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Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread

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What kind of player do you think we need most?

Point Guard
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Scoring Guard
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Great Shooter
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3&D Wing
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1461 » by cedric76 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:45 pm

Knowing weham, we ll draft AARON NESMITH

Weham wet dream

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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1462 » by KillMonger » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:15 pm

seems like RJ is making some improvements to the shot



it's still in an empty gym but you can't say he isn't trying to put in the work
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Post#1463 » by Bensational » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:26 pm

Looks like he has a bad habit of hopping into a lot of his shots. I feel like he'll be called for a lot of travelling violations if they don't iron that out. His shot and release is slow, but the form looks better and it's going in, so good to see the work paying off.
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Post#1464 » by The Effect » Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:47 pm

KillMonger wrote:seems like RJ is making some improvements to the shot



it's still in an empty gym but you can't say he isn't trying to put in the work

Hes one of the 3-4 guys id be happy to come with on draft day
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1465 » by cedric76 » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:21 pm

cedric76 wrote:Knowing weham, we ll draft AARON NESMITH

Weham wet dream

Future lineup 2022

Fultz
NESMITH
Chuma
Ji
Mo


Could NESMITH be the next klay? Even a poor klay would do
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1466 » by MagicFan101 » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:37 pm

cedric76 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Knowing weham, we ll draft AARON NESMITH

Weham wet dream

Future lineup 2022

Fultz
NESMITH
Chuma
Ji
Mo


Could NESMITH be the next klay? Even a poor klay would do


I’m never going to set those expectations on a kid expected to go late / outside the lottery in a weak draft class.

However ... My interest in Nesmith as a someone people will regret passing on is growing.

If he is sitting there at #15 I will be very pleased if we take him.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1467 » by Ducklett » Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:51 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Knowing weham, we ll draft AARON NESMITH

Weham wet dream

Future lineup 2022

Fultz
NESMITH
Chuma
Ji
Mo


Could NESMITH be the next klay? Even a poor klay would do


I’m never going to set those expectations on a kid expected to go late / outside the lottery in a weak draft class.

However ... My interest in Nesmith as a someone people will regret passing on is growing.

If he is sitting there at #15 I will be very pleased if we take him.


All of the stats love Nesmith. I hope we draft him.
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1468 » by basketballRob » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:23 am

Ducklett wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Could NESMITH be the next klay? Even a poor klay would do


I’m never going to set those expectations on a kid expected to go late / outside the lottery in a weak draft class.

However ... My interest in Nesmith as a someone people will regret passing on is growing.

If he is sitting there at #15 I will be very pleased if we take him.


All of the stats love Nesmith. I hope we draft him.
Yes except that all his stats were against really bad teams before conference play. Last season when playing tougher competition he shot less that 40% from the floor.

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Post#1469 » by Ducklett » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:11 am

basketballRob wrote:
Ducklett wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
I’m never going to set those expectations on a kid expected to go late / outside the lottery in a weak draft class.

However ... My interest in Nesmith as a someone people will regret passing on is growing.

If he is sitting there at #15 I will be very pleased if we take him.


All of the stats love Nesmith. I hope we draft him.
Yes except that all his stats were against really bad teams before conference play. Last season when playing tougher competition he shot less that 40% from the floor.

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Uh... He played one conference game where he went 18-7 with 3 steals while shooting 66% from 3 on 6 attempts. Yeah, what a horrible stat line...
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Post#1470 » by zaymon » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:58 am

Ducklett wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Ducklett wrote:
All of the stats love Nesmith. I hope we draft him.
Yes except that all his stats were against really bad teams before conference play. Last season when playing tougher competition he shot less that 40% from the floor.

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Uh... He played one conference game where he went 18-7 with 3 steals while shooting 66% from 3 on 6 attempts. Yeah, what a horrible stat line...

Thompson was a lot smarter and better passer coming out of college. I dont think they are all that similar outside shooting, and Nesmith numbers could be fluke in some capacity. Last year he was 33 % and this year its on only 115 attempts.
Aaron Gordon shot 40 % from 3 last year during november-december on 113 attempts.
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Post#1471 » by cedric76 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:11 am

zaymon wrote:
Ducklett wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Yes except that all his stats were against really bad teams before conference play. Last season when playing tougher competition he shot less that 40% from the floor.

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Uh... He played one conference game where he went 18-7 with 3 steals while shooting 66% from 3 on 6 attempts. Yeah, what a horrible stat line...

Thompson was a lot smarter and better passer coming out of college. I dont think they are all that similar outside shooting, and Nesmith numbers could be fluke in some capacity. Last year he was 33 % and this year its on only 115 attempts.
Aaron Gordon shot 40 % from 3 last year during november-december on 113 attempts.


Not saying he ll be as good as klay, but he could be a great 3&d guy like him

A better version than buddy hield maybe

He has the long wingspan that weham love and he could fit perfectly next to Fultz and chuma
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Post#1472 » by zaymon » Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:02 am

cedric76 wrote:
zaymon wrote:
Ducklett wrote:
Uh... He played one conference game where he went 18-7 with 3 steals while shooting 66% from 3 on 6 attempts. Yeah, what a horrible stat line...

Thompson was a lot smarter and better passer coming out of college. I dont think they are all that similar outside shooting, and Nesmith numbers could be fluke in some capacity. Last year he was 33 % and this year its on only 115 attempts.
Aaron Gordon shot 40 % from 3 last year during november-december on 113 attempts.


Not saying he ll be as good as klay, but he could be a great 3&d guy like him

A better version than buddy hield maybe

He has the long wingspan that weham love and he could fit perfectly next to Fultz and chuma

I dont think he is anywhere near Hield as a playmaker. I see worse version of Danny Green. I was higher on Nesmith when he was projected to go second round. I have him late first round on my big board.
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Post#1473 » by cedric76 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:32 am

zaymon wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
zaymon wrote:Thompson was a lot smarter and better passer coming out of college. I dont think they are all that similar outside shooting, and Nesmith numbers could be fluke in some capacity. Last year he was 33 % and this year its on only 115 attempts.
Aaron Gordon shot 40 % from 3 last year during november-december on 113 attempts.


Not saying he ll be as good as klay, but he could be a great 3&d guy like him

A better version than buddy hield maybe

He has the long wingspan that weham love and he could fit perfectly next to Fultz and chuma

I dont think he is anywhere near Hield as a playmaker. I see worse version of Danny Green. I was higher on Nesmith when he was projected to go second round. I have him late first round on my big board.


let s wish that danny green is his floor
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1474 » by pepe1991 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:20 pm

cedric76 wrote:
zaymon wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Not saying he ll be as good as klay, but he could be a great 3&d guy like him

A better version than buddy hield maybe

He has the long wingspan that weham love and he could fit perfectly next to Fultz and chuma

I dont think he is anywhere near Hield as a playmaker. I see worse version of Danny Green. I was higher on Nesmith when he was projected to go second round. I have him late first round on my big board.


let s wish that danny green is his floor


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Post#1475 » by cedric76 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:43 pm

Nesmith is my pick at #15

i like other players in that range but I think he can be our starting SG next to Fultz+Chuma as soon as Evan is traded
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Post#1476 » by zaymon » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:42 pm

cedric76 wrote:Nesmith is my pick at #15

i like other players in that range but I think he can be our starting SG next to Fultz+Chuma as soon as Evan is traded

I dont mind Nesmith, but in second round. Even Green as superior player coming of college was selected #46. I would take Isaiah Joe in the second round over Nesmith in first.
Compare Nesmith to Bane. Both are very good movement shooters, but Bane is smarter, stronger, better ball handler and passer. Only thing Nesmith has over Bane is wingspan imo.
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Post#1477 » by Def Swami » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:33 pm

RJ Hampton at #15 is the most John Hammond draft pick.
RJ Hampton's improving jumper: Buying

One of the biggest challenges for evaluators in 2020 is assessing prospects' improvement since their final game, considering the extended length of this year's layoff. RJ Hampton hasn't played since January 12, over eight months ago. That's an enormous amount of time for a teenager to improve his jump shot, particularly during a pandemic, when social activities and other distractions are limited.

SNY's Ian Begley spoke with former NBA shooting specialist Mike Miller, who spent last year as an assistant under Penny Hardaway at Memphis and is now training a potential lottery pick in Hampton. Miller made some noteworthy comments regarding Hampton's shooting, a giant swing skill for the 6'5" combo guard.

"With him and the way he plays, if he shoots—which I'm pretty confident in—in the next two-three years he'll be a high-30s, low-40s percent three-point shooter, he'll be one of the best guards in the league," Miller told Begley.

"The consistencies I've seen with him, the stuff that he's worked on, it's the same stuff that I've worked on with tons of shooters in the league and I've seen the transformation, so I'm not guessing."

While all trainers tout their students, Miller's level of confidence is quite persuasive, particularly given his credibility and reputation for connecting with young players.

In 19 NBL games (including exhibitions), Hampton shot 15-of-53 from three and a promising 76.2 percent from the free-throw line. To suggest that in a few years he could go from capable to proficient isn't far-fetched. From what we saw overseas, Hampton could make outside shots, just not consistently.

Given his explosiveness attacking the basket and playmaking ability off the dribble, he doesn't need to shoot at Mike Miller levels. Even reaching the 35.0 percent three-point mark on average volume could go a long way for Hampton.

While there are scouts who've cooled on him, it also wouldn't be surprising if Hampton were able to sway one lottery team that's willing to bet on his jump-shot development.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2909528-2020-nba-draft-buying-or-selling-latest-rumors
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Post#1478 » by Def Swami » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:41 pm

In that same article, there's a suggestion that multiple teams in the top 10 are looking to trade down. I think if there's a player that the Magic really like, there should be an opportunity to trade up to get the player.

Atlanta Hawks: Buying

According to ESPN's Tim Bontemps, the Hawks are among the teams most expect will be active in trade talks with their pick. I'm buying Atlanta's willingness to make a move, given the front office's recent track record of draft-day swapping and the team's interest in moving up the standings.

The Hawks will presumably try to acquire a veteran or an immediate contributor like Spencer Dinwiddie or Buddy Hield, players who may be available. The alternative would be trying to package their young wings and forwards like De'Andre Hunter, Cam Reddish and Kevin Huerter to move up for a scorer like Anthony Edwards, though this admittedly sounds unrealistic.

Regardless, I suspect the Hawks will try to move from the No. 6 spot.


Detroit Pistons: Buying

Sources tell Bleacher Report that the Pistons have made it known the No. 7 pick is on the table.

It would make sense. None of the team's young players seem guaranteed to blow up, so Detroit may want multiple chances in this draft to make a splash, as opposed to putting its eggs in one basket at No. 7, particularly if the Pistons see the same caliber prospect available in the teens.

Detroit could be compensated with an additional pick or player for moving down into the late lottery or teens, where it could take a ball-handler or scorer like Kira Lewis Jr., Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton or Tyrese Maxey.


Phoenix Suns: Buying

Bontemps also says league insiders expect Phoenix to shop its pick at No. 10. I'm buying as well. After going 8-0 in the bubble, the Suns figure to feel confident about their chances of moving up next season's standings, and chances are, the No. 10 pick won't help them.

No. 10 is a spot that teams may look to trade up to for players like Killian Hayes, Patrick Williams, Isaac Okoro or Devin Vassell.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2909528-2020-nba-draft-buying-or-selling-latest-rumors
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Re: Official 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1479 » by tiderulz » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:37 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
zaymon wrote:I dont think he is anywhere near Hield as a playmaker. I see worse version of Danny Green. I was higher on Nesmith when he was projected to go second round. I have him late first round on my big board.


let s wish that danny green is his floor


Green does nothing but make open shots and plays solid defense, but had luxury to spend whole his career being around star players. There was not single point of his career where he did not have at least two Hall of Fame players playing with him.

Danny green makes open shots? you could have fooled me.
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Post#1480 » by drsd » Wed Sep 23, 2020 5:27 pm

KillMonger wrote:seems like RJ is making some improvements to the shot

...

it's still in an empty gym but you can't say he isn't trying to put in the work


He is pushing the ball. This reminds me of Fultz' rookie year shot.


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