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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1741 » by djFan71 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:25 am

themoneyteam2 wrote:Precious Achiuwa is the closes thing to Bam in this draft. Modern day NBA big who can switch everything, elite defender, and insane athlete.

Pretty obvious that's the biggest need for this team.

Okongwu says hi. :) Just kidding, I assume you meant guys we could conceivably get at 14.

I really like Paul Reed too - actually more than Precious.
Adding something like Bey, Reed and Bolmaro would be great to me. Two wing/swings to just play lock down D and another playmaker to groom behind Gordon. Or 2 of those and a Poku flyer.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1742 » by darrendaye » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:12 pm

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themoneyteam2 wrote:Precious Achiuwa is the closes thing to Bam in this draft. Modern day NBA big who can switch everything, elite defender, and insane athlete.

Pretty obvious that's the biggest need for this team.

Okongwu says hi. :) Just kidding, I assume you meant guys we could conceivably get at 14.

I really like Paul Reed too - actually more than Precious.
Adding something like Bey, Reed and Bolmaro would be great to me. Two wing/swings to just play lock down D and another playmaker to groom behind Gordon. Or 2 of those and a Poku flyer.


Reed is a guy on my radar too.
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Post#1743 » by captain green » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:38 pm

King Ken wrote:Boston needs another PG.
Kira
Cole
Both Tyrese
LaMelo

They need another PG badly.

Tell me why we need another pg?
Kemba, smart, wannamaker, Hayward bring the ball down also after these guys you have Edwards waters, and langford supposed to be groomed for pg.
We have 7 dudes but why not another guard lol
We didn't get beat because of a lack of pg problem ,we got beat cause of lack of real center depth or maybe he'll just get all pg make sure they are super tiny though and that way Tatum and brown can play pf and center.
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Post#1744 » by jfs1000d » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:39 pm

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Homerclease wrote:If we can’t move up for Wiseman or Vassell then I’m content with a Patrick Williams and Jalen Smith draft. I still want to give Waters a shot with the main club next year so I’m fine not taking a PG this year and punting that down the road one more season


I love Waters but his size is such an impediment that this does seem like a good draft to draft a successor to Wanamaker (if not Kemba) due to abundance of picks and prospects.

Getting more and more interested in Patrick Williams, he could be fun to add to what we’ve got.

I have. I idea who we draft. I actually would just as soon trade it .


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1745 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:04 pm

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King Ken wrote:Boston needs another PG.
Kira
Cole
Both Tyrese
LaMelo

They need another PG badly.

Tell me why we need another pg?
Kemba, smart, wannamaker, Hayward bring the ball down also after these guys you have Edwards waters, and langford supposed to be groomed for pg.
We have 7 dudes but why not another guard lol
We didn't get beat because of a lack of pg problem ,we got beat cause of lack of real center depth or maybe he'll just get all pg make sure they are super tiny though and that way Tatum and brown can play pf and center.

They have zero good defensive guards except for Smart. Wanamaker (one N, respect the name) is gone, Waters is a two-way, Langford can't stay on the court. Hayward doesn't guard point guards. You aren't fixing any supposed center depth issues with the bums in this draft unless you trade up to get Okongwu, but the guards and wings look kind of nice.
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Post#1746 » by captain green » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:18 pm

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King Ken wrote:Boston needs another PG.
Kira
Cole
Both Tyrese
LaMelo

They need another PG badly.

Tell me why we need another pg?
Kemba, smart, wannamaker, Hayward bring the ball down also after these guys you have Edwards waters, and langford supposed to be groomed for pg.
We have 7 dudes but why not another guard lol
We didn't get beat because of a lack of pg problem ,we got beat cause of lack of real center depth or maybe he'll just get all pg make sure they are super tiny though and that way Tatum and brown can play pf and center.

They have zero good defensive guards except for Smart. Wanamaker (one N, respect the name) is gone, Waters is a two-way, Langford can't stay on the court. Hayward doesn't guard point guards. You aren't fixing any supposed center depth issues with the bums in this draft unless you trade up to get Okongwu, but the guards and wings look kind of nice.

Ok sure I get that but my point is no minutes for a pg to be had. And I also disagree that there is only 1 good big in the draft, I see alot of pg's that look bad and are super hyped up and just adding another pg to the team isn't helpful as a shot or 2 with the bigs
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Post#1747 » by Bleeding Green » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:37 pm

I don't see any good bigs outside the lottery, but there is always someone that surprises. Certainly no one I want on the floor over Theis or either Williams. I think you can always find good bigs for MLE or less money. Nerlens Noel, Enes Kanter, Aron Baynes, there is always one of those guys available and they're better than a rookie big almost always. I don't think finding PGs on the FA market is as easy/cheap. Use the draft capital to acquire players that are expensive in free agency. If you nail Paul Reed and he's really good, that's cool, but you could have just signed Nerlens Noel for the vet min and gotten a different, but just as good player.

And there are plenty of minutes for a good rookie point guard next year. And the next three years on his rookie deal, more realistically. No rookie PG should be seriously getting minutes in 2020 most likely unless he's a freak, but luckily teams aren't constructed for one single season. Smart is only good for 70 a season, Kemba needs to be managed heavily for sure, and then there are no other pure point guards on the roster. Carsen Edwards is a total TBD, ditto Waters. Wanamaker is likely gone.
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Post#1748 » by JHTruth » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:51 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:I don't see any good bigs outside the lottery, but there is always someone that surprises. Certainly no one I want on the floor over Theis or either Williams. I think you can always find good bigs for MLE or less money. Nerlens Noel, Enes Kanter, Aron Baynes, there is always one of those guys available and they're better than a rookie big almost always. I don't think finding PGs on the FA market is as easy/cheap. Use the draft capital to acquire players that are expensive in free agency. If you nail Paul Reed and he's really good, that's cool, but you could have just signed Nerlens Noel for the vet min and gotten a different, but just as good player.

And there are plenty of minutes for a good rookie point guard next year. And the next three years on his rookie deal, more realistically. No rookie PG should be seriously getting minutes in 2020 most likely unless he's a freak, but luckily teams aren't constructed for one single season. Smart is only good for 70 a season, Kemba needs to be managed heavily for sure, and then there are no other pure point guards on the roster. Carsen Edwards is a total TBD, ditto Waters. Wanamaker is likely gone.


I would actually think a good playmaking lead guard is our top priority, particularly one with size like Hayes, Ball, or Haliburton for defense. This is actually a great draft for PG prospects. Kemba isn't a real playmaking 1. Wana is toast. I think Hayward is also gone. Edwards is not close to ready.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1749 » by snowman » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:55 pm

I'll say it again. This is a wing dominant league. We have Tatum and Brown as our future, pure and simple. Smart is a yearly defensive player of the year candidate, and if Hayward can stay healthy and resigns he is one of the best distributers out there. Langford, I believe has a bright future here. Reality is Hayward may not be here next season, and if he is, how long will he be healthy, and how long will he be here ? We need a Hayward replacement / back up to groom. We need to use the 14th on a wing shooter like S.Bey or A. Nesmith.
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Post#1750 » by darylbe » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:30 pm

I don't follow college ball... The nba season and mlb already take up too much of my time.... Lol!

I say draft nothing but bigs. I think it's easier to hit once when you get 4 shots as opposed to trying to hit 4 different marks.

Vernon carney question. He's a big strong dude, but he catches lobs, he shotblocks, and floats around under the rim. Occasionally hooks. Am I missing something, or is there no value in that, especially when he have rw3 that can basically do the same.
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Post#1751 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:18 am

darylbe wrote:I don't follow college ball... The nba season and mlb already take up too much of my time.... Lol!

I say draft nothing but bigs. I think it's easier to hit once when you get 4 shots as opposed to trying to hit 4 different marks.

Vernon carney question. He's a big strong dude, but he catches lobs, he shotblocks, and floats around under the rim. Occasionally hooks. Am I missing something, or is there no value in that, especially when he have rw3 that can basically do the same.


Vernon has no place in today's NBA. I wouldn't even waste a 2nd round pick on him. This is coming from someone who was very happy to see him play with a Duke uniform. Just zero about his game translates to the NBA.
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Post#1752 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:26 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
darylbe wrote:I don't follow college ball... The nba season and mlb already take up too much of my time.... Lol!

I say draft nothing but bigs. I think it's easier to hit once when you get 4 shots as opposed to trying to hit 4 different marks.

Vernon carney question. He's a big strong dude, but he catches lobs, he shotblocks, and floats around under the rim. Occasionally hooks. Am I missing something, or is there no value in that, especially when he have rw3 that can basically do the same.


Vernon has no place in today's NBA. I wouldn't even waste a 2nd round pick on him. This is coming from someone who was very happy to see him play with a Duke uniform. Just zero about his game translates to the NBA.


I’ve long wondered this, who is your least favorite Duke player ever?
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Post#1753 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:33 am

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Duke4life831 wrote:
darylbe wrote:I don't follow college ball... The nba season and mlb already take up too much of my time.... Lol!

I say draft nothing but bigs. I think it's easier to hit once when you get 4 shots as opposed to trying to hit 4 different marks.

Vernon carney question. He's a big strong dude, but he catches lobs, he shotblocks, and floats around under the rim. Occasionally hooks. Am I missing something, or is there no value in that, especially when he have rw3 that can basically do the same.


Vernon has no place in today's NBA. I wouldn't even waste a 2nd round pick on him. This is coming from someone who was very happy to see him play with a Duke uniform. Just zero about his game translates to the NBA.


I’ve long wondered this, who is your least favorite Duke player ever?


Haha to be clear, I like Vernon, just think his game doesn't translate at all for the NBA.

My least favorite Dukie is probably a 3 way tie.

Greg Paulus
Josh McRoberts
Wendell Moore

I've been called a UNC troll on a Duke board multiple times the last year because of how I view Moore. I cringe every time he is in the game. He really does nothing well on the court, but plays like he is he best player on the court.
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Post#1754 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:35 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Vernon has no place in today's NBA. I wouldn't even waste a 2nd round pick on him. This is coming from someone who was very happy to see him play with a Duke uniform. Just zero about his game translates to the NBA.


I’ve long wondered this, who is your least favorite Duke player ever?


Haha to be clear, I like Vernon, just think his game doesn't translate at all for the NBA.

My least favorite Dukie is probably a 3 way tie.

Greg Paulus
Josh McRoberts
Wendell Moore

I've been called a UNC troll on a Duke board multiple times the last year because of how I view Moore. I cringe every time he is in the game. He really does nothing well on the court, but plays like he is he best player on the court.


Greg Paulus :upset:
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Post#1755 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:54 am

The Comedian wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
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I’ve long wondered this, who is your least favorite Duke player ever?


Haha to be clear, I like Vernon, just think his game doesn't translate at all for the NBA.

My least favorite Dukie is probably a 3 way tie.

Greg Paulus
Josh McRoberts
Wendell Moore

I've been called a UNC troll on a Duke board multiple times the last year because of how I view Moore. I cringe every time he is in the game. He really does nothing well on the court, but plays like he is he best player on the court.


Greg Paulus :upset:


K wanted so badly for Paulus and McRoberts to be the next JJ/Shelden combo. The thing that made it that much worse was knowing we had Jon Scheyer just being forgotten. K choosing to favor Paulus over Scheyer up until 09 was one of the most frustrating times ever as a sports fan for me.

To make this post somewhat on topic haha. Vernon isn't a guy I would waste any time on. But if Cassius Stanley is available in the 2nd I'd take him real quick. Zero star potential, but live the kids game and attitude. I think he can become a better version of Semi. A good solid 3&D guy off the bench. Really good form on his shot, elite athleticism and plays really hard.
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Post#1756 » by reload141 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:57 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Haha to be clear, I like Vernon, just think his game doesn't translate at all for the NBA.

My least favorite Dukie is probably a 3 way tie.

Greg Paulus
Josh McRoberts
Wendell Moore

I've been called a UNC troll on a Duke board multiple times the last year because of how I view Moore. I cringe every time he is in the game. He really does nothing well on the court, but plays like he is he best player on the court.


Greg Paulus :upset:


K wanted so badly for Paulus and McRoberts to be the next JJ/Shelden combo. The thing that made it that much worse was knowing we had Jon Scheyer just being forgotten. K choosing to favor Paulus over Scheyer up until 09 was one of the most frustrating times ever as a sports fan for me.

To make this post somewhat on topic haha. Vernon isn't a guy I would waste any time on. But if Cassius Stanley is available in the 2nd I'd take him real quick. Zero star potential, but live the kids game and attitude. I think he can become a better version of Semi. A good solid 3&D guy off the bench. Really good form on his shot, elite athleticism and plays really hard.


Anything better than Semi please.
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Post#1757 » by Feed Your Head » Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:03 am

reload141 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
Greg Paulus :upset:


K wanted so badly for Paulus and McRoberts to be the next JJ/Shelden combo. The thing that made it that much worse was knowing we had Jon Scheyer just being forgotten. K choosing to favor Paulus over Scheyer up until 09 was one of the most frustrating times ever as a sports fan for me.

To make this post somewhat on topic haha. Vernon isn't a guy I would waste any time on. But if Cassius Stanley is available in the 2nd I'd take him real quick. Zero star potential, but live the kids game and attitude. I think he can become a better version of Semi. A good solid 3&D guy off the bench. Really good form on his shot, elite athleticism and plays really hard.


Anything better than Semi please.


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Post#1758 » by BostonCouchGM » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:54 am

darylbe wrote:I don't follow college ball... The nba season and mlb already take up too much of my time.... Lol!

I say draft nothing but bigs. I think it's easier to hit once when you get 4 shots as opposed to trying to hit 4 different marks.

Vernon carney question. He's a big strong dude, but he catches lobs, he shotblocks, and floats around under the rim. Occasionally hooks. Am I missing something, or is there no value in that, especially when he have rw3 that can basically do the same.


there aren't more than a handful of dudes his size with his soft touch, inside game, ability to run the floor, with high BBIQ and who can pass. It's hard judging Duke players because Coach K is a fraud, especially lately, who never seems to get the most out of his players or win as much as he should considering the elite talent he recruits year in year out. But I watched every game I could and was always impressed with how he moved on offense and even occasionally he flashed on defense despite being slower of foot. If Baynes can carve out a pretty damn good career in the NBA so can Vernon.
I think he needs to lose some fat and get leaner which should improve his defense. As is he'd struggle mightily. But that's why so many are bad at evaluating prospects, because they view what these players are at 19 y/o instead of what they could be at 24 y/o. I'd use one of our last picks on him if he shows up to workouts looking svelte. Because that would prove he's taking this seriously and wants to improve. If he shows up in the same shape or worse, I'd only take a second round flier on him.
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Post#1759 » by themoneyteam2 » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:03 am

Uhh I think it’s pretty obvious that NBA gms are increasingly viewing guys as what they will be in 5 years and not currently, hence why so many one and dones are picked highly in drafts lol.

It’s the exact opposite of what you said lmaooo. In fact, you could argue much better players are being passed on GMs because front offices are viewing 19 yrs old as what they can be at 24 yrs old and just drafting off of potential.

If you think current GMs aren’t drafting off of potential than in prior years I genuinely have no idea if you follow the draft.
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Post#1760 » by Squigglepuffin » Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:14 am

Bleeding Green wrote:I don't see any good bigs outside the lottery, but there is always someone that surprises.


I would use a late first on Reggie Perry. The only thing that concerns me with him is his lateral footspeed on defense. It's a big deal, but I wonder if that can be worked on to minimise it's negative impact on his game. Otherwise, on offense he seems like a good prospect with a really good NBA body.

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