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Klomp wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:
Hmmm Maxey or Terry at 17 if available will be a slam dunk for the wolves, someone good will fall. This draft is deeper than people think.
What gives you this thinking that Maxey is a star? Please help me out with that.
Where in that post did he say he's a star?
KGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:
Hmmm Maxey or Terry at 17 if available will be a slam dunk for the wolves, someone good will fall. This draft is deeper than people think.
What gives you this thinking that Maxey is a star? Please help me out with that.
shangrila wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Neeva wrote:
Hmmm Maxey or Terry at 17 if available will be a slam dunk for the wolves, someone good will fall. This draft is deeper than people think.
What gives you this thinking that Maxey is a star? Please help me out with that.
Not OP but I'll answer.
Offensively he's only got two true issues; playmaking and shooting. The shooting is easily fixable (lifting the release point up, doesn't need a total rework) so shouldn't be an issue beyond the first year if that. The playmaking is something that he simply wasn't given an opportunity to show either way, so you're going to have to guess a little there. Personally I think he's good enough to be a secondary playmaker with maybe some PG potential (not on Rubio's or Russell's level, more like a Rose type of point). Aside from that he's got a tight handle, finishes well around the rim and has an advanced floater game for his age. He'll be fine scoring the ball the moment he takes the court.
Defensively he's committed with the physical tools to lock down PGs and some SGs. A longer wingspan would be nice (reported 6-6 for his 6-3 frame, not bad but not great either) so matchups will be important but he's someone who'll give good effort and be effective on that end. Combine it with his offence and you've got a legitimate 2-way prospect that's seemingly going to be available in the mid-first.
I find it hard to bet against guys like this, who already have a developed skill base combined with good physical tools. Maybe he doesn't develop into an All Star but at worst he should be a valuable piece on a competitive team. And the fact that I do think he has All Star potential makes taking the shot on him all the more attractive. I don't see much of a downside here; either he becomes a star or a two way role player, both of which we can use.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Slim Tubby wrote:KGdaBom wrote:urinesane wrote:
What about when they zig zag?Spoiler:
That's why I'm not an NBA coach. i don't know how to counter the Zig Zag.
Try a blunt, bong or one-hitter.
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tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
KGdaBom wrote:Nick K wrote:Klomp wrote:How about Krawczynski?
The Wolves are pretty well established that they would prefer not to play two bigs at the same time. I think they want a 4 for their frontcourt, not a 5. They see Towns as a 5 and think that's their best configuration going forward. Is it the right approach? We'll see. I'm not sure who they are going to take if they stay at 1, but I can say I think Wiseman is unlikely.
That says it so well. Whether we like it or not that is the way the Wolves front office thinks. That's why no Wiseman or even Okongwu.
It will be interesting on draft night if they draft Ball or Wiseman. That tells me they have a trade lined up.
if we want a 4 Okongwu is by FAR the best 4 in the draft. So why in hell would that mean no Okongwu.
Nick K wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Nick K wrote:
That says it so well. Whether we like it or not that is the way the Wolves front office thinks. That's why no Wiseman or even Okongwu.
It will be interesting on draft night if they draft Ball or Wiseman. That tells me they have a trade lined up.
if we want a 4 Okongwu is by FAR the best 4 in the draft. So why in hell would that mean no Okongwu.
Because Rosas wants a guy with greater perceived upside. If we trade down I would think he'd want a starting player.
SO_MONEY wrote:Nick K wrote:KGdaBom wrote:if we want a 4 Okongwu is by FAR the best 4 in the draft. So why in hell would that mean no Okongwu.
Because Rosas wants a guy with greater perceived upside. If we trade down I would think he'd want a starting player.
Huh?
Nick K wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:Nick K wrote:
Because Rosas wants a guy with greater perceived upside. If we trade down I would think he'd want a starting player.
Huh?
What do you mean huh?
SO_MONEY wrote:Nick K wrote:SO_MONEY wrote:
Huh?
What do you mean huh?
I don't get what you are saying and how it pertains to Okongwu.
Nick K wrote:KGdaBom wrote:Nick K wrote:
That says it so well. Whether we like it or not that is the way the Wolves front office thinks. That's why no Wiseman or even Okongwu.
It will be interesting on draft night if they draft Ball or Wiseman. That tells me they have a trade lined up.
if we want a 4 Okongwu is by FAR the best 4 in the draft. So why in hell would that mean no Okongwu.
Because Rosas wants a guy with greater perceived upside. If we trade down I would think he'd want a starting player.
BTW, if we drafted 4th, I'd take Okongwu in a NY minute.
Nick K wrote:
It will be interesting on draft night if they draft Ball or Wiseman. That tells me they have a trade lined up.
chaimer wrote:Nick K wrote:
It will be interesting on draft night if they draft Ball or Wiseman. That tells me they have a trade lined up.
This doesn't make sense to me. If any team wants Wiseman, talk to GSW or other teams with lower picks, that's Wiseman's range, no? If Wolves are thinking about drafting either one of them with a hope of finding a trade partner in the days after draft, go with Ball - Knicks, Pistons, Hornets definitely makes that call. If you go with Wiseman, not so much.. Wizards, maybe Celtics? Wiz not giving up Beal yet, and C's not giving a player like Brown.
If the plan is to trade down or trade a player after picking him, you go with Edwards or Ball. They will attract more calls from other GM's by far.
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Klomp wrote:If he were to fall, could easily see Rosas snap him up
minimus wrote:Klomp wrote:If he were to fall, could easily see Rosas snap him up
His shooting mechanic was already good. The question is whether he can sharpen his footwork, which looks like a total mess to me. Wider base when shooting, a little hop when receiving the ball might be beneficial for him.
P.S. I feel like predraft hype will grow every day in next two months. I remember me watching scouting reports, mock draft every freaking day
P.P.S. I also like to see how young players have been active in finding opportunities in these months to improve their game. How they looking for workouts with personal trainers, developing their bodies, addressing issues such as lacks of muscles, weight problems etc. Thats kind of part of test itself. Tyrell Terry is a great example. Putting 15-20lbs for 6'3" guard is not easy! Two things that make him my favorite player. First, he broke every IQ record in recent test. Second, as well as I understood, he is from MIN! Please Rosas, trade up #17, #33 and Spellman and draft this guy! I have started to follow him after seeing this pass at 0:30
KGdaBom wrote:If we draft him at 17 I have no problem with it. Even if Maxey is available.
minimus wrote:KGdaBom wrote:If we draft him at 17 I have no problem with it. Even if Maxey is available.
I dont see falling that low
KGdaBom wrote:minimus wrote:KGdaBom wrote:If we draft him at 17 I have no problem with it. Even if Maxey is available.
I dont see falling that low
He was expected to go about 25- 30 before this report of him gaining 20 pounds. Could he go sooner? Sure he could. Will he go sooner? Very doubtful. Teams that are always trading away their assets to move up for some player because he might go sooner are most likely making a mistake.
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