RealGM consensus mock - Sacramento

[Roddy B for 3]

Williams to San Antonio.

1. Minnesota: Anthony Edwards
2. Golden State: James Wiseman
3. Charlotte: LaMelo Ball
4. Chicago: Deni Avdija
5. Cleveland: Obi Toppin
6. Atlanta: Isaac Okoro
7. Detroit: Killian Hayes
8. New York: Tyrese Haliburton
9. Washington: Onyeka Okongwu
10. Phoenix: Devin Vassell
11. San Antonio: Patrick Williams

who does Sacramento take w/ this board?

[Roddy B for 3]

I voted Saddiq and Cole.

Cole could add big time scoring and secondary playmaking to compliment Fox and Bey can add secondary playmaking and some tertiary scoring.

Fox is really strong now and can probably guard 2's ala McCollum but I'd bring Cole off the bench at first.

Bey is a more traditional fit and he is my first option for them here. He fits better with the core than Cole.

[doordoor123]

Divac was pretty predictable, this new FO might not be. No idea how they’ll pick. My guess is they’ll take best available regardless of position.

I cannot see Poku going this early especially since it is pretty much a given he is stashed his first year.

[codydaze]

I think we'll probably be trading Buddy so with these options I think we might go with Nesmith here. Josh Green and Jahmius Ramsey are two guys I also like that aren't listed.

[City of Trees]

First I would like to share my excitement seeing Oturu's name listed for an option at #12.

I have the Kings picking Nesmith. My reasoning is GM McNair will look to bring more 3 point shooting to the roster. Also gives him options with the Buddy/Bogi decision.

Sent from my Pixel 4a using RealGM mobile app

[Catchall]

Maxey or Nesmith, imo. They'll position themselves to trade either Hield or Bogdanovic.

If I were the Kings, I'd think about trying to trade back a few spots to take Poku, RJ, Precious or Saddiq.

[doordoor123]

I think we'll probably be trading Buddy so with these options I think we might go with Nesmith here. Josh Green and Jahmius Ramsey are two guys I also like that aren't listed.

I love Jahmius Ramsey. Think he’s so underrated. He reminds me so much of Donovan Mitchell when he came out out in terms of his advanced moves. He’s getting underrated for his height, but his lack of defense is probably warranted. I think when he gets in better shape he’s going to be a guy you’re going to have to watch it for.

[MotownMadness]

Nesmith

[Stillwater]

I think tbh this is where Toppin's actual draft range starts or maybe a pick sooner to SAS.
I also think with the change in the front office SAC could move this pick instead of using it on anybody.
for the sake of bpa of those available on this mock I went with Cole & Lewis neither of which would actually get
picked by SAC if they kept it...

[SNPA]

Makes no sense to pick a backup PG in Cole at 12.

I could see going with a shooter, Nesmith.

But for a guy talking about being aggressive as his primary approach, pick the highest upside guy. Poku, and let it ride.

Also, I think Paul Reed is in this class of player, I can’t figure out why he is considered 2nd round by so many.

[Roddy B for 3]

Makes no sense to pick a backup PG in Cole at 12.

I could see going with a shooter, Nesmith.

But for a guy talking about being aggressive as his primary approach, pick the highest upside guy. Poku, and let it ride.

Also, I think Paul Reed is in this class of player, I can’t figure out why he is considered 2nd round by so many.

I could just as easily critizise Nesmith as a backup. Sacramento already has Big/Barnes/Buddy so even IF you move one he'd still be a backup. Cole would play the 2 next to Fox ala CJ/Dame.

Imo Cole is one of two bpa and the poll gives to options.

Nesmith is running in place. Add Nesmith lose Buddy. That's like the Lions letting D.Slay walk and picking a CB 2 overall. What do you gain there? What ever minimal trade value a overpaid, disgruntled Heild gets you but you lose a lotto pick replacing a guy that never got you anywhere.

Very few players in this draft can walk into Sacramento as a starter. Cole is beat qualified as a 6th man. And has big upside that can fit with Fox ala CJ/Dame

[MemphisX]

Maxey or Poku. They need another on ball creator.

[SNPA]

Makes no sense to pick a backup PG in Cole at 12.

I could see going with a shooter, Nesmith.

But for a guy talking about being aggressive as his primary approach, pick the highest upside guy. Poku, and let it ride.

Also, I think Paul Reed is in this class of player, I can’t figure out why he is considered 2nd round by so many.

I could just as easily critizise Nesmith as a backup. Sacramento already has Big/Barnes/Buddy so even IF you move one he'd still be a backup. Cole would play the 2 next to Fox ala CJ/Dame.

Imo Cole is one of two bpa and the poll gives to options.

Nesmith is running in place. Add Nesmith lose Buddy. That's like the Lions letting D.Slay walk and picking a CB 2 overall. What do you gain there? What ever minimal trade value a overpaid, disgruntled Heild gets you but you lose a lotto pick replacing a guy that never got you anywhere.

Very few players in this draft can walk into Sacramento as a starter. Cole is beat qualified as a 6th man. And has big upside that can fit with Fox ala CJ/Dame

You are right about Nesmith being a Buddy replacement. But I don’t buy the Cole hype. First off, it’s Fox that’d have to move to the SG. Cole isn’t big, and has below average length. The guy shot bad from the floor, decent from 3 and just ok from the line. His assist to turnover ratio isn’t even at 2 and he isn’t a freak athlete. Where is big this upside?

I think he is an NBA player but big upside I’m not seeing. Someone tell me what I’m missing.

[Roddy B for 3]

Makes no sense to pick a backup PG in Cole at 12.

I could see going with a shooter, Nesmith.

But for a guy talking about being aggressive as his primary approach, pick the highest upside guy. Poku, and let it ride.

Also, I think Paul Reed is in this class of player, I can’t figure out why he is considered 2nd round by so many.

I could just as easily critizise Nesmith as a backup. Sacramento already has Big/Barnes/Buddy so even IF you move one he'd still be a backup. Cole would play the 2 next to Fox ala CJ/Dame.

Imo Cole is one of two bpa and the poll gives to options.

Nesmith is running in place. Add Nesmith lose Buddy. That's like the Lions letting D.Slay walk and picking a CB 2 overall. What do you gain there? What ever minimal trade value a overpaid, disgruntled Heild gets you but you lose a lotto pick replacing a guy that never got you anywhere.

Very few players in this draft can walk into Sacramento as a starter. Cole is beat qualified as a 6th man. And has big upside that can fit with Fox ala CJ/Dame

You are right about Nesmith being a Buddy replacement. But I don’t buy the Cole hype. First off, it’s Fox that’d have to move to the SG. Cole isn’t big, and has below average length. The guy shot bad from the floor, decent from 3 and just ok from the line. His assist to turnover ratio isn’t even at 2 and he isn’t a freak athlete. Where is big this upside?

I think he is an NBA player but big upside I’m not seeing. Someone tell me what I’m missing.

In offense Fox would be PG. He's just a better facilitator. Cole is more of a scorer than a traditional PG right now. Defensively Cole would probably guard the weakest length and that wouldn't really effect Fox from my pov.

The things that are obviously impressive about Cole are his rediculous handles and his strength for the position. The things that look impressive from my pov is his shooting from deep or mid range. I know the numbers weren't great but just like Maxey I expect he'll have better percentages in a reduced role on a more wide NBA court.

Imagine a player that can get anywhere on the court with his handle, drill pull threes at around 35% and spot up threes around 40%. The guy also has one of the most effective pull-up midrange jumpers when you play him tight on the perimeter. Is very average for a volume scorer as far as finishing at the basket % (for reference FVV is terrible from here). Imagine the player is a below average defensive player but strong so he won't get bullied like other below average defensive guards (Lou Will, Year Young, etc.).
Now this players ability to "set the table", or make high level PG passes will probably never be more than average for a starter at PG (probably above average for a SG though).

That's the description of Cole Anthony if he can up his shooting splits by about 2-3% across the board.

If Cole was 6'6" he'd be seen as a obvious top 5 pick. At 6'8" he'd probably be the consensus #1 pick. But at 6'4" people don't have him in the top ten. Personally I don't understand that.

How people can have guys like Edwards and Ball with their terrible percents and think they'll fix that but anthony was a respectable .348 from three and .75 from free throw with elite handles and above average size/strength/athleticism for PG. No he's not Westbrook but he's right their as a speed/jump/strength but as J.Murray was coming out of Kentucky.

[Stillwater]

Sac isnt drafting cole anthony not just because it makes no sense but because he wont be there anyway ... This mock is way off base from where teams will have their final big boards. I think people weigh fit far too much in the lottery where it is all about acquisition of longterm potential where half the current roster wont be a factor anyway.
The most likely available and probably taken by sac is obi or Achiuwa imo.

[nolang1]

I would guess the top 2 choices are the most likely, but with all the Kentucky players who have played well during the bubble Maxey's stock has to be going up to the point that he'd be good value at #12 even if the Kings were to trade him immediately.

[MotownMadness]

Sac isnt drafting cole anthony not just because it makes no sense but because he wont be there anyway ... This mock is way off base from where teams will have their final big boards. I think people weigh fit far too much in the lottery where it is all about acquisition of longterm potential where half the current roster wont be a factor anyway.
The most likely available and probably taken by sac is obi or Achiuwa imo.

There is no way Obi Toppin last this long. I'm not the biggest fan of him but hes pretty superior to most this draft at the moment. I'm assuming hes gone in the top 5 because hes NBA ready and just flat out more dominant then the rest of the field in this area.

[Saberestar]

I could just as easily critizise Nesmith as a backup. Sacramento already has Big/Barnes/Buddy so even IF you move one he'd still be a backup. Cole would play the 2 next to Fox ala CJ/Dame.

Imo Cole is one of two bpa and the poll gives to options.

Nesmith is running in place. Add Nesmith lose Buddy. That's like the Lions letting D.Slay walk and picking a CB 2 overall. What do you gain there? What ever minimal trade value a overpaid, disgruntled Heild gets you but you lose a lotto pick replacing a guy that never got you anywhere.

Very few players in this draft can walk into Sacramento as a starter. Cole is beat qualified as a 6th man. And has big upside that can fit with Fox ala CJ/Dame

You are right about Nesmith being a Buddy replacement. But I don’t buy the Cole hype. First off, it’s Fox that’d have to move to the SG. Cole isn’t big, and has below average length. The guy shot bad from the floor, decent from 3 and just ok from the line. His assist to turnover ratio isn’t even at 2 and he isn’t a freak athlete. Where is big this upside?

I think he is an NBA player but big upside I’m not seeing. Someone tell me what I’m missing.

In offense Fox would be PG. He's just a better facilitator. Cole is more of a scorer than a traditional PG right now. Defensively Cole would probably guard the weakest length and that wouldn't really effect Fox from my pov.

The things that are obviously impressive about Cole are his rediculous handles and his strength for the position. The things that look impressive from my pov is his shooting from deep or mid range. I know the numbers weren't great but just like Maxey I expect he'll have better percentages in a reduced role on a more wide NBA court.

Imagine a player that can get anywhere on the court with his handle, drill pull threes at around 35% and spot up threes around 40%. The guy also has one of the most effective pull-up midrange jumpers when you play him tight on the perimeter. Is very average for a volume scorer as far as finishing at the basket % (for reference FVV is terrible from here). Imagine the player is a below average defensive player but strong so he won't get bullied like other below average defensive guards (Lou Will, Year Young, etc.).
Now this players ability to "set the table", or make high level PG passes will probably never be more than average for a starter at PG (probably above average for a SG though).

That's the description of Cole Anthony if he can up his shooting splits by about 2-3% across the board.

If Cole was 6'6" he'd be seen as a obvious top 5 pick. At 6'8" he'd probably be the consensus #1 pick. But at 6'4" people don't have him in the top ten. Personally I don't understand that.

How people can have guys like Edwards and Ball with their terrible percents and think they'll fix that but anthony was a respectable .348 from three and .75 from free throw with elite handles and above average size/strength/athleticism for PG. No he's not Westbrook but he's right their as a speed/jump/strength but as J.Murray was coming out of Kentucky.

He is actually 6'2.

It really doesn't matter to succeed in the NBA, he is as tall as Lillard or Irving, but I wanted to correct you because he definitely is not 6'4...just that.

[kobyz]

Nesmith, they need as much shooting they can get around Fox

[Roddy B for 3]

You are right about Nesmith being a Buddy replacement. But I don’t buy the Cole hype. First off, it’s Fox that’d have to move to the SG. Cole isn’t big, and has below average length. The guy shot bad from the floor, decent from 3 and just ok from the line. His assist to turnover ratio isn’t even at 2 and he isn’t a freak athlete. Where is big this upside?

I think he is an NBA player but big upside I’m not seeing. Someone tell me what I’m missing.

In offense Fox would be PG. He's just a better facilitator. Cole is more of a scorer than a traditional PG right now. Defensively Cole would probably guard the weakest length and that wouldn't really effect Fox from my pov.

The things that are obviously impressive about Cole are his rediculous handles and his strength for the position. The things that look impressive from my pov is his shooting from deep or mid range. I know the numbers weren't great but just like Maxey I expect he'll have better percentages in a reduced role on a more wide NBA court.

Imagine a player that can get anywhere on the court with his handle, drill pull threes at around 35% and spot up threes around 40%. The guy also has one of the most effective pull-up midrange jumpers when you play him tight on the perimeter. Is very average for a volume scorer as far as finishing at the basket % (for reference FVV is terrible from here). Imagine the player is a below average defensive player but strong so he won't get bullied like other below average defensive guards (Lou Will, Year Young, etc.).
Now this players ability to "set the table", or make high level PG passes will probably never be more than average for a starter at PG (probably above average for a SG though).

That's the description of Cole Anthony if he can up his shooting splits by about 2-3% across the board.

If Cole was 6'6" he'd be seen as a obvious top 5 pick. At 6'8" he'd probably be the consensus #1 pick. But at 6'4" people don't have him in the top ten. Personally I don't understand that.

How people can have guys like Edwards and Ball with their terrible percents and think they'll fix that but anthony was a respectable .348 from three and .75 from free throw with elite handles and above average size/strength/athleticism for PG. No he's not Westbrook but he's right their as a speed/jump/strength but as J.Murray was coming out of Kentucky.

He is actually 6'2.

It really doesn't matter to succeed in the NBA, he is as tall as Lillard or Irving, but I wanted to correct you because he definitely is not 6'4...just that.

Espn and tankathon have him at 6'3"