Nets Going Forward: Planning for Next Season

[DarkXaero]

KD was on the Joe Budden podcast, and said that he has been working out with 4-5 Nets players in LA every day. Dinwiddie is in LA right now, and I believe Levert said in a recent interview that he was also going to LA to work out. You can also assume Kyrie is there as well. KD said that he has been "hooping" every day now, and starting to feel like the player he was, but there's still long ways to go.

[Paradise]

KD was on the Joe Budden podcast, and said that he has been working out with 4-5 Nets players in LA every day. Dinwiddie is in LA right now, and I believe Levert said in a recent interview that he was also going to LA to work out. You can also assume Kyrie is there as well. KD said that he has been "hooping" every day now, and starting to feel like the player he was, but there's still long ways to go.

If KD has been sniping Joe Budden’s ex this whole time, we’re guaranteed a championship.

[ecuhus1981]

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Easy money!

[MrDollarBills]

KD was on the Joe Budden podcast, and said that he has been working out with 4-5 Nets players in LA every day. Dinwiddie is in LA right now, and I believe Levert said in a recent interview that he was also going to LA to work out. You can also assume Kyrie is there as well. KD said that he has been "hooping" every day now, and starting to feel like the player he was, but there's still long ways to go.

If KD has been sniping Joe Budden’s ex this whole time, we’re guaranteed a championship.

You can never have too many assets.

[ProspectPark]

If we traded for Holiday, we would have to pay him around $30 million in free agency. Does anyone else think it would be better to just use that $30 million and keep Dinwiddie and Allen?

Also...Would you guys be interested in a Taurean Prince for Kyle Anderson trade?

[Stone]

If we traded for Holiday, we would have to pay him around $30 million in free agency. Does anyone else think it would be better to just use that $30 million and keep Dinwiddie and Allen?

Also...Would you guys be interested in a Taurean Prince for Kyle Anderson trade?

Yes to keeping Big J and Spencer......

As much as I would live to see Kyle Anderson come back home to Jersey. I don't think Prince had a fair chance this season

[Prokorov]

If we traded for Holiday, we would have to pay him around $30 million in free agency. Does anyone else think it would be better to just use that $30 million and keep Dinwiddie and Allen?

Also...Would you guys be interested in a Taurean Prince for Kyle Anderson trade?

Dinwiddie and allen dont give us a better shot than Jrue does of winning a title. both are also replaceable... both already have guys on the roster who do 80-100% of what they do (Levert/Jordan). We have no one who does what Jrue does

[ProspectPark]

If we traded for Holiday, we would have to pay him around $30 million in free agency. Does anyone else think it would be better to just use that $30 million and keep Dinwiddie and Allen?

Also...Would you guys be interested in a Taurean Prince for Kyle Anderson trade?

Yes to keeping Big J and Spencer......

As much as I would live to see Kyle Anderson come back home to Jersey. I don't think Prince had a fair chance this season

I agree. We played Prince out of position and in a gimmicky defense where he probably wasn’t very comfortable. I would still trade him for Kyle Anderson tho. Kyle can put the ball on the floor, he’s solid from mid range, and an above average playmaker.

Another Jersey kid I hope we sign is MKG.

[MGrand15]

Slo-Mo is definitely the type of glue guy we need. Long defender who can guard 3s/4s who doesn't need shots. He can't shoot 3s at all so I wouldn't run to give assets for him but I really don't trust Prince. I don't think he has the motor or defense or decision making to be reliable.

We need to find a Jerami Grant type player ASAP. I was kind of hoping Rodi or Claxton would develop into that but I don't think we have time to find out.

[ProspectPark]

If we traded for Holiday, we would have to pay him around $30 million in free agency. Does anyone else think it would be better to just use that $30 million and keep Dinwiddie and Allen?

Also...Would you guys be interested in a Taurean Prince for Kyle Anderson trade?

Dinwiddie and allen dont give us a better shot than Jrue does of winning a title. both are also replaceable... both already have guys on the roster who do 80-100% of what they do (Levert/Jordan). We have no one who does what Jrue does

I wouldn’t hate a Holiday trade, but I would prefer to wait and see if someone better becomes available.

[MrDollarBills]

Whatever we do, it needs to be moves that produce short term results that do not actively harm this franchise in the future.

Look at Houston and the Clippers. Lost control of their picks and are left with rosters that aren't championship caliber that have little means to improve.

[vincecarter4pres]

Whatever we do, it needs to be moves that produce short term results that do not actively harm this franchise in the future.

Look at Houston and the Clippers. Lost control of their picks and are left with rosters that aren't championship caliber that have little means to improve.

Yup. If it brings us a championship, or true contention for 3 or 4 years, even if they don't win it all, it's OK if you lose one good pick as long as it doesn't turn into a generational talent. It's also OK to lose a couple young pieces, there is cost to doing business. But Marks absolutely cannot let history repeat itself with a Billy King level trade, nor what the Clippers and Houston have done recently.

[Prokorov]

If we traded for Holiday, we would have to pay him around $30 million in free agency. Does anyone else think it would be better to just use that $30 million and keep Dinwiddie and Allen?

Also...Would you guys be interested in a Taurean Prince for Kyle Anderson trade?

Yes to keeping Big J and Spencer......

As much as I would live to see Kyle Anderson come back home to Jersey. I don't think Prince had a fair chance this season

I agree. We played Prince out of position and in a gimmicky defense where he probably wasn’t very comfortable. I would still trade him for Kyle Anderson tho. Kyle can put the ball on the floor, he’s solid from mid range, and an above average playmaker.

Another Jersey kid I hope we sign is MKG.

MKG was kyrie highschool teammate too. and he defends. great fit

[Prokorov]

If we traded for Holiday, we would have to pay him around $30 million in free agency. Does anyone else think it would be better to just use that $30 million and keep Dinwiddie and Allen?

Also...Would you guys be interested in a Taurean Prince for Kyle Anderson trade?

Dinwiddie and allen dont give us a better shot than Jrue does of winning a title. both are also replaceable... both already have guys on the roster who do 80-100% of what they do (Levert/Jordan). We have no one who does what Jrue does

I wouldn’t hate a Holiday trade, but I would prefer to wait and see if someone better becomes available.

The problem with that is we lose the #19 pick to trade (players drafted typically have 75% the value of the actual pick) and someone better then Jrue is unattainable with how weak our assets are. unless someone tried to force their way here someone like Jrue or Lavine or Beal (even he is a big stretch) is as good as it gets

[MrDollarBills]

Whatever we do, it needs to be moves that produce short term results that do not actively harm this franchise in the future.

Look at Houston and the Clippers. Lost control of their picks and are left with rosters that aren't championship caliber that have little means to improve.

Yup. If it brings us a championship, or true contention for 3 or 4 years, even if they don't win it all, it's OK if you lose one good pick as long as it doesn't turn into a generational talent. It's also OK to lose a couple young pieces, there is cost to doing business. But Marks absolutely cannot let history repeat itself with a Billy King level trade, nor what the Clippers and Houston have done recently.

1 or 2 picks and young pieces to win a title within 3-4 years is a small price to pay. we can recoup those.

What Houston and the Clippers did...you can't recoup that. They just took out a mortgage on their futures.

I kind of hope Houston decides to blow it up so we can try to snag Covington, but they'll stay the course. The Clippers could be really screwed if Leonard decides to say eff it if they don't make the finals next season.

[Prokorov]

Whatever we do, it needs to be moves that produce short term results that do not actively harm this franchise in the future.

Look at Houston and the Clippers. Lost control of their picks and are left with rosters that aren't championship caliber that have little means to improve.

Yup. If it brings us a championship, or true contention for 3 or 4 years, even if they don't win it all, it's OK if you lose one good pick as long as it doesn't turn into a generational talent. It's also OK to lose a couple young pieces, there is cost to doing business. But Marks absolutely cannot let history repeat itself with a Billy King level trade, nor what the Clippers and Houston have done recently.

1 or 2 picks and young pieces to win a title within 3-4 years is a small price to pay. we can recoup those.

What Houston and the Clippers did...you can't recoup that. They just took out a mortgage on their futures.

I kind of hope Houston decides to blow it up so we can try to snag Covington, but they'll stay the course. The Clippers could be really screwed if Leonard decides to say eff it if they don't make the finals next season.

clipper would be ok even giving up that huge haul if KAwhi was locked in for 4 years with no PO. issue is his opt out. they can deal george for a couple assets to minimize the damage this offseason

[TheNetsFan]

Yup. If it brings us a championship, or true contention for 3 or 4 years, even if they don't win it all, it's OK if you lose one good pick as long as it doesn't turn into a generational talent. It's also OK to lose a couple young pieces, there is cost to doing business. But Marks absolutely cannot let history repeat itself with a Billy King level trade, nor what the Clippers and Houston have done recently.

1 or 2 picks and young pieces to win a title within 3-4 years is a small price to pay. we can recoup those.

What Houston and the Clippers did...you can't recoup that. They just took out a mortgage on their futures.

I kind of hope Houston decides to blow it up so we can try to snag Covington, but they'll stay the course. The Clippers could be really screwed if Leonard decides to say eff it if they don't make the finals next season.

clipper would be ok even giving up that huge haul if KAwhi was locked in for 4 years with no PO. issue is his opt out. they can deal george for a couple assets to minimize the damage this offseason

Houston can recover by starting a rebuild sooner rather than later. They can bring in a lot of talent/assets if they deal Harden, RoCo & Westbrook. A team like the Knicks would probably back up the truck for either one of their big names. If Houston waits, they run the risk of either player starting to break down & have fewer controllable or valuable years left on their contract. The PG/Kawhi opt outs pose a problem, because we've already seen both players either leave money on the table or force their way to a team of their choice. Unless you're a contender willing to make one strong push like Toronto did, it's risky to give up a lot for Kawhi/PG unless you somehow know they'll stay.

[ProspectPark]

Dinwiddie and allen dont give us a better shot than Jrue does of winning a title. both are also replaceable... both already have guys on the roster who do 80-100% of what they do (Levert/Jordan). We have no one who does what Jrue does

I wouldn’t hate a Holiday trade, but I would prefer to wait and see if someone better becomes available.

The problem with that is we lose the #19 pick to trade (players drafted typically have 75% the value of the actual pick) and someone better then Jrue is unattainable with how weak our assets are. unless someone tried to force their way here someone like Jrue or Lavine or Beal (even he is a big stretch) is as good as it gets

The problem with Holiday is he only has a year left on his contract and then becomes a free agent the same year as Giannis, Kawhi, LeBron, PG...etc. There will be so many teams with cap space that strike out on the big names. All it takes is one team to offer Holiday 4 years $35 million and he could walk. I don’t want a player who isn’t even that elite offensively to hold our franchise hostage during our championship window. If he walks, we are so over the cap that we would have very little flexibility to improve the team.

I doubt Sean Marks will want to create a scenario where he either has to pay a non-superstar 30 year old undersized guard $35 million for 4 years or let him walk for nothing.

Our biggest need right now is a stretch 5 that can protect the rim. We can get by with LeVert, Dinwiddie, Prince, Temple, and TLC guarding the other team’s best perimeter players. If we move Dinwiddie and Allen, a Serge Ibaka or John Collins type should be the target. If you want everyone’s efficiency to go up, clear out the paint and Dinwiddie, LeVert, and Kyrie won’t have to worry about a rim protector waiting for them on every drive.

[MrDollarBills]

I wouldn’t hate a Holiday trade, but I would prefer to wait and see if someone better becomes available.

The problem with that is we lose the #19 pick to trade (players drafted typically have 75% the value of the actual pick) and someone better then Jrue is unattainable with how weak our assets are. unless someone tried to force their way here someone like Jrue or Lavine or Beal (even he is a big stretch) is as good as it gets

The problem with Holiday is he only has a year left on his contract and then becomes a free agent the same year as Giannis, Kawhi, LeBron, PG...etc. There will be so many teams with cap space that strike out on the big names. All it takes is one team to offer Holiday 4 years $35 million and he could walk. I don’t want a player who isn’t even that elite offensively to hold our franchise hostage during our championship window. If he walks, we are so over the cap that we would have very little flexibility to improve the team.

I doubt Sean Marks will want to create a scenario where he either has to pay a non-superstar 30 year old undersized guard $35 million for 4 years or let him walk for nothing.

Our biggest need right now is a stretch 5 that can protect the rim. We can get by with LeVert, Dinwiddie, Prince, Temple, and TLC guarding the other team’s best perimeter players. If we move Dinwiddie and Allen, a Serge Ibaka or John Collins type should be the target. If you want everyone’s efficiency to go up, clear out the paint and Dinwiddie, LeVert, and Kyrie won’t have to worry about a rim protector waiting for them on every drive.

I disagree, we need a competent perimeter defender that can defend SG/SF/PF more than we need a stretch 5. Dinwiddie and Irving had no problem getting to the rim with Allen and Jordan on the floor, and LeVert's game has changed to where he is going for more mid range paint shots than hard driving lay ups. if anything, it just makes it easier for us if the big comes over to help, thats an alley oop or a dish and dunk every single time.

I agree with your assessment of trading for Jrue Holiday though.

[ProspectPark]

The problem with that is we lose the #19 pick to trade (players drafted typically have 75% the value of the actual pick) and someone better then Jrue is unattainable with how weak our assets are. unless someone tried to force their way here someone like Jrue or Lavine or Beal (even he is a big stretch) is as good as it gets

The problem with Holiday is he only has a year left on his contract and then becomes a free agent the same year as Giannis, Kawhi, LeBron, PG...etc. There will be so many teams with cap space that strike out on the big names. All it takes is one team to offer Holiday 4 years $35 million and he could walk. I don’t want a player who isn’t even that elite offensively to hold our franchise hostage during our championship window. If he walks, we are so over the cap that we would have very little flexibility to improve the team.

I doubt Sean Marks will want to create a scenario where he either has to pay a non-superstar 30 year old undersized guard $35 million for 4 years or let him walk for nothing.

Our biggest need right now is a stretch 5 that can protect the rim. We can get by with LeVert, Dinwiddie, Prince, Temple, and TLC guarding the other team’s best perimeter players. If we move Dinwiddie and Allen, a Serge Ibaka or John Collins type should be the target. If you want everyone’s efficiency to go up, clear out the paint and Dinwiddie, LeVert, and Kyrie won’t have to worry about a rim protector waiting for them on every drive.

I disagree, we need a competent perimeter defender that can defend SG/SF/PF more than we need a stretch 5. Dinwiddie and Irving had no problem getting to the rim with Allen and Jordan on the floor, and LeVert's game has changed to where he is going for more mid range paint shots than hard driving lay ups. if anything, it just makes it easier for us if the big comes over to help, thats an alley oop or a dish and dunk every single time.

I agree with your assessment of trading for Jrue Holiday though.

Who would you rather get Jrue Holiday or John Collins? I would rather get John Collins. Or if the 6ers are really desperate for a playmaker, we could probably get Thybulle from them who makes $3.5 million for the next 3 years. Elton Brand is under a lot of pressure right now, They need a PG, and not many are available.