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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#301 » by Pointgod » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:36 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:35% is probably true but they're all going to vote. And when you know there will be legal challenges to any pro-Biden results and that the Rs control the senate, this needs to be super duper pronounced.

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The 35% votes but there’s no way you can legally win an election with only 35%. There were 6-9 million people that voted for Obama in 2012 then switched to Trump. There are about 4 million people who voted for Obama in 2012 that STAYED HOME. If you move 5% of a combination of these voters to Biden Trump loses. The Democratic voters continue to shoot themselves in the foot by not taking the Republican threat to the country and world seriously. Republicans win when Democrats fail to turnout. Let’s put it plainly. We know the GOP conspired with Russia in 2016. People fell for the anti Clinton propaganda pushed by Russia and Trump. A lot of that was targeted at Bernie supporters and black voters, not to vote for Trump but to sit out. And it worked.

Trump can’t contest the election if it’s a blowout election night which can happen if people vote early and in person. There’s a lot that can be done between now and election night to make that happen.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#302 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:46 pm

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Read on Twitter

What Trump might have been thinking all along is - I'm going to make a deal if/when I lose. You promise not to prosecute me and my fambly, and I won't contest the election. The Dems won't agree, because they believe in having an honest AG and FBI. Besides, not all the potential prosecutions will be from the federal government.



Depends on the context. If Biden has a huge blowout win, which seems likely, absolutely not. But yeah if Trump wants to give up dirt on other GOP congresspeople, particularly senators, timed to be released just before the 2022 elections, yeah I'd consider it.

Well what I'd do is I'd announce that Trump has given me dirt on Senators that I am holding onto for now but if any GOP senators want to come clean before then they're absolutely welcome to. Then whoever didn't publicize all their dirt I'd release in October 2022 if they're up for reelection.

Gloves are off now, my agenda is the complete annihilation of the GOP. Those fascist bastards need to go the way of the dodo.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#303 » by Wizardspride » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:48 pm

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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#304 » by Ruzious » Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:51 pm

Consider - Tump's been reporting loss after loss. 2020... he must be getting absolutely brutalized with losses from his hotels, gambling resorts, and golf courses. That combined with the report of him having zillions in loan guarantees that he might have to pay off soon - he might be in a lot worse shape than we realize. More reasons for him to want so desperately to open things back up before it was safe. Of course, this is why we normally have politicians sell off their assets or put in a blind trust when they're elected - to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest - and why we should never allow this type of problem again. And never includes now, btw.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#305 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:24 pm

One analysis I read on twitter shows he has about 1.1 billion in known loans and the associated properties generate about $100 million in income. So as far as we know he is doing fine, although it is worrisome that he isn't using the $100 million in income to actually pay down the principal - appears he is planning on just flipping the properties and pocketing the profit. Good strategy if it works.

Really I don't understand why Trump and his associates aren't doing a better job with this. Even if he does have crimes hidden in his tax returns you literally only have to hide them for a little more than a month. Where's the Fox News jibber jabber that they'd normally deploy for this? Did they really think the tax returns would never get leaked? Are they COMPLETELY unprepared?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#306 » by doclinkin » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:42 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:One analysis I read on twitter shows he has about 1.1 billion in known loans and the associated properties generate about $100 million in income. So as far as we know he is doing fine, although it is worrisome that he isn't using the $100 million in income to actually pay down the principal - appears he is planning on just flipping the properties and pocketing the profit. Good strategy if it works.

Really I don't understand why Trump and his associates aren't doing a better job with this. Even if he does have crimes hidden in his tax returns you literally only have to hide them for a little more than a month. Where's the Fox News jibber jabber that they'd normally deploy for this? Did they really think the tax returns would never get leaked? Are they COMPLETELY unprepared?


Yes because the truth is he actually is a puppet of "Russia, Russia, Russia". Not a hoax. He is a cheat, and needs Russia to cheat for him to win elections. Needs Russia to loan him money. Is wholly owned by Putin and the tax records will bear that out.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#307 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:11 pm

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Zonkerbl wrote:One analysis I read on twitter shows he has about 1.1 billion in known loans and the associated properties generate about $100 million in income. So as far as we know he is doing fine, although it is worrisome that he isn't using the $100 million in income to actually pay down the principal - appears he is planning on just flipping the properties and pocketing the profit. Good strategy if it works.

Really I don't understand why Trump and his associates aren't doing a better job with this. Even if he does have crimes hidden in his tax returns you literally only have to hide them for a little more than a month. Where's the Fox News jibber jabber that they'd normally deploy for this? Did they really think the tax returns would never get leaked? Are they COMPLETELY unprepared?


Yes because the truth is he actually is a puppet of "Russia, Russia, Russia". Not a hoax. He is a cheat, and needs Russia to cheat for him to win elections. Needs Russia to loan him money. Is wholly owned by Putin and the tax records will bear that out.


But Fox News brainwashees are pre-programmed to believe this is fake news. Deploy the tool! That's what you spent the billions of dollars over the last thirty years for! Why aren't they deploying the tool? I wonder if Fox' owner has told Trump that if the tax returns get leaked all bets are off. Or maybe we're a month out from the election and Trump is down by 8 and the rats are fleeing the sinking ship.

Maybe the GOP are going to scapegoat Trump and say they were under his wicked spell but they are all better now, it was all Trump Trump Trump. Just get us our one last SCOTUS pick and then toss him under the bus.

If I'm the Dems I say you go sit at the kids table until we can trust you with responsibility, so we're going to make DC and PR states and if you can compete in a fair environment then we'll engage with you again. Otherwise go away and we'll legislate by ourselves for awhile. Oh and we're packing the SCOTUS.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#308 » by Ruzious » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:19 pm

Getting a big bowl of popcorn ready for tonight. The star of the show will be... Chris Wallace. Maybe start out light with a question for Trump about his accusation that Biden is using performance enhancing drugs - like what drug is he talking about, and where can I get it?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#309 » by Zonkerbl » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:52 pm

If I were Biden here's what my opening argument would be.

"My fellow Americans, look at that arrogant smirk. Look at that arrogant smirk. That's the arrogant, self satisfied leer of a criminal who's gotten away with murder. That's the smug billionaire's grimace of a stupid man, a genuinely stupid man, born into privilege, surrounded by yes men, who's so dumb he thinks he's smart, who thinks you can beat COVID by injecting yourself with bleach. It's the arrogant grin of an incompetent who didn't know how to respond to COVID so he *pretended it wasn't there.* It's the condescending sneer of a stupid, incompetent man who thought closing the border to China but not to the EU was a smart thing to do. Not a racist thing! A smart thing! He's a stupid, incompetent, racist man who was so petty in his pure hatred of Obama that he dismantled the pandemic taskforce that could have helped him save hundreds of thousands of lives. Do you know someone who died of COVID? They died because of this stupid, incompetent, racist, petty man.

He's a *murderer* who *knew* how dangerous COVID was but decided to let. you. die. To let your parents die. To risk the lives of MY parents, YOUR parents. To kill MY FRIENDS. YOUR FRIENDS. BY THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (by this point I would be screaming at the top of my lungs)

LOOK AT THAT ARROGANT, MURDEROUS SMIRK!!!!

Vote for me and I won't try to murder you with incompetence, stupidity, racism, and pettiness. I yield my time."
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#310 » by pancakes3 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:29 pm

Ruzious wrote:Getting a big bowl of popcorn ready for tonight. The star of the show will be... Chris Wallace. Maybe start out light with a question for Trump about his accusation that Biden is using performance enhancing drugs - like what drug is he talking about, and where can I get it?


giuliani said on fox&friends that biden takes "adderall or some other kind of add drug" to stave off dementia, completely without irony.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#311 » by montestewart » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:59 pm

pancakes3 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Getting a big bowl of popcorn ready for tonight. The star of the show will be... Chris Wallace. Maybe start out light with a question for Trump about his accusation that Biden is using performance enhancing drugs - like what drug is he talking about, and where can I get it?


giuliani said on fox&friends that biden takes "adderall or some other kind of add drug" to stave off dementia, completely without irony.

Giuliani's popping addabunchabull all day long. Someone should put together a video of Giuliani commenting on the so-called doddering Biden. That'll be funny. Trump only keeps him around because he likes a mouthpiece that makes him look more articulate.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#312 » by montestewart » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:02 pm

Plus, they're former lovers

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#313 » by AFM » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:41 am

What a terrible moderator....this fella needs a switch to turn off Trump's mic when he's interrupting
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#314 » by G R E Y » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:44 am

What in the world was that cluster ****? Wow. WOW. Wow.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#315 » by Ruzious » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:49 am

Yeah, that was an hour and a half that we can't get back. Brutally bad debate. Still, what sticks out as remarkable as well as sickening and pathetic is that our President is already calling the election fraudulent and is already planning on taking this to the Supreme Court only because he thinks their role is to help him.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#316 » by payitforward » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:11 am

What an utterly disgusting piece of hits Donald Trump is. How great it would be if he would drop dead immediately. I hope I live long enough to psis on his grave.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#317 » by montestewart » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:17 am

payitforward wrote:What an utterly disgusting piece of hits Donald Trump is. How great it would be if he would drop dead immediately. I hope I live long enough to psis on his grave.

I thought Trump said he had defeated psis
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#318 » by montestewart » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:19 am

A crucial segment of undecided voters is white suburban women who hate when men interrupt.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#319 » by TGW » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:21 am

That was the most embarrassing debate I’ve ever seen. A buffoon vs. a geezer with dementia...awesome. Biden was so bad, I’m seeing trump winning several online polls, and trump was a complete disaster.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXIX 

Post#320 » by Pointgod » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:28 am

montestewart wrote:A crucial segment of undecided voters is white suburban women who hate when men interrupt.


Anyone who’s still an undecided voter is a **** moron. You have to have something seriously wrong with your brain to think that Trump is some kind of leader. Ask a someone question, would you trust Trump with the life of your kids?

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