit. Unless they think he signs for the vet min. If so... why the Clippers?

They would have the Mid Level Exception no? They can let Harrell walk and then use this to get Gasol. They need a Gasol or an actual Point Guard who can set up the offense.

[Johnny Bball]

That would help their IQ problem quite a bit but is that source even legit? Lol

Not without cap space it isn't legit. Unless they think he signs for the vet min. If so... why the Clippers?

They would have the Mid Level Exception no? They can let Harrell walk and then use this to get Gasol. They need a Gasol or an actual Point Guard who can set up the offense.

Yeah I don’t think Gasol stays in NA for the Mle and I think another team would offer him more Somewhere.

They only would gave their full mle if they didn’t sign their UFAs in Harrell and Morris which seems unlikely. Would be the taxpayer MLE. Zubac and Gasol seem redundant together and they are going to need someone like Harrell or they will get run out if the gym too much.

[scirocco53]

No one knows what went into his thought process other than Kawhi. He was presented with an opportunity to go to Los Angeles, and compete for a championship with Paul George as the second star, an excellent supporting cast, and a proven coach. To him it clearly made more sense to go to the Los Angeles Clippers, rather than the Lakers, or stay with Toronto. Why beat this dead horse? We won a championship with him here, so losing DeRozan for a 60 game rental + playoffs that brought us a championship was well worth it. Look at what Philly gave up in the Butler trade with Minneapolis, they got nothing, and he bolted. It would have been nice for them to run it back, but I personally enjoyed this years team without Kawhi (Celtics series excluded) more than last year.

[OakleyDokely]

If Toronto was in San Diego he would've signed a max deal. This was all about playing near home.

[KrazyP]

He wanted to leave for LA, had nothing to do with the supporting cast. He had been wanting to go home for years now.

Raps were not good in the playoffs, period

Now you seem to be trying to change the discussion because your argument has no legs to stand on.

The discussion in this thread is about Kawhi believing the Raptors weren't good enough. The Raps were good enough. Period.

I already said they'd get to the finals with Kawhi, but they regressed in the playoffs this year across the board. OG was the only big bright spot if we are being honest. The Raptors were a buzzer beater away from losing in five games.

You seem to adjusting your stance as your statements get disapproved. This is your quote:

This year's supporting cast wasn't as good as last year. Siakim wont magically shoot well from 3 just because of kawhi this season. The Raptors barely had anyone show up this year come playoff time. Gasol is washed up, FVV came back down to earth. Kawhi would take them to the finals, possibly a title, but the supporting in arguably got weaker this year. With or without kawhi.

The supporting cast didnt get weaker. Its the exact same cast with the addition of OG Anunoby (he was injured last year). They won 60 games and went to final minute of game 7 in round 2.

Which supporting cast currently around a star player could win 60 games and go 7 games in round 2? PLEASE NAME IT or stop responding.

[Rust_Cohle]

Now you seem to be trying to change the discussion because your argument has no legs to stand on.

The discussion in this thread is about Kawhi believing the Raptors weren't good enough. The Raps were good enough. Period.

I already said they'd get to the finals with Kawhi, but they regressed in the playoffs this year across the board. OG was the only big bright spot if we are being honest. The Raptors were a buzzer beater away from losing in five games.

You seem to adjusting your stance as your statements get disapproved. This is your quote:

This year's supporting cast wasn't as good as last year. Siakim wont magically shoot well from 3 just because of kawhi this season. The Raptors barely had anyone show up this year come playoff time. Gasol is washed up, FVV came back down to earth. Kawhi would take them to the finals, possibly a title, but the supporting in arguably got weaker this year. With or without kawhi.

The supporting cast didnt get weaker. Its the exact same cast with the addition of OG Anunoby (he was injured last year). They won 60 games and went to final minute of game 7 in round 2.

Which supporting cast currently around a star player could win 60 games and go 7 games in round 2? PLEASE NAME IT or stop responding.

Celtics are missing a top 3 player and in the ecf for one. The team DID NOT PLAY WELL IN THE PLAYOFFS. No one was expecting a championship from this year, but there was some dire ball
Played this season in the playoffs. The playoffs and regular season are a completely different animal. Siakim was all nba second team but come playoff time was one of the worst players on the floor with one the worst 3 Point shooting percentage in a series in nba history.

The supporting cast regressed, as a whole the team did not play well. Period.

[MixxSRC]

I already said they'd get to the finals with Kawhi, but they regressed in the playoffs this year across the board. OG was the only big bright spot if we are being honest. The Raptors were a buzzer beater away from losing in five games.

You seem to adjusting your stance as your statements get disapproved. This is your quote:

This year's supporting cast wasn't as good as last year. Siakim wont magically shoot well from 3 just because of kawhi this season. The Raptors barely had anyone show up this year come playoff time. Gasol is washed up, FVV came back down to earth. Kawhi would take them to the finals, possibly a title, but the supporting in arguably got weaker this year. With or without kawhi.

The supporting cast didnt get weaker. Its the exact same cast with the addition of OG Anunoby (he was injured last year). They won 60 games and went to final minute of game 7 in round 2.

Which supporting cast currently around a star player could win 60 games and go 7 games in round 2? PLEASE NAME IT or stop responding.

Celtics are missing a top 3 player and in the ecf for one. The team DID NOT PLAY WELL IN THE PLAYOFFS. No one was expecting a championship from this year, but there was some dire ball
Played this season in the playoffs. The playoffs and regular season are a completely different animal. Siakim was all nba second team but come playoff time was one of the worst players on the floor with one the worst 3 Point shooting percentage in a series in nba history.

The supporting cast regressed, as a whole the team did not play well. Period.

Irrelevant. With Kawhi on this roster it's again championship team. What's the point of having Kawhi if he doesn't improve your team? Weaker defender would guard Siakam with Kawhi on a team. Player don't regress in vacuum.

[agentzero2010]

Kawhi also believed trading away SGA, Gallinari, and 5 first round picks for PG 13% would help him win a title. not exactly a good talent evaluator.

i think that was uncle dennis' work.

clubs need to grow some balls and kick off family members from team affairs

yeah it was an act of desperation. they were more afraid of him going to the Lakers than returning to the Raptors. I agree though, no one in life should act out of desperation. they wanted him so bad they ignored common sense. Masai knew it was a waste of time to engage in this sort of thing. he wasn't about to be played like that. ironically the Clippers could've called his bluff and I'm 99% sure he still signs there regardless with or without PG13. simply put they got played which is what I said at the time. it's even more apparent now. i'll laugh if he walks next summer and he just might because he's completely emotionally detached. he'll do what's best for him as he should.

AD's max is going to be 30% of their cap at around 35 million per year. LeBron has a player option in 2021 at 41 million, what if he opts out and resigns for less money? 3 years 100 million? Lakers can tell everyone on their team to kicks rocks and they can offer Kawhi the max, 35% of the cap.

If Kawhi waltz to the Lakers and leaves the Clippers with a PG13% max (35% of cap) and no picks or young prospects, it would be the sweetest karma ever.

[TheAlchemist]

All I know is, if Marc Gasol is there answer...

I'm going to laugh myself to sleep for the next 3 months lol.

[prelude00]

I already said they'd get to the finals with Kawhi, but they regressed in the playoffs this year across the board. OG was the only big bright spot if we are being honest. The Raptors were a buzzer beater away from losing in five games.

You seem to adjusting your stance as your statements get disapproved. This is your quote:

This year's supporting cast wasn't as good as last year. Siakim wont magically shoot well from 3 just because of kawhi this season. The Raptors barely had anyone show up this year come playoff time. Gasol is washed up, FVV came back down to earth. Kawhi would take them to the finals, possibly a title, but the supporting in arguably got weaker this year. With or without kawhi.

The supporting cast didnt get weaker. Its the exact same cast with the addition of OG Anunoby (he was injured last year). They won 60 games and went to final minute of game 7 in round 2.

Which supporting cast currently around a star player could win 60 games and go 7 games in round 2? PLEASE NAME IT or stop responding.

Celtics are missing a top 3 player and in the ecf for one. The team DID NOT PLAY WELL IN THE PLAYOFFS. No one was expecting a championship from this year, but there was some dire ball
Played this season in the playoffs. The playoffs and regular season are a completely different animal. Siakim was all nba second team but come playoff time was one of the worst players on the floor with one the worst 3 Point shooting percentage in a series in nba history.

The supporting cast regressed, as a whole the team did not play well. Period.

Just curious, who's the top 3 player that the Celtics are missing? They don't even have anyone on their team that is top 10 in the NBA.

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[KrazyP]

I already said they'd get to the finals with Kawhi, but they regressed in the playoffs this year across the board. OG was the only big bright spot if we are being honest. The Raptors were a buzzer beater away from losing in five games.

You seem to adjusting your stance as your statements get disapproved. This is your quote:

This year's supporting cast wasn't as good as last year. Siakim wont magically shoot well from 3 just because of kawhi this season. The Raptors barely had anyone show up this year come playoff time. Gasol is washed up, FVV came back down to earth. Kawhi would take them to the finals, possibly a title, but the supporting in arguably got weaker this year. With or without kawhi.

The supporting cast didnt get weaker. Its the exact same cast with the addition of OG Anunoby (he was injured last year). They won 60 games and went to final minute of game 7 in round 2.

Which supporting cast currently around a star player could win 60 games and go 7 games in round 2? PLEASE NAME IT or stop responding.

Celtics are missing a top 3 player and in the ecf for one. The team DID NOT PLAY WELL IN THE PLAYOFFS. No one was expecting a championship from this year, but there was some dire ball
Played this season in the playoffs. The playoffs and regular season are a completely different animal. Siakim was all nba second team but come playoff time was one of the worst players on the floor with one the worst 3 Point shooting percentage in a series in nba history.

The supporting cast regressed, as a whole the team did not play well. Period.

Would the Celtics without Tatum be on pace to win 60 games? Celtics with Tatum werent even on this pace.

Would the Celtics without Tatum beat the Raps in round 2? Celtics with Tatum almost lost to the Raptors in round 2 (it came down to the final minute of game 7).

Your argument makes no logical sense. Period.

The team you say regressed badly is still better than any supporting cast any current star player has around them.....thats what the whole discussion is in this thread is about in case you've lost sight of it.

Im done with this thread as you have no argument here. You are just babbling because your ego is too big to admit you're wrong.

[hsb]

Winning a championship after dragging his way out of San Antonio must have been the opposite feeling of losing a 3-1 series lead in the second round after leaving a championship team in Toronto.

[Rust_Cohle]

You seem to adjusting your stance as your statements get disapproved. This is your quote:



The supporting cast didnt get weaker. Its the exact same cast with the addition of OG Anunoby (he was injured last year). They won 60 games and went to final minute of game 7 in round 2.

Which supporting cast currently around a star player could win 60 games and go 7 games in round 2? PLEASE NAME IT or stop responding.

Celtics are missing a top 3 player and in the ecf for one. The team DID NOT PLAY WELL IN THE PLAYOFFS. No one was expecting a championship from this year, but there was some dire ball
Played this season in the playoffs. The playoffs and regular season are a completely different animal. Siakim was all nba second team but come playoff time was one of the worst players on the floor with one the worst 3 Point shooting percentage in a series in nba history.

The supporting cast regressed, as a whole the team did not play well. Period.

Just curious, who's the top 3 player that the Celtics are missing? They don't even have anyone on their team that is top 10 in the NBA.

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Gordon Hayward

[prelude00]

Celtics are missing a top 3 player and in the ecf for one. The team DID NOT PLAY WELL IN THE PLAYOFFS. No one was expecting a championship from this year, but there was some dire ball
Played this season in the playoffs. The playoffs and regular season are a completely different animal. Siakim was all nba second team but come playoff time was one of the worst players on the floor with one the worst 3 Point shooting percentage in a series in nba history.

The supporting cast regressed, as a whole the team did not play well. Period.

Just curious, who's the top 3 player that the Celtics are missing? They don't even have anyone on their team that is top 10 in the NBA.

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Gordon Hayward

LMAO.

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[revvolutions]

Winning a championship after dragging his way out of San Antonio must have been the opposite feeling of losing a 3-1 series lead in the second round after leaving a championship team in Toronto.

he went both ways like tenet

[Rust_Cohle]

Just curious, who's the top 3 player that the Celtics are missing? They don't even have anyone on their team that is top 10 in the NBA.

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Gordon Hayward

LMAO.

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I meant top 3 on the Cletics, not in the league