Billy Donovan hired as next Bulls coach - Full coaching staff p43

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Tank, he didn't want to undergo coaching through a tank.

They just made the second round as a 5th seed in the west? How exactly are they going to just start tanking? They’ll get rid of CP3 but that team is already talented and they won’t be tanking, they’re going to rebuild the roster and give they keys to the younger guys, but no ones tanking in OKC. That team is better off than ours right now.

They want CP3 and Adams moved. Gallinari is a UFA they plan to allow to leave. Roberson is as well. That team is going to look a lot different next season if they can find a taker for Paul.

Yes, we all know that. But that doesn’t mean they’re tanking like you just told us they were. They will have a mother load of first round picks on top of whatever young talent they’ll get from Adams/CP3. That in itself is more attractive than our roster as it stands and will stay somewhat competitive. You’re missing the point.

[HomoSapien]

Geez AK really keeps his cards close to his chest. Has Donovan even been mentioned in serious links to us? He wasn’t even on the supposed short list a few days ago.

It’s like only a couple of people actually know what’s going on in there with no leaks. Impressive.

AK's making our beat reporters look silly!

[MrFortune3]

Geez AK really keeps his cards close to his chest. Has Donovan even been mentioned in serious links to us? He wasn’t even on the supposed short list a few days ago.

It’s like only a couple of people actually know what’s going on in there with no leaks. Impressive.

He was mentioned as someone they would pursue. Most did not believe he would consider the Bulls given their young roster and would go for either Philly or Indiana. Maybe New Orleans if he felt good about Zion.

[BeKuK]

Just got this breaking news here at 01:40am and I absolutely love it. Great news and great choice.

Thank you Bulls

[chicago paxsons]

Geez AK really keeps his cards close to his chest. Has Donovan even been mentioned in serious links to us? He wasn’t even on the supposed short list a few days ago.

It’s like only a couple of people actually know what’s going on in there with no leaks. Impressive.

When it was reported that donovan was coming back to okc, it was reported the bulls would be interested, but i never saw anything saying that they interviewed him or anything of that sort. Karnisovas keeping information like this locked up is incredibly impressive, albeit aggravating when you are waiting to hear news on the hiring process.

[NZB2323]

I've never really entertained the idea of bringing Bradley Beal here, but now it's something worth discussing. I don't think he's $11m better than Zach LaVine, but I think salary fillers + the 4th pick is a pretty damn fair trade in this draft. I don't necessarily love the LaVine/Beal fit considering neither can really play PG or SF, but maybe this is a scenario where we acquire talent and figure the rest out later.

See, what you not gonna do is get me excited, thinking about the possibilities. I'm a Bulls fan. I can only handle great news in stages. I'm not conditioned for all of this bright eyed optimism.

Bulls fans are seriously the sports equivalent of someone coming out of an abusive relationship. We don't know that we're pretty or smart or that we deserve nice things, but we do!

I think the Wizards can get Ben Simmons for Beal, which beats any offer we can make.

[HomoSapien]

They just made the second round as a 5th seed in the west? How exactly are they going to just start tanking? They’ll get rid of CP3 but that team is already talented and they won’t be tanking, they’re going to rebuild the roster and give they keys to the younger guys, but no ones tanking in OKC. That team is better off than ours right now.

They want CP3 and Adams moved. Gallinari is a UFA they plan to allow to leave. Roberson is as well. That team is going to look a lot different next season if they can find a taker for Paul.

Yes, we all know that. But that doesn’t mean they’re tanking like you just told us they were. They will have a mother load of first round picks on top of whatever young talent they’ll get from Adams/CP3. That in itself is more attractive than our roster as it stands and will stay somewhat competitive. You’re missing the point.

Semantics aside, I think if you remove CP3, Adams, and Gallinari it's really hard to see them being too competitive. SGA is good, but he's not carrying a roster and someone like Dort may end up looking worse when he's not being used as a support player.

[MrFortune3]

They just made the second round as a 5th seed in the west? How exactly are they going to just start tanking? They’ll get rid of CP3 but that team is already talented and they won’t be tanking, they’re going to rebuild the roster and give they keys to the younger guys, but no ones tanking in OKC. That team is better off than ours right now.

They want CP3 and Adams moved. Gallinari is a UFA they plan to allow to leave. Roberson is as well. That team is going to look a lot different next season if they can find a taker for Paul.

Yes, we all know that. But that doesn’t mean they’re tanking like you just told us they were. They will have a mother load of first round picks on top of whatever young talent they’ll get from Adams/CP3. That in itself is more attractive than our roster as it stands and will stay somewhat competitive. You’re missing the point.

I'm not missing any point. You seem to think their goal is to win next year when it is not.
The picks they have won't amount to much. They will have to tank to get top tier lotto picks.

https://www.slamonline.com/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder-draft-picks-from-2020-to-2026/

[weneeda2guard]

I also understand where everyone coming from with the assistants we were interviewing. But these guys were relative unknowns and no telling what they would have looked like as head coaches. Remember boylen looked better as a assistant too smh

We needed a guy with some pedigree and cache. Someone with a track record. And donovan has had more success than Atkinson. Not to mention its not a good look to get ran out of town when you have the makings of a superteam coming in Brooklyn. Says alot of the coach that the superstars ran him out. That wouldn't bold well in free.agency.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

They want CP3 and Adams moved. Gallinari is a UFA they plan to allow to leave. Roberson is as well. That team is going to look a lot different next season if they can find a taker for Paul.

Yes, we all know that. But that doesn’t mean they’re tanking like you just told us they were. They will have a mother load of first round picks on top of whatever young talent they’ll get from Adams/CP3. That in itself is more attractive than our roster as it stands and will stay somewhat competitive. You’re missing the point.

Semantics aside, I think if you remove CP3, Adams, and Gallinari it's really hard to see them being too competitive. SGA is good, but he's not carrying a roster and someone like Dort may end up looking worse when he's not being used as a support player.

They’re going to get something decent for Adams and CP3. At that stage, how much better (or worse) are they than our current roster? I think his interest in the Bulls is that we’re going to look to win now, and maybe shake up the roster to some degree. Woj also reported that part of his interest was in being able to partner with AK in retooling the team

[MrFortune3]

They want CP3 and Adams moved. Gallinari is a UFA they plan to allow to leave. Roberson is as well. That team is going to look a lot different next season if they can find a taker for Paul.

Yes, we all know that. But that doesn’t mean they’re tanking like you just told us they were. They will have a mother load of first round picks on top of whatever young talent they’ll get from Adams/CP3. That in itself is more attractive than our roster as it stands and will stay somewhat competitive. You’re missing the point.

Semantics aside, I think if you remove CP3, Adams, and Gallinari it's really hard to see them being too competitive. SGA is good, but he's not carrying a roster and someone like Dort may end up looking worse when he's not being used as a support player.

You take CP3 off the team, they're not making the playoffs. You take Adams off of they team and they don't win 40 games because he's their identity on the boards and defense. You let Gallo walk and they have little scoring to help SGA.

They want to shed salary and tank to get in a better position to develop their team. It's plain as day obvious and it's being damn near spelled out by all of the reporters that cover the Thunder. It was supposed to happen last year but no one would take CP3.

[FriedRise]

Wonder if it’s just easier to keep things under wraps during the pandemic when nobody’s in the office. I assume all interviews were done via Zoom so it’s not like these candidates could’ve been randomly spotted. Also, the old GarPax era leaks aren’t connected to AK, so guys like Cowley really don’t have the inside scoop anymore.

[HomoSapien]

Yes, we all know that. But that doesn’t mean they’re tanking like you just told us they were. They will have a mother load of first round picks on top of whatever young talent they’ll get from Adams/CP3. That in itself is more attractive than our roster as it stands and will stay somewhat competitive. You’re missing the point.

Semantics aside, I think if you remove CP3, Adams, and Gallinari it's really hard to see them being too competitive. SGA is good, but he's not carrying a roster and someone like Dort may end up looking worse when he's not being used as a support player.

They’re going to get something decent for Adams and CP3. At that stage, how much better (or worse) are they than our current roster? I think his interest in the Bulls is that we’re going to look to win now, and maybe shake up the roster to some degree. Woj also reported that part of his interest was in being able to partner with AK in retooling the team

I'm guessing they're going to get some combination of picks and young players that are struggling. There's a limited trade market for all of them in some ways because they make so much and probably would mostly interest contenders. Schroeder may be a casualty of this rebuild as well, even though he's in his prime. I'd be shocked if they weren't one of the worst teams next year, but who knows. They' surprised everyone this year.

[MrFortune3]

Yes, we all know that. But that doesn’t mean they’re tanking like you just told us they were. They will have a mother load of first round picks on top of whatever young talent they’ll get from Adams/CP3. That in itself is more attractive than our roster as it stands and will stay somewhat competitive. You’re missing the point.

Semantics aside, I think if you remove CP3, Adams, and Gallinari it's really hard to see them being too competitive. SGA is good, but he's not carrying a roster and someone like Dort may end up looking worse when he's not being used as a support player.

They’re going to get something decent for Adams and CP3. At that stage, how much better (or worse) are they than our current roster? I think his interest in the Bulls is that we’re going to look to win now, and maybe shake up the roster to some degree. Woj also reported that part of his interest was in being able to partner with AK in retooling the team

They're likely seeking draft picks for those 2, even if you get a player back for them, given their salary the impact of that player will be far less than CP3 and Adams. So they will still lose, which is their goal anyway.

AK and Donovan clearly have a shared vision of what they want the team to be. AK is not trying to tank.

[MrFortune3]

Wonder if it’s just easier to keep things under wraps during the pandemic when nobody’s in the office. I assume all interviews were done via Zoom so it’s not like these candidates could’ve been randomly spotted. Also, the old GarPax era leaks aren’t connected to AK, so guys like Cowley really don’t have the inside scoop anymore.

Also, AK and Evs don't have anyone connections to the Bulls beat writers so there are no leaks due to off the record conversations.

[chicago paxsons]

I also understand where everyone coming from with the assistants we were interviewing. But these guys were relative unknowns and no telling what they would have looked like as head coaches. Remember boylen looked better as a assistant too smh

We needed a guy with some pedigree and cache. Someone with a track record. And donovan has had more success than Atkinson. Not to mention its not a good look to get ran out of town when you have the makings of a superteam coming in Brooklyn. Says alot of the coach that the superstars ran him out. That wouldn't bold well in free.agency.

I agree except about boylen. He was an assistant with the rockets in the 90s and was an assistant under popovich for 2 years, other than that his assistant coach resume isn’t very good. Also when talking of his college head coaching experience at utah, i have heard of very few people who followed the team that have positive things to say of boylen. People liking his hiring as an associate head coach under hoiberg was based solely on his 2 years with the spurs. His coaching history is pretty awful overall.

[Ccwatercraft]

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I'm laughing so hard...just keeps on gaming!

I'm not much of a gamer but I have played Call of Duty a few times back in the day.

Is it really necessary to pick up that many weapons?

[MrFortune3]

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I'm laughing so hard...just keeps on gaming!

I'm not much of a gamer but I have played Call of Duty a few times back in the day.

Is it really necessary to pick up that many weapons?

In an action movie, when the hero leaves the guns behind and only carries his with low ammo. He doesn't get killed.
In a game where gamers are trying to win...you better pick up them damn weapons

[Just_Bullz]

We really don't need a CP3 here, he's better off chasing rings.

No to Beal too, amazing some folks can say Zach is padding his stats on a weak team and couldn't be the number 1 option while Beal is more or less in the same vein.

[MrFortune3]

I also understand where everyone coming from with the assistants we were interviewing. But these guys were relative unknowns and no telling what they would have looked like as head coaches. Remember boylen looked better as a assistant too smh

We needed a guy with some pedigree and cache. Someone with a track record. And donovan has had more success than Atkinson. Not to mention its not a good look to get ran out of town when you have the makings of a superteam coming in Brooklyn. Says alot of the coach that the superstars ran him out. That wouldn't bold well in free.agency.

I agree except about boylen. He was an assistant with the rockets in the 90s and was an assistant under popovich for 2 years, other than that his assistant coach resume isn’t very good. Also when talking of his college head coaching experience at utah, i have heard of very few people who followed the team that have positive things to say of boylen. People liking his hiring as an associate head coach under hoiberg was based solely on his 2 years with the spurs. His coaching history is pretty awful overall.

I think most assumed that given his previous HC and failing at it that he would learn from those mistakes, especially having coached under Pop.

Don't know why...but they assumed.