Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[Stanford]

It sounds like Embiid is being consulted on all decisions rather than ushered out.

link?

[Negrodamus]

It sounds like Embiid is being consulted on all decisions rather than ushered out.

link?

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/23/report-joel-embiid-has-given-blessing-for-sixers-to-hire-mike-dantoni/

[phillynative]

Has D'Antoni ever had success with a post big like Embiid?

[Monix]

Has D'Antoni ever had success with a post big like Embiid?

He has had success with different schemes, so the narrative that he only coaches one strict system is questionable

Also, Embiid as only a post-up option is what really trips them up at the end of tight games - he has not developed his passing and vision to the point where he isn't turning the ball over way too much in those situations

Using Embiid differently and more creatively is probably the team's best path forward, regardless if who the next coach is

[davesilver]

Has D'Antoni ever had success with a post big like Embiid?

He has had success with different schemes, so the narrative that he only coaches one strict system is questionable

Also, Embiid as only a post-up option is what really trips them up at the end of tight games - he has not developed his passing and vision to the point where he isn't turning the ball over way too much in those situations

Using Embiid differently and more creatively is probably the team's best path forward, regardless if who the next coach is

I think this nuanced view is the way. We would never win a championship with the way BB used Ben and Embiid, both separately and in lineups together. The hope is a mind like D'Antoni can figure it out.

My biggest question is whether we should make big roster changes in the offseason, or wait and feel it out during the season. I think it will be another season of mid-season trades and adjustments, but I do have more faith in D'Antoni putting it together than Brett.

[Mik317]

again as I have said. All 5 dudes don't need to run to push the pace. Embiid as a trailer works just fine and if there is nothing off the push and the trailer is covered, you can easily go into a pnr to post chance via simply kicking it back out.

This idea that Embiid can ONLY work off post ups and slow movement is false. He obviously at his best then but even that comes into question imo. Half-court offense doesn't have to have a **** ton of moving parts as Brett's system did. You give Ben and Jo actual willing shooters and the gravity of said shooters opens the lanes and allows for easier entry passes and more space for different approaches. This either or idea is false. I mean again Jokic is a fat boi too and isn't exactly first man down the floor guy, he either brings it up (No Joel...you can't do that) or trails the push for easy threes or to get the team into the offense if the push is stopped.

Its not rocket science.

Both Ben and Jo have to become better shooters and more willing to step outside of their comfort zones but I don't get why there is this idea that we have to do things one way or no way at all lol. You can have two very different styles to go to...most great teams do.

[Bum Adebayo]

Embiid is planning to leave to a better franchise anyway, of course he is ok with M_A signing.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Embiid is planning to leave to a better franchise anyway, of course he is ok with M_A signing.

Link?

[the_process]

It sounds like Embiid is being consulted on all decisions rather than ushered out.

link?

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/23/report-joel-embiid-has-given-blessing-for-sixers-to-hire-mike-dantoni/

That link is using Pompey as its source. Which means it came from Sixer ownership. Which means it's not reliable.

[the_process]

If Pringles gets this job, I will be pleasantly surprised if Embiid is still on the roster next year.

[Negrodamus]

link?

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/23/report-joel-embiid-has-given-blessing-for-sixers-to-hire-mike-dantoni/

That link is using Pompey as its source. Which means it came from Sixer ownership. Which means it's not reliable.

In lieu of being in the actual FO, I'm afraid that Pompey might be the only source to pay attention to. Additionally, it would be pretty insane for the FO to leak false information about Joel Embiid before a coach. That would just piss him off.

[51X3RF4N]

I think the FO will take the layups, such as
Buddy Hield. Its so obvious and makes so much sense. Just call it in already.

I look at his highlights from the game against the Celtics in November 2019 when he had 35 pts. Not the one a few weeks later where he torched them for 41 pts.

But the 35pt game and then the Jan 2020 game against Minnesota where he dropped 42 points.

Both those games are great examples of what I see him doing in Philly.

He made 14 shots not including free throws in each game. And when people compare him to JJ, I look at those 14 shots and see 8 shots that JJ simply cannot make.

Over half of the shots he took in those games are shots JJ simply can't make and wouldn't take because they involve playmaking or dribbling or being athletic.

That is where I see the biggest difference with JJ and Buddy.

Buddy could be incredibly special with Joel and the right coach.

[the_process]

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2020/09/23/report-joel-embiid-has-given-blessing-for-sixers-to-hire-mike-dantoni/

That link is using Pompey as its source. Which means it came from Sixer ownership. Which means it's not reliable.

In lieu of being in the actual FO, I'm afraid that Pompey might be the only source to pay attention to. Additionally, it would be pretty insane for the FO to leak false information about Joel Embiid before a coach. That would just piss him off.

If you have a FO getting ready to deal Embiid... they might not care about that.

Hopefully I'm wrong. They should be building the team around Jo. It's just up to this point, they have done the exact opposite of that.

[the_process]

I think the FO will take the layups, such as
Buddy Hield. Its so obvious and makes so much sense. Just call it in already.

I look at his highlights from the game against the Celtics in November 2019 when he had 35 pts. Not the one a few weeks later where he torched them for 41 pts.

But the 35pt game and then the Jan 2020 game against Minnesota where he dropped 42 points.

Both those games are great examples of what I see him doing in Philly.

He made 14 shots not including free throws in each game. And when people compare him to JJ, I look at those 14 shots and see 8 shots that JJ simply cannot make.

Over half of the shots he took in those games are shots JJ simply can't make and wouldn't take because they involve playmaking or dribbling or being athletic.

That is where I see the biggest difference with JJ and Buddy.

Buddy could be incredibly special with Joel and the right coach.

If they can do a Harris and Richardson for Barnes and Hield deal, there is a undeniable logic to it.

[Bum Adebayo]

Embiid is planning to leave to a better franchise anyway, of course he is ok with M_A signing.

Link?

Most info out there consists of baseless rumors leaked by either FO or other teams, so there isn't much difference between such "info" and a fan speculating.
My take is based on applying logic considering how Embiid feels and all the decisions this org has made. If he now is happy with M_A signing, this means either he is clueless about how he will be rendered useless (in which case his IQ is low and it is probably the best idea to trade him anyway) or he knows about it and will use M_A to force issues between him and the coach, to make an excuse to be traded more easily.
I think Embiid has been unhappy for quite some time now, especially after not resigning Butler and Redick, and that 0-4 sweep was the last straw. What message do you think this org is sending Embiid by trying to sign M_A? "we don't want you", or at least "you are not the priority".

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Embiid is planning to leave to a better franchise anyway, of course he is ok with M_A signing.

Link?

Most info out there consists of baseless rumors leaked by either FO or other teams, so there isn't much difference between such "info" and a fan speculating.
My take is based on applying logic considering how Embiid feels and all the decisions this org has made. If he now is happy with M_A signing, this means either he is clueless about how he will be rendered useless (in which case his IQ is low and it is probably the best idea to trade him anyway) or he knows about it and will use M_A to force issues between him and the coach, to make an excuse to be traded more easily.
I think Embiid has been unhappy for quite some time now, especially after not resigning Butler and Redick, and that 0-4 sweep was the last straw. What message do you think this org is sending Embiid by trying to sign M_A? "we don't want you", or at least "you are not the priority".

So you admit that it's just speculation that favors your agenda? Got it, that's what I figured, yet you posted that statement as fact. I just wanted to be completely sure that you didn't really know what you were saying, so I asked for the link just in case. Ya know...some of us have inside sources. You clearly do not.

[ProcessDoctor]

NOP out: Holiday
NOP in: Richardson, Bjelica, Smith, #21, #36

PHI out: Harris, Richardson, Smith, Korkmaz, #21, #36, 2022 1st (lotto protected)
PHI in: Holiday, Hield

SAC out: Hield, Bjelica
SAC in: Harris, Korkmaz, 2022 PHI 1st (lotto protected)


Holiday(32)/Milton(16)
Hield(32)/Burks(16)
Thybulle(28)/MLE(20)
Simmons(34)/Horford(10)/MLE(4)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)


Holiday/Milton/Micic
Hield/Burks/#49
Thybulle/MLE/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/Horford/Pelle


Edit: Added Korkmaz

[ankle420breaker]

NOP out: Holiday
NOP in: Richardson, Bjelica, Smith, #21, #36

PHI out: Harris, Richardson, Smith, #21, #36, 2022 1st (lotto protected)
PHI in: Holiday, Hield

SAC out: Hield, Bjelica
SAC in: Harris, 2022 PHI 1st (lotto protected)


Holiday(32)/Milton(16)
Hield(32)/Korkmaz(16)
Thybulle(28)/MLE(20)
Simmons(34)/Horford(10)/MLE(4)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)


Holiday/Milton/Micic
Hield/Korkmaz/#49
Thybulle/MLE/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/Horford/Pelle

I like it (seems fair for the Pels and more than fair for us), but I feel like Sac would need more to accept.



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[davesilver]

NOP out: Holiday
NOP in: Richardson, Bjelica, Smith, #21, #36

PHI out: Harris, Richardson, Smith, #21, #36, 2022 1st (lotto protected)
PHI in: Holiday, Hield

SAC out: Hield, Bjelica
SAC in: Harris, 2022 PHI 1st (lotto protected)


Holiday(32)/Milton(16)
Hield(32)/Korkmaz(16)
Thybulle(28)/MLE(20)
Simmons(34)/Horford(10)/MLE(4)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)


Holiday/Milton/Micic
Hield/Korkmaz/#49
Thybulle/MLE/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/Horford/Pelle

I like it (seems fair for the Pels and more than fair for us), but I feel like Sac would need more to accept.



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This is like... my perfect roster for next season.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

NOP out: Holiday
NOP in: Richardson, Bjelica, Smith, #21, #36

PHI out: Harris, Richardson, Smith, Korkmaz #21, #36, 2022 1st (lotto protected)
PHI in: Holiday, Hield

SAC out: Hield, Bjelica
SAC in: Harris, Korkmaz, 2022 PHI 1st (lotto protected)


Holiday(32)/Milton(16)
Hield(32)/Burks(16)
Thybulle(28)/MLE(20)
Simmons(34)/Horford(10)/MLE(4)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)


Holiday/Milton/Micic
Hield/Burks/#49
Thybulle/MLE/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/Horford/Pelle


Edit: Added Korkmaz

Nice!