Billy Donovan hired as next Bulls coach - Full coaching staff p43

[letsgobulls23]

I think this is a great hire and indicates that Karnisovas is going to build the same way the Nuggets were built.

It may frustrate you guys at times, I know Nuggets fans got frustrated especially about 2 years ago, but trust me when I say that right now the 5 year rebuild was worth it.

The way it works is that the entire franchise focuses on development. The Nuggets at 1 time had almost as many assistant coaches and player development guys as they did players, and if you are paying attention you can see how it has paid off.

As the young guys develop and are ready for minutes than the guys who are not developing or veterans not in the long term plans are traded off. You will see things like when Nurkic was showing he was ready and already better than Mozgov, Mozgov was traded for 2 future 1sts. When Harris was ready for minutes they traded Afflalo for Barton and a pick. Joffrey Lauvergne was traded when it became apparent that both Jokic and Nurkic were better.

Old veterans will likely be brought in, guys like Mike Miller and Richard Jefferson, who were brought in to work with the young guys and occasionally play a handful of minutes when games would spiral out of control for the young guys.

You will see experts continually say that the Bulls have no direction, and then suddenly you will be making noise in the playoffs.

You guys have a younger mix of guys than we did when Connelly and AK took over, so maybe it will take you less time, but either way if you are patient it gets fun in a few years.

nope not frustrated at all now that we have a total new regime with a top gm and players coach compared to the Nuggets when they were all inexperienced. Combine that with the fact that Chicago has much higher draft capital and assets to the Nuggets pre Jokic yrs and they are a powerhouse with top 3 market, the Bulls version will be much better esp when they dont have to sign washed up veterans like Millsap anymore. The Bulls could easily abandon the draft route and consolidate Lavine into Beal using the Donovan connection or ADs chicago connection. FA is all about dominos so if 1 star falls, the other will fall too.
AK could easily hit another MPJ, Bol every yr helps. im expecting 2nd round exit in 2 yrs considering AKs drafted players are performing starter lvl in yr 1 and they were had literally for free without any tanking. (Bol, MPJ)
The Bulls are easily the new BKN nets with better drafting abilities disgruntled stars will collude to join. AK and Donovan already are proven for yrs they dont need to prove to the superstars except making the playoffs this yr with this current core.

It's not easy to acquire stars like Beal, AD, etc. The Bulls cannot "easily" bring in those players, regardless of the connections. You keep saying that on the GB too, it just feels delusional.

I'm hoping the Bulls take an approach similar to what AK did in Denver, and build patiently. You keep bringing up stars and say it'll be easy to attract them to CHI now, and I find that VERY hard to believe.

[ArtMorte]

Glad about the hire, no more ifs, buts and maybes, if these players fail under Donovan we know they should all be traded away.

[KevinPandawong]

I think this is a great hire and indicates that Karnisovas is going to build the same way the Nuggets were built.

It may frustrate you guys at times, I know Nuggets fans got frustrated especially about 2 years ago, but trust me when I say that right now the 5 year rebuild was worth it.

The way it works is that the entire franchise focuses on development. The Nuggets at 1 time had almost as many assistant coaches and player development guys as they did players, and if you are paying attention you can see how it has paid off.

As the young guys develop and are ready for minutes than the guys who are not developing or veterans not in the long term plans are traded off. You will see things like when Nurkic was showing he was ready and already better than Mozgov, Mozgov was traded for 2 future 1sts. When Harris was ready for minutes they traded Afflalo for Barton and a pick. Joffrey Lauvergne was traded when it became apparent that both Jokic and Nurkic were better.

Old veterans will likely be brought in, guys like Mike Miller and Richard Jefferson, who were brought in to work with the young guys and occasionally play a handful of minutes when games would spiral out of control for the young guys.

You will see experts continually say that the Bulls have no direction, and then suddenly you will be making noise in the playoffs.

You guys have a younger mix of guys than we did when Connelly and AK took over, so maybe it will take you less time, but either way if you are patient it gets fun in a few years.

I appreciate the $.02 from a Denver fan's perspective. Thanks for the insight.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

I expect to be in the playoffs next year. This roster is good enough as it stands. Add another year and another top pick, id be disappointed if they don’t with Donovan as coach

[MrSparkle]

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Fantastic! I now expect us to have allstars emerge in this group.

Barkley has like the worst takes on tv concerning predictions lol

He's kind of right about us not having any good players though. Outside of Lavine. And possibly Coby.

I think Barkley's been more comfortable/shameless about being wrong recently, so his comments have been more bombastic knowing they're gonna be a laugh - i.e. Lakers sweep.

[FriedRise]

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[SfBull]

We're on the right track.
Finally.
https://theathletic.com/2086809/2020/09/23/why-the-bulls-hired-billy-donovan-and-what-it-says-about-where-theyre-going?source=user-shared-article

[FriedRise]

We're on the right track.
Finally.
https://theathletic.com/2086809/2020/09/23/why-the-bulls-hired-billy-donovan-and-what-it-says-about-where-theyre-going?source=user-shared-article

My biggest takeaway is how AKME were able to turn "initial disinterest" from their first phone call into an actual hiring. It shows that we have a plan that somebody of Billy D caliber can buy and be excited about, and that's a long time coming after years of short-term, reactionary method of operation of GarPax.

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But immediately after the Thunder announced two weeks ago that Donovan would not return to Oklahoma City after five seasons, the Bulls’ brass jumped at an unexpected opportunity. They reached out with a preliminary phone call, to which they were met with initial disinterest.

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More teams, many armed with better coaching opportunities than the Bulls on paper, called over the next week. All would express a similar interest in Donovan. In the end, the Bulls snagged the best coach on the market not because they offered the best job but because Donovan saw something promising with Chicago’s direction.

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Coaches with Donovan’s credentials don’t accept rebuilding jobs. That’s why it was such a shock that Donovan’s name emerged from nearly a dozen candidates. And it’s why most of the Bulls’ targets were assistant coaches. But strange as it may sound, the Bulls had something that gave them a leg up — a plan. More specifically, they had planners.

According to one person with knowledge of the negotiations, Donovan came away impressed as much with Karnišovas and new general manager Marc Eversley as he was with the job they were selling him. After the two sides concluded the interview process, there was a shared feeling that the marriage was a natural fit.

It’s the first real show of what kind of sway the new management’s league-wide respect carries. Donovan didn’t have a pre-existing work relationship or close personal friendship with anyone within the Bulls’ front office. He earned the call on achievement alone, and he accepted it with trust in the organization and the shared vision of its management team.

[drosereturn]

We're on the right track.
Finally.
https://theathletic.com/2086809/2020/09/23/why-the-bulls-hired-billy-donovan-and-what-it-says-about-where-theyre-going?source=user-shared-article

Back on track I mean right up there with the pre-2011 Bulls level.
A big fish like Billy choosing Bulls over Prestis OKC means a lot. He never got fired but felt Chicago had a better future than OKC who are basically the Bulls 3 yrs ago. Lets see how the fa market reacts to this because the media will be giving them some major spotlight now.

Lavine has to just maintain his 20-5-5 in a reduced role. Lets see how Lauri can become this Dirk lite player everyone was chanting a yr ago with this seasons breakout 35 pt game. If he doesnt become the best player not performing feb Lauri and those breakout performances, Bulls have no hope to make playoffs.

[JohnnyTapwater]

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So SOLD!

[kodo]

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Even with the roster being the same, and most of winning depends on your players, seems that AK & Donovan have completely re-written the optics of the Bulls.

They were talking mostly about how Chicago now has a shot in FA where before stars wouldn't even consider it.

[Southpaw]

We're on the right track.
Finally.
https://theathletic.com/2086809/2020/09/23/why-the-bulls-hired-billy-donovan-and-what-it-says-about-where-theyre-going?source=user-shared-article

My biggest takeaway is how AKME were able to turn "initial disinterest" from their first phone call into an actual hiring. It shows that we have a plan that somebody of Billy D caliber can buy and be excited about, and that's a long time coming after years of short-term, reactionary method of operation of GarPax.

...

But immediately after the Thunder announced two weeks ago that Donovan would not return to Oklahoma City after five seasons, the Bulls’ brass jumped at an unexpected opportunity. They reached out with a preliminary phone call, to which they were met with initial disinterest.

...

More teams, many armed with better coaching opportunities than the Bulls on paper, called over the next week. All would express a similar interest in Donovan. In the end, the Bulls snagged the best coach on the market not because they offered the best job but because Donovan saw something promising with Chicago’s direction.

...

Coaches with Donovan’s credentials don’t accept rebuilding jobs. That’s why it was such a shock that Donovan’s name emerged from nearly a dozen candidates. And it’s why most of the Bulls’ targets were assistant coaches. But strange as it may sound, the Bulls had something that gave them a leg up — a plan. More specifically, they had planners.

According to one person with knowledge of the negotiations, Donovan came away impressed as much with Karnišovas and new general manager Marc Eversley as he was with the job they were selling him. After the two sides concluded the interview process, there was a shared feeling that the marriage was a natural fit.

It’s the first real show of what kind of sway the new management’s league-wide respect carries. Donovan didn’t have a pre-existing work relationship or close personal friendship with anyone within the Bulls’ front office. He earned the call on achievement alone, and he accepted it with trust in the organization and the shared vision of its management team.

That was a very promising read.

[nomorezorro]

giannis is coming...it's inevitable......

[Red8911]

Color me excited. I like Donovan's offensive style with all the passing and touches. We'll see if WCJ and/or Lauri can become the high post playmaker like Adams became for OKC.

Games should be more fun to watch now since we'll actually see competent schemes and adjustments. The return of the midrange shot will likely help Lauri and Lavine quite a bit. Lauri really needed those types of shots to get going.

Forget Carter I want Adams here. OKC will apparently trade their vets so he should be available and now Donovan is here to recruit aqua man. He would be the perfect center for the bulls.

[MrSparkle]

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Someone pitched the Otto/Sato idea for CP3. It's a decent trade idea, but I'm with Jay; Coby and Zach need to play. Unlike Shai, Coby and Zach can't defend wings, so I don't think you could play Paul alongside them and make it work. And I don't think Donovan wanted to play 3 small guards; it was just a necessity since every SG/SF on OKC was essentially a no-namer.

I think Artunas is gonna make this team bigger on the wings and even at center. I don't think the #4 pick will have much to do with it; maybe Deni or Okoro come, but not to address that need. I think AK will be active in free agency and trades to reduce the 6'3 gauntlet with some 6'6+ athletes. I also continue to think it's not crazy that Wiseman ends up a Bull.

[tgmxd]

We're on the right track.
Finally.
https://theathletic.com/2086809/2020/09/23/why-the-bulls-hired-billy-donovan-and-what-it-says-about-where-theyre-going?source=user-shared-article

My biggest takeaway is how AKME were able to turn "initial disinterest" from their first phone call into an actual hiring. It shows that we have a plan that somebody of Billy D caliber can buy and be excited about, and that's a long time coming after years of short-term, reactionary method of operation of GarPax.

...

But immediately after the Thunder announced two weeks ago that Donovan would not return to Oklahoma City after five seasons, the Bulls’ brass jumped at an unexpected opportunity. They reached out with a preliminary phone call, to which they were met with initial disinterest.

...

More teams, many armed with better coaching opportunities than the Bulls on paper, called over the next week. All would express a similar interest in Donovan. In the end, the Bulls snagged the best coach on the market not because they offered the best job but because Donovan saw something promising with Chicago’s direction.

...

Coaches with Donovan’s credentials don’t accept rebuilding jobs. That’s why it was such a shock that Donovan’s name emerged from nearly a dozen candidates. And it’s why most of the Bulls’ targets were assistant coaches. But strange as it may sound, the Bulls had something that gave them a leg up — a plan. More specifically, they had planners.

According to one person with knowledge of the negotiations, Donovan came away impressed as much with Karnišovas and new general manager Marc Eversley as he was with the job they were selling him. After the two sides concluded the interview process, there was a shared feeling that the marriage was a natural fit.

It’s the first real show of what kind of sway the new management’s league-wide respect carries. Donovan didn’t have a pre-existing work relationship or close personal friendship with anyone within the Bulls’ front office. He earned the call on achievement alone, and he accepted it with trust in the organization and the shared vision of its management team.

To me, something doesn't seem to make sense about this move just because of the roster.

Could there be a big move/trade coming up for a star that we don't know about? That's the only way to me they could have sold him on this

[sco]

We're on the right track.
Finally.
https://theathletic.com/2086809/2020/09/23/why-the-bulls-hired-billy-donovan-and-what-it-says-about-where-theyre-going?source=user-shared-article

My biggest takeaway is how AKME were able to turn "initial disinterest" from their first phone call into an actual hiring. It shows that we have a plan that somebody of Billy D caliber can buy and be excited about, and that's a long time coming after years of short-term, reactionary method of operation of GarPax.

...

But immediately after the Thunder announced two weeks ago that Donovan would not return to Oklahoma City after five seasons, the Bulls’ brass jumped at an unexpected opportunity. They reached out with a preliminary phone call, to which they were met with initial disinterest.

...

More teams, many armed with better coaching opportunities than the Bulls on paper, called over the next week. All would express a similar interest in Donovan. In the end, the Bulls snagged the best coach on the market not because they offered the best job but because Donovan saw something promising with Chicago’s direction.

...

Coaches with Donovan’s credentials don’t accept rebuilding jobs. That’s why it was such a shock that Donovan’s name emerged from nearly a dozen candidates. And it’s why most of the Bulls’ targets were assistant coaches. But strange as it may sound, the Bulls had something that gave them a leg up — a plan. More specifically, they had planners.

According to one person with knowledge of the negotiations, Donovan came away impressed as much with Karnišovas and new general manager Marc Eversley as he was with the job they were selling him. After the two sides concluded the interview process, there was a shared feeling that the marriage was a natural fit.

It’s the first real show of what kind of sway the new management’s league-wide respect carries. Donovan didn’t have a pre-existing work relationship or close personal friendship with anyone within the Bulls’ front office. He earned the call on achievement alone, and he accepted it with trust in the organization and the shared vision of its management team.

To me, something doesn't seem to make sense about this move just because of the roster.

Could there be a big move/trade coming up for a star that we don't know about? That's the only way to me they could have sold him on this

Go get me Ben Simmons! Lauri/Coby for Simmons works in trade checker...just saying

Seriously though...this is good listen

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[FranchisePlayer]

Idk. Doesn't seem like a bad coach but I don't think he's very good. After missing on 2 straight 1st timers, I don't blame the organization for going with Billy.

An obvious upgrade over Boylen though so I'm still excited for next season.

At least everyone here seems to agree he is far and away a better coach than boylen.

Speaking of which, what ever happened to his defenders? Lots of Boylen apologists in here 6 months ago.

But yeah, I find it really difficult to see anyone contesting this wasn't an upgrade.

[PaKii94]

Idk. Doesn't seem like a bad coach but I don't think he's very good. After missing on 2 straight 1st timers, I don't blame the organization for going with Billy.

An obvious upgrade over Boylen though so I'm still excited for next season.

At least everyone here seems to agree he is far and away a better coach than boylen.

Speaking of which, what ever happened to his defenders? Lots of Boylen apologists in here 6 months ago.

But yeah, I find it really difficult to see anyone contesting this wasn't an upgrade.

No one was defending Boylen here

[Leslie Forman]

Coaches with Donovan’s credentials don’t accept rebuilding jobs. That’s why it was such a shock that Donovan’s name emerged from nearly a dozen candidates. And it’s why most of the Bulls’ targets were assistant coaches. But strange as it may sound, the Bulls had something that gave them a leg up — a plan. More specifically, they had planners.

Based on this, I don't think the roster here will look even remotely like it is now in a year or two.

People should definitely not get too attached to any of the young players here.