Oladipo looking to "move on" from the Pacers

Post #41 » by **bisme37** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:36 pm

Celtics will take one Myles Turner please. I actually think he's disappointed compared to how good he ought to be by now, but on the C's he'd be a perfect high-end role player and a great fit.

AbeVigodaLive · Post #42 » by **AbeVigodaLive** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:38 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Prime example of why there is absolutely no reason to follow the NBA if you like a small market team.

Is Indianapolis the 11th most populous city in the country?

https://www.nlc.org/the-30-most-populous-cities

Might be more that goes into it than just that.

What about the size of the surrounding metro area (television market).
Climate.
Culture.
Reputation from people from others parts of the country.

None of those favor a place like Indiana... especially for young 20-something-year old millionaires looking to expand their brands.

iamworthy · Post #43 » by **iamworthy** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:38 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
iamworthy wrote:Outside of the Knicks, what franchise is crazy enough to give up anything of value for Oladipo?

This isn’t Knicks level of crazy. I could see at least 10 teams putting in offers. A buy low guy with possible big returns. Why not?

I agree with you, but somehow I think the Pacers will act like they are trading a perfectly healthy 27 year old all-star and want a ton.

NoZoLakers · Post #44 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:38 pm

gipper08 wrote:Embiid, Thybuille for Dipo,Turner

only if Indy GM had some incriminating pics of Brand

Tor_Raps · Post #45 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:39 pm

mademan wrote:
halifax wrote:raptors really want Oladipo. whether they admit it or not.

Raps dont really have the trade assets while remaining competitive. Remove OG/Siakam and how are they gonna get him? Powell and 2 1st rounders doesnt sound that enticing.

Only way would be if there was a sign and trade with Fred Van Vleet for Dipo. I'd be down for that trade even with the health concerns for Dipo lol.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #46 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:39 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Prime example of why there is absolutely no reason to follow the NBA if you like a small market team.

Is Indianapolis the 11th most populous city in the country?

https://www.nlc.org/the-30-most-populous-cities

https://www.moving.com/tips/the-top-10-largest-us-cities-by-population/ This one says 17 so who knows.

But as far as NBA markets go, Indiana is not desirable. There is no chance for a team like them, they can do just about everything right and their stars will always want to leave for a bigger market/better destination.

gipper08 · Post #47 » by **gipper08** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:40 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
gipper08 wrote:Embiid, Thybuille for Dipo,Turner

Unpopular opinion but I’d be more excited for that team than the one PHI has at full strength currently.

Oladipo
Richardson
Harris
Simmons
Turner

I can’t see why IND would think Embiid and Sabonis would work, though.

yes. very unpopular opinion.

MoMan24 · Post #48 » by **MoMan24** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:40 pm

mademan wrote:
halifax wrote:raptors really want Oladipo. whether they admit it or not.

Raps dont really have the trade assets while remaining competitive. Remove OG/Siakam and how are they gonna get him? Powell and 2 1st rounders doesnt sound that enticing.

They can sign and trade FVV for a disgruntled player with one year left on his contract who wants out and is injury prone. Dipo's value has taken a hit recently and him being a rental does not help. You don't know what your getting with him so giving up a Middleton type player for him to me seems like a lateral move at best.

Post #49 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:42 pm

Vic is a nice player but he's only had one really great year. I would be very concerned about extending him if I were the team trading for him. If Pacers get a good deal, I think it would be smart to move him.

Jazz9 · Post #50 » by **Jazz9** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:42 pm

Meh
Hasn't shown yet that he can return to his 2017-2018 level

Post #51 » by **bisme37** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:43 pm

MoMan24 wrote:
mademan wrote:
halifax wrote:raptors really want Oladipo. whether they admit it or not.

Raps dont really have the trade assets while remaining competitive. Remove OG/Siakam and how are they gonna get him? Powell and 2 1st rounders doesnt sound that enticing.

They can sign and trade FVV for a disgruntled player with one year left on his contract who wants out and is injury prone. Dipo's value has taken a hit recently and him being a rental does not help. You don't know what your getting with him so giving up a Middleton type player for him to me seems like a lateral move at best.

Players have to agree to sign and trades. Do we think FVV wants to go to Indy?

gipper08 · Post #52 » by **gipper08** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:44 pm

NoZoLakers wrote:
gipper08 wrote:Embiid, Thybuille for Dipo,Turner

only if Indy GM had some incriminating pics of Brand

You mean the Brand that traded for, then maxed Harris? Signed Horford 25 m per to play alongside Embiid? MAde Butler feel unwelcome. Traded JIMMY BUTLER for Richardson? Trying to hire D'Antoni so Embiid can play 25 feet from the paint?

Post #53 » by **bisme37** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:45 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Vic is a nice player but he's only had one really great year. I would be very concerned about extending him if I were the team trading for him.

Yeah agreed. People still think of Dipo at his best but his best came and went and it's been a minute now. Hard to say how good he'll be going forward.

sule · Post #54 » by **sule** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:45 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Prime example of why there is absolutely no reason to follow the NBA if you like a small market team.

Is Indianapolis the 11th most populous city in the country?

https://www.nlc.org/the-30-most-populous-cities

ehhh....you gotta look at metropolitan population to get a real idea of market size. When you factor in metropolitan population, Indianapolis drops to 33rd in the U.S. and 47th in North America.

NoZoLakers · Post #55 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:45 pm

MoMan24 wrote:
mademan wrote:
halifax wrote:raptors really want Oladipo. whether they admit it or not.

Raps dont really have the trade assets while remaining competitive. Remove OG/Siakam and how are they gonna get him? Powell and 2 1st rounders doesnt sound that enticing.

They can sign and trade FVV for a disgruntled player with one year left on his contract who wants out and is injury prone. Dipo's value has taken a hit recently and him being a rental does not help. You don't know what your getting with him so giving up a Middleton type player for him to me seems like a lateral move at best.

Fvv is Middleton lvl player now? :lol:

NoZoLakers · Post #56 » by **NoZoLakers** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:47 pm

gipper08 wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:
gipper08 wrote:Embiid, Thybuille for Dipo,Turner

only if Indy GM had some incriminating pics of Brand

You mean the Brand that traded for, then maxed Harris? Signed Horford 25 m per to play alongside Embiid? MAde Butler feel unwelcome. Traded JIMMY BUTLER for Richardson? Trying to hire D'Antoni so Embiid can play 25 feet from the paint?

sure he did all that, so now hed basically put the nail in his GM coffin doing a trade like that

Tor_Raps · Post #57 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:48 pm

bisme37 wrote:
MoMan24 wrote:
mademan wrote:
Raps dont really have the trade assets while remaining competitive. Remove OG/Siakam and how are they gonna get him? Powell and 2 1st rounders doesnt sound that enticing.

They can sign and trade FVV for a disgruntled player with one year left on his contract who wants out and is injury prone. Dipo's value has taken a hit recently and him being a rental does not help. You don't know what your getting with him so giving up a Middleton type player for him to me seems like a lateral move at best.

Players have to agree to sign and trades. Do we think FVV wants to go to Indy?

If Indy is willing to pay him enough, I'm sure it will be a possibility. But ya, that requires more of Fred wanting to go there than the Raptors being able to do it.

MoMan24 · Post #58 » by **MoMan24** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:48 pm

bisme37 wrote:
MoMan24 wrote:
mademan wrote:
Raps dont really have the trade assets while remaining competitive. Remove OG/Siakam and how are they gonna get him? Powell and 2 1st rounders doesnt sound that enticing.

They can sign and trade FVV for a disgruntled player with one year left on his contract who wants out and is injury prone. Dipo's value has taken a hit recently and him being a rental does not help. You don't know what your getting with him so giving up a Middleton type player for him to me seems like a lateral move at best.

Players have to agree to sign and trades. Do we think FVV wants to go to Indy?

I think if the money is right and Fred is promised a featured role in Indy he would be game. He owes so much to the Raptors franchise for believing in him when no one else did so if everyone wins I'm sure he would. Unless he is a big city guy but he is from Rockford Illinois.

gipper08 · Post #59 » by **gipper08** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:48 pm

NoZoLakers wrote:
gipper08 wrote:
NoZoLakers wrote:only if Indy GM had some incriminating pics of Brand

You mean the Brand that traded for, then maxed Harris? Signed Horford 25 m per to play alongside Embiid? MAde Butler feel unwelcome. Traded JIMMY BUTLER for Richardson? Trying to hire D'Antoni so Embiid can play 25 feet from the paint?

sure he did all that, so now hed basically put the nail in his GM coffin doing a trade like that

yep.Whatever his next series of moves,I expect them to be stupid.

MoMan24 · Post #60 » by **MoMan24** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 7:52 pm

NoZoLakers wrote:
MoMan24 wrote:
mademan wrote:
Raps dont really have the trade assets while remaining competitive. Remove OG/Siakam and how are they gonna get him? Powell and 2 1st rounders doesnt sound that enticing.

They can sign and trade FVV for a disgruntled player with one year left on his contract who wants out and is injury prone. Dipo's value has taken a hit recently and him being a rental does not help. You don't know what your getting with him so giving up a Middleton type player for him to me seems like a lateral move at best.

Fvv is Middleton lvl player now?

I never said that. Great reading comprehension. I suggested FVV because he is not on that level. So if you get Dipo of the last 2 season and he walks your franchise is not set back years. Why would I say don't give up an All-Star for Dipo then propose trading a All-Star for Dipo?