The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7)

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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#461 » by JLei » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:39 am

Honestly loss is on Vogel but at least he figured it out by the end.

Watching Jokic struggle to score while being guarded by Caruso and Rondo in the zone was funny. Please go back to switching that PnR it/ zone.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#462 » by tone wone » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:40 am

Well, it seems like LA's weak halfcourt offense may finally catch up to them. Just nothing really for 2 games
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#463 » by Pelly24 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:40 am

LeBron man. For me the question about this whole team has been about whether LeBron can still be an elite bucket getter/scorer. He's getting a lot of points on ridiculous efficiency, but they are buckets that kind of come easily or they don't come. There are times over this year where it's been like, "Ok, now LeBron needs to go off for like 20 points or something." But it seems like he simply can't do it. He's 35 now so it's whatever, the fact that he's been so good for this long is amazing. Lakers are still holding the advantage, but if LeBron can't deliver that barrage of points in pivotal moments it will be night night, because Jokic—and Murray—absolutely can. AD got the Lakers two games so far, now LeBron has to grab a couple and more.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#464 » by Heej » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:41 am

Murray is gonna be better than Dame and Kyrie. He might reach 95% of Steph and that's insane to think next to Joker. I think this Nuggets team might be the dynasty of the 20s unless Luka has something to say about it.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#465 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:41 am

JLei wrote:Honestly loss is on Vogel but at least he figured it out by the end.

Watching Jokic struggle to score while being guarded by Caruso and Rondo in the zone was funny. Please go back to switching that PnR it/ zone.


You really think the zone is a repeatable thing? Jokic is gonna pick it apart. I think it only worked because it was sprung as a surprise.
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Post#466 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:41 am

Pelly24 wrote:LeBron man. For me the question about this whole team has been about whether LeBron can still be an elite bucket getter/scorer. He's getting a lot of points on ridiculous efficiency, but they are buckets that kind of come easily or they don't come. There are times over this year where it's been like, "Ok, now LeBron needs to go off for like 20 points or something." But it seems like he simply can't do it. He's 35 now so it's whatever, the fact that he's been so good for this long is amazing. Lakers are still holding the advantage, but if LeBron can't deliver that barrage of points in pivotal moments it will be night night, because Jokic—and Murray—absolutely can. AD got the Lakers two games so far, now LeBron has to grab a couple and more.


There were times when it was stagnant but he was great in the fourth
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Post#467 » by Greyhound » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:42 am

Davis really started feeling himself after last game. This was a duck of a performance from him. He got his first of 2 rebounds in the last five minutes of the game. Completely unacceptable from an all NBA big.

He rotated late on guard attacks at the basket all night long.

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Post#468 » by MisterHibachi » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:42 am

Heej wrote:Murray is gonna be better than Dame and Kyrie. He might reach 95% of Steph and that's insane to think next to Joker. I think this Nuggets team might be the dynasty of the 20s unless Luka has something to say about it.


This Denver offense is like if Dirk and Nash stayed together.
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Post#469 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:43 am

JLei wrote:Honestly loss is on Vogel but at least he figured it out by the end.

Watching Jokic struggle to score while being guarded by Caruso and Rondo in the zone was funny. Please go back to switching that PnR it/ zone.

They didn't figure out anything. They scored vast majority of 4th quarter points in transition and Denver won't be careless to such degree next time
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Post#470 » by GSP » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:44 am

Ad had the highest +/- on La LMAOOOOO

that was a bad game from him i dont care how many points he put up
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#471 » by yoyoboy » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:44 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
JLei wrote:Honestly loss is on Vogel but at least he figured it out by the end.

Watching Jokic struggle to score while being guarded by Caruso and Rondo in the zone was funny. Please go back to switching that PnR it/ zone.


You really think the zone is a repeatable thing? Jokic is gonna pick it apart. I think it only worked because it was sprung as a surprise.

Yeah that’s my biggest fear too. I don’t think it’s sustainable at all. Denver’s going to be ready for it next game and Jokic will make them pay. You need to just switch that PnR.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#472 » by Heej » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:44 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
Heej wrote:Murray is gonna be better than Dame and Kyrie. He might reach 95% of Steph and that's insane to think next to Joker. I think this Nuggets team might be the dynasty of the 20s unless Luka has something to say about it.


This Denver offense is like if Dirk and Nash stayed together.

That's a damn good comparison. If MPJ pans out this Lakers dynasty in the making might get killed as early as next season lmaooo
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#473 » by JLei » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:44 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
JLei wrote:Honestly loss is on Vogel but at least he figured it out by the end.

Watching Jokic struggle to score while being guarded by Caruso and Rondo in the zone was funny. Please go back to switching that PnR it/ zone.


You really think the zone is a repeatable thing? Jokic is gonna pick it apart. I think it only worked because it was sprung as a surprise.


I think they can throw it in and mess up with tempo. Especially throwing it in late.

I like switching the pick and roll and then immediately going zone as Jokic tries to get to the elbow. Get them into late clock and make mistakes.

Taxes Lebron a lot as the reader and primary rim protector. But he was brilliant in the 4th on D.

I like zone a lot especially if they are walking the ball up the court/ waiting for Jokic as he plods up the court. Zone is easily picked apart if you got 24 seconds. But if you got the defenders the Lakers got who can rotate hard once get that first pass in you can get a lot of shot clock violations/ turnovers.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#474 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:46 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
JLei wrote:Honestly loss is on Vogel but at least he figured it out by the end.

Watching Jokic struggle to score while being guarded by Caruso and Rondo in the zone was funny. Please go back to switching that PnR it/ zone.


You really think the zone is a repeatable thing? Jokic is gonna pick it apart. I think it only worked because it was sprung as a surprise.


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You cant do anything against a zone unless ur teammates know what to do as well

But th e nugfets have a history of figuring stuff like that out so they prollt will be fine, but we'll see
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#475 » by GSP » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:47 am

Heej wrote:Murray is gonna be better than Dame and Kyrie. He might reach 95% of Steph and that's insane to think next to Joker. I think this Nuggets team might be the dynasty of the 20s unless Luka has something to say about it.


I think youre overrating Murray TBH.

He benefits alot playing next to Jokics screening, gravity and passing. Hes a great pick and roll guard but he eats off the Jokic Dhos.

Put guards like Dame, Booker, Beal, Kyrie etc. next to Jokic and theyd look alot better too
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#476 » by Pelly24 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:47 am

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Pelly24 wrote:LeBron man. For me the question about this whole team has been about whether LeBron can still be an elite bucket getter/scorer. He's getting a lot of points on ridiculous efficiency, but they are buckets that kind of come easily or they don't come. There are times over this year where it's been like, "Ok, now LeBron needs to go off for like 20 points or something." But it seems like he simply can't do it. He's 35 now so it's whatever, the fact that he's been so good for this long is amazing. Lakers are still holding the advantage, but if LeBron can't deliver that barrage of points in pivotal moments it will be night night, because Jokic—and Murray—absolutely can. AD got the Lakers two games so far, now LeBron has to grab a couple and more.


There were times when it was stagnant but he was great in the fourth


He was good but like three of those buckets came in transition. But in halfcourt offense, geez he's got almost no answers now if he can't physically overpower guys. It's disappointing, I thought at this point he'd be rock-solid.

Jamal Murray has as much guts as I've ever seen from anyone and his talent is really looking like it could be top-10 player level. Whether he'll actualize that talent on a consistent basis after this year is something to wait and see, but what he's literally capable of at his best is amazing.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#477 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:47 am

You think they might put bron on murray?

A jokic on bron switch outside late shotclock isnt that scary, and AD can contain murray as well
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#478 » by Pelly24 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:48 am

GSP wrote:
Heej wrote:Murray is gonna be better than Dame and Kyrie. He might reach 95% of Steph and that's insane to think next to Joker. I think this Nuggets team might be the dynasty of the 20s unless Luka has something to say about it.


I think youre overrating Murray TBH.

He benefits alot playing next to Jokics screening, gravity and passing. Hes a great pick and roll guard but he eats off the Jokic Dhos.

Put guards like Dame, Booker, Beal, Kyrie etc. next to Jokic and theyd look alot better too


I'll say it's def. no given. Dame is just ridiculous and will go down as one of the best scoring guards ever I think. But I def. think he's shown a level of talent similar to both of those guys. Also yes, these guys would look incredible next to Joker, but you still gotta hit the shots. Shoutout to Murray
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#479 » by Baski » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:48 am

How'd AD have 0 rebounds halfway through the 4th?

This seemed like a well needed game. They have a lot they can review and focus on improving next game. Number 1 being rebounding.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 7) 

Post#480 » by nzahir » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:49 am

6/26 from 3 is a joke

I love AC, but you can’t play him too much and Rondo (who will play too much sadly) on this team

We need more shooting god dammit

Kuzma is just not a great fit. His defense and cutting are his best traits now, but not a great fit

Hope Kuzma, 1st, McGee, and Avery can get us something

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