2020 NBA Draft Thread

Post #1701 » by **snowman** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:34 am

If we could get S. Bey with the 14th, Kira Lewis Jr with the 26th, then Daniel Oturu is the big I would get with the 30th. 6'10, 240 shooting 36 % from 3, plus avg. 12 reb, and 2.5 blocks. Those 3 would be an A+++ draft for me. Checks all the boxes.

playa-hater · Post #1702 » by **playa-hater** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:04 am

snowman wrote:If we could get S. Bey with the 14th, Kira Lewis Jr with the 26th, then Daniel Oturu is the big I would get with the 30th. 6'10, 240 shooting 36 % from 3, plus avg. 12 reb, and 2.5 blocks. Those 3 would be an A+++ draft for me. Checks all the boxes.

14 and 30 is quite possible, but Kira to 26 would shock me.. but stranger things happen.

31to6 · Post #1703 » by **31to6** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:30 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
snowman wrote:Guys, this league is a wing league. The top 24 scorers in the regular season are all wings except Giannis and Davis. We have 2 good ones Hayward and Smart and 2 REALLY good ones in Tatum and Brown. Unless there is a Davis or Giannis in this draft we had best go for the best wings we can get. I also don't see the need to trade up in a draft that # 14 could be just as good or better than #4. How many times did you say to yourself this season "Why can't we have a knocked down shooter off the bench?" Now is the time. Hell, I'd take both of them if they are available.

S. Bey or A. Nesmith is the way to go. Both shot over 45 % from 3 last season in college. Prefer Bey first though. Go get 'em Danny.

Don’t disagree but a point guard with high potential isn’t bad either. Kemba is small and older. Need to start the grooming of the next point guard soon. Also a quality point guard is so much help for the 2nd unit. I like Kira Lewis Jr.

Would not be disappointed if Ainge selected another quality wing though

I agree it’s a wing league right now but don’t see why individual PPG should be the driver of how to build a winning team? For us, defense from the 1 spot has been a bugaboo for years, and continues to be. And our 5 spot is the definition of a hodgepodge right now, while we have an abundance of riches at the wings. So with a range of picks it makes sense to consider a range of player types — draft all the knockdown shooters you want (very different from “knocked down” shooters btw) but you still have to build a roster that can deal with Lowry and Bam etc.

FlatearthZorro · Post #1704 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:30 pm

playa-hater wrote:
snowman wrote:If we could get S. Bey with the 14th, Kira Lewis Jr with the 26th, then Daniel Oturu is the big I would get with the 30th. 6'10, 240 shooting 36 % from 3, plus avg. 12 reb, and 2.5 blocks. Those 3 would be an A+++ draft for me. Checks all the boxes.

14 and 30 is quite possible, but Kira to 26 would shock me.. but stranger things happen.

I really don't think Danny can afford to draft another 3 rookies, which may or may not play. To me 2 is the max. I would legit trade 14 + 30 to move to like 10 if possible, especially if Danny sees a huge talent there. Last year's Edwards and Williams experiment hasn't been great so far. I still expect Edwards to get some minutes next year, but Grant is just too small for the position he plays and doesn't have that freakish 7'1-7'2 wingspan say a Draymond Green has.

I'd be looking to move up for Okongwu, Topin or Cole Anthony.

100proof · Post #1705 » by **100proof** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:35 pm

Bleacher report predicting celtics trade all picks to detroit for number 7 to get Tyrese Haliburton.

I would teade 2 picks for him but now way 3.

CelticsPride18 · Post #1706 » by **CelticsPride18** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:52 pm

Desmond Bane could be the shooter we need. 6’6, great shooter, good passing instincts, good defensive IQ and has great frame.

Squigglepuffin · Post #1707 » by **Squigglepuffin** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:12 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:I'd be looking to move up for Okongwu, Topin or Cole Anthony.

I do wonder if Okongwu would be worth it. He might. It really comes down to whether he'll be able to develop an outside shot. He would certainly fill a need. He could complete a core we would have for years to come.

Toppin and Anthony will be busts. It's worth it to move up into the top 10 to select a high impact player who could he a high level starter for the next 10 years. Toppin and Anthony won't be. They'll be career bench players and NBA journeymen.

I started paying a lot of attention to the draft at least 10 years ago, Toppin and Anthony are without question highly, HIGHLY overrated. It would be a major mistake to move up for these two.

An equivalent, and most likely better pg over Anthony would be Nico Mannion.

An unquestionably better big over Toppin would be Jalen Smith (if his legs can fill out - and even if not).

Squigglepuffin · Post #1708 » by **Squigglepuffin** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:27 pm

100proof wrote:Bleacher report predicting celtics trade all picks to detroit for number 7 to get Tyrese Haliburton.

I would teade 2 picks for him but now way 3.

Dude is overrated. He won't be as good a pro as he has been in college. He's a smart player but he has a very thin frame (that won't fill out too much) and a shot that seems more like a spot up/stand still push shot 7 year olds have, rather than a shot he'll be able to get off in the NBA mid range going left or right over NBA defenders while being guarded closely, which will definitely lessen his impact.

I think he could have a long NBA career but in no universe will be an all-star or borderline all-star. In a way he reminds me of Kyle Anderson (but with more hype) in that he had a good college career but his game won't translate to the NBA as well.

31to6 · Post #1709 » by **31to6** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:45 pm

Yeah no way I trade up for Halliburton, but Okongwu yaaasssss please!

MrGreenRunsDeep · Post #1710 » by **MrGreenRunsDeep** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:46 pm

We need a Center!! That’s all

Post #1711 » by **snowman** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:41 pm

Yes we had 5 rookies last year, 7 if you count 2 ways. I think Danny got caught flatfooted when Horford bailed. He knew Kyrie was leaving but when Horford left and he made the move for Kemba, he had to fill the roster with cheap bodies. Langford, G. Williams, Edwards, and Waters were drafted, and Poirier, Fall and Green were add ins. Of those, G. Williams and Langford were the only ones to deserve playing time and will be better next year for it. Green will be released. Poirier and Edwards are trade bait for fake 2nd round picks or waived, and probably will not be with the team next year. Waters may make the team, but if we draft a point guard, he will not be. I also don't think Waters will except another 2 way deal, so he may be gone all together. Fall is Poirier's replacement, but he isn't ready and hopefully be on another 2 way.

With the lux tax looming, and Haywards decision still unknown, Danny will SURELY want 3 more cheap players under team control for years. It is also the best way to upgrade the bench cheaply by using the 3 firsts to replace Green, Semi and Wannamaker, who will cost nothing to move on from all three with no dead money by not having to waive, stretch, or use any assists to move.

CelticsPride18 · Post #1712 » by **CelticsPride18** » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:36 pm

Read on Twitter

If the measurements are true drafting him would be very tempting. I keep going back and forth on players in this draft.

Post #1713 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:22 am

31to6 wrote:Yeah no way I trade up for Halliburton, but Okongwu yaaasssss please!

Latest mock has us trading three picks for seven and halliburton. I heard some chatter here from the knows and it seems da loves the kid. A bunch

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Celticsfromda6 · Post #1714 » by **Celticsfromda6** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:22 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:

Read on Twitter

If the measurements are true drafting him would be very tempting. I keep going back and forth on players in this draft.

I think he has the highest potential to become a star in 3 years from now, and easily be contribute now off the bench.

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flintsky21 · Post #1715 » by **flintsky21** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:02 am

Man the more I look into Patrick Williams, the more I'm intrigue by him. I feel like he's got the most untapped potential out of this class for whatever it's worth, and he's a full 2 years younger than Saddiq Bey. I think the 4 will eventually be his best position which would be perfect if the Celtics plan to play Tatum the 3 in the long run.

playa-hater · Post #1716 » by **playa-hater** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:12 am

Darth Celtic wrote:
31to6 wrote:Yeah no way I trade up for Halliburton, but Okongwu yaaasssss please!
Latest mock has us trading three picks for seven and halliburton. I heard some chatter here from the knows and it seems da loves the kid. A bunch

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then Detroit better throw in Luke Kennard.

playa-hater · Post #1717 » by **playa-hater** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:13 am

CelticsPride18 wrote:

Read on Twitter

If the measurements are true drafting him would be very tempting. I keep going back and forth on players in this draft.

at 26 perhaps, but not at 14..

playa-hater · Post #1718 » by **playa-hater** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:15 am

playa-hater wrote:
Darth Celtic wrote:
31to6 wrote:Yeah no way I trade up for Halliburton, but Okongwu yaaasssss please!
Latest mock has us trading three picks for seven and halliburton. I heard some chatter here from the knows and it seems da loves the kid. A bunch

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then Detroit better throw in Luke Kennard.

and even then. 2 really good role playing guards and NO help up front still has me saying no..

darylbe · Post #1719 » by **darylbe** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:48 am

100proof wrote:Bleacher report predicting celtics trade all picks to detroit for number 7 to get Tyrese Haliburton.

I would teade 2 picks for him but now way 3.

It's hard enough to move up 1 spot in the draft, nevermind 14 to 7. Philly gave a 3 and a 1st round pick, top 1 protected, to move from 3 to 1. 30 and 40 only excite San Antonio.

BostonCouchGM · Post #1720 » by **BostonCouchGM** » Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:57 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
snowman wrote:Guys, this league is a wing league. The top 24 scorers in the regular season are all wings except Giannis and Davis. We have 2 good ones Hayward and Smart and 2 REALLY good ones in Tatum and Brown. Unless there is a Davis or Giannis in this draft we had best go for the best wings we can get. I also don't see the need to trade up in a draft that # 14 could be just as good or better than #4. How many times did you say to yourself this season "Why can't we have a knocked down shooter off the bench?" Now is the time. Hell, I'd take both of them if they are available.

S. Bey or A. Nesmith is the way to go. Both shot over 45 % from 3 last season in college. Prefer Bey first though. Go get 'em Danny.

me and you brother..

I do also want a center who can knock down some 3s. Especially with personnel and Stevens system, But a prime wing player at 14 is a must for me.. after that though there are some decent choices..

Ainge can get some bigs with 26 and 30 that could provide help. NBA is a wings league like snowman said

wings league except Jokic, AD, and BAM are all the #1 or #2 players on the other teams that made the Conference Finals. The time to take wings was last year when Sekou, Clarke, Bazley, Little, and Roby were passed on at each pick. Then again bigs like Claxton, Bol and Reid were passed on as well. lol what an absolutely disastrous draft that was.

We may lose Hayward and a few others. We really have needs everywhere so BPA should be what happens. This is a solid draft and because of that there should be great players, capable of becoming future starters, at all of our picks, just like last year and 2016, the other horrible draft Danny had with multiple 1st rounders. He can't screw up another draft can he?