Hayward Likely to OPT-IN to final year of contract!

[keevsnick1]

Yeah Turner could be a good fit. Oladipo isn’t an option though there is no way we can have 4 max contracts on the payroll.

There actually is.

What people dont realize though is this team is in the repeater tax issue. We are royally screwed in regards to the cap due to the mishandling of Horford and Irving cap holds. I keep saying it because its been straight up ignored by a good portion.

I think this is more a thing where Dipo could be moved in a separate trade and IND does a Hayward trade to make up for that loss, rather than a direct swap. I don't really see the Celtics wanting to take on Dipo then having to make a tough decision on his next contract with all his injury concerns.

[nic4747]

Also, Boston shouldn't be building to beat Miami. Boston should be building to be the LA teams. The Lakers are about to **** pump the Heat. Book it. 4-1

Agree. If we were just a little more clutch in this series we would have won. That comes with experience and isn't really something we need to worry about going forward.

[FlatearthZorro]

Turner likely on the move and wants out of Indiana along with Oladipo. I would legit consider that. Turner actually went toe to toe with Adebayo and did well and it'd be nice to have a young athletic big with size(who can block hella shots).

[Red2]

Gordon back to Indiana makes sense

[JHTruth]

Bam also shot 48% with 4.3 FTA per game against MIA vs 60% with 7.5 FTA against the C's. Having Turner undoubtedly seemed to slow him down more than the C's big could.

It may also be a sign that Turner could show something without Sabonis next to him. 16/11 4 blocks on 60% shooting against a good team/big in MIA/Adebayo? Not bad.

I don't know, I get that Turners isn't a perfect player I just think put that guy on this team with optimum spacing, great perimeter D you could really maximize his skill set. I'd be willing to deal Hayward for him, he has 3 years left at reasonable money (18 million).

I've always liked Turner since the Rozier draft. But frankly just letting Rob develop would probably net for more value for longer...

I mean it might. I sure hope it does. Or Rob may get injured again 10 games in. Or Rob may never solve his defensive position problems. Or a million other things. I think Turner is young enough, cheap enough, with a valued enough skill set that if you bring him in and Rob does explode you can always just pick one of the two too trade and get value back.

"Defensive position problems." This stuff is just hilarious. It's like some meme gets out there enough and repeated enough everyone believes it. Rob and Theis had the same Defensive RAPTOR and DBPM in the playoffs. Identical. You lost nothing with Rob over Theis defensively and made major gains offensively. Rob's defensive rating was better in September than Theis. Rob is the much better player TODAY. RIGHT NOW.

[SichtingLives]

Sunday - "THIS TEAM IS WAY BETTER WITH HAYWARD AND I'LL FIGHT YOU ABOUT IT"

Monday - "WE'VE GOT TO TRADE HAYWARD"

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[ddb]

Whether you think Turner is worth the package is one thing, but as far as whether he does anything for us

Well...

Turner averaged 16 pts, 11 reb & 4 blk against Miami to Bam's 15 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast.

Theis, Kanter & Time Lord combined averaged 15 pts, 15 reb & 1 blk to Bam's 22 pts, 11 reb & 5 ast

Bam is a Top 5 NBA big. Relax. Turner did fine against him and in Boston he'd be playing with a much better squad then he had in Indy.

I think you misinterpreted, I’m arguing in favor of Turner

Sorry was referring to the OP

[ddb]

Sunday - "THIS TEAM IS WAY BETTER WITH HAYWARD AND I'LL FIGHT YOU ABOUT IT"

Monday - "WE'VE GOT TO TRADE HAYWARD"

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the Hayward experiment is over. For multiple reasons it just hasn't worked out. has anyone ever considered that maybe it's Hayward that would like to move on? It isn't a knock on Boston. It just hasn't worked out. Not to mention the 2 main foundation pieces in Boston play the same position as him. Hayward respects Boston and obviously loves Brad Stevens....And he would be an idiot to opt out because he isn't even sniffing 34 million next season elsewhere as a FA. So his best bet is to help the Celtics by opting in and then getting traded. Respectfully move on. Peaceful break-up

[Parliament10]

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Monday - "WE'VE GOT TO TRADE HAYWARD"

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Yeah. This team is way better with All-NBA players as Starters, and Superman & Batman as Backups.
We can't afford that roster, though.

[FlatearthZorro]

Sunday - "THIS TEAM IS WAY BETTER WITH HAYWARD AND I'LL FIGHT YOU ABOUT IT"

Monday - "WE'VE GOT TO TRADE HAYWARD"

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I kinda wanna see Gordon back and healthy for a full season, but I also expect Danny's patience is probably running thin and Turner would make sense.

[AKFO]

I didn’t realize this board was so anti Hayward now. It’s one thing if we need to save money, but I don’t think Ainge is gonna be rushing to sell low on Hayward after he was clearly injured and affected by his injury against Miami. A trade at the deadline would be more understandable. We are a distinctly better team when Hayward is healthy and swapping him for some ok scorer or big is not gonna make us better.

[JHTruth]

Sunday - "THIS TEAM IS WAY BETTER WITH HAYWARD AND I'LL FIGHT YOU ABOUT IT"

Monday - "WE'VE GOT TO TRADE HAYWARD"

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the Hayward experiment is over. For multiple reasons it just hasn't worked out. has anyone ever considered that maybe it's Hayward that would like to move on? It isn't a knock on Boston. It just hasn't worked out. Not to mention the 2 main foundation pieces in Boston play the same position as him. Hayward respects Boston and obviously loves Brad Stevens....And he would be an idiot to opt out because he isn't even sniffing 34 million next season elsewhere as a FA. So his best bet is to help the Celtics by opting in and then getting traded. Respectfully move on. Peaceful break-up

I think this too. I think both sides need a fresh start. You think Gordon likes to constantly hear how horrible his contract is, how he's a shell, how he's let the Celtics down? I'm sure Hayward would LOVE to get moved. Plus he needs to go somewhere where he can actually get some shots to earn his next deal. Numbers need move a little bit. Hard to get another big deal as the 4th option...

[JHTruth]

I didn’t realize this board was so anti Hayward now. It’s one thing if we need to save money, but I don’t think Ainge is gonna be rushing to sell low on Hayward after he was clearly injured and affected by his injury against Miami. A trade at the deadline would be more understandable. We are a distinctly better team when Hayward is healthy and swapping him for some ok scorer or big is not gonna make us better.

I'm not "anti-Hayward". I'm just realistic about the situation. Why is the point of resigning him when we have Tatum max coming, and a Smart and maybe RWill re-ups coming?

[AKFO]

I didn’t realize this board was so anti Hayward now. It’s one thing if we need to save money, but I don’t think Ainge is gonna be rushing to sell low on Hayward after he was clearly injured and affected by his injury against Miami. A trade at the deadline would be more understandable. We are a distinctly better team when Hayward is healthy and swapping him for some ok scorer or big is not gonna make us better.

I'm not "anti-Hayward". I'm just realistic about the situation. Why is the point of resigning him when we have Tatum max coming, and a Smart and maybe RWill re-ups coming?

Fair but whom are we gonna add that’s gonna make us better? We could add a mediocre big like Myles Turner but then suddenly we have no future avenues to improve at the big man spot. Trading Hayward for a guard or forward invites the same problem you already talked about, but potentially with a player who doesn’t move the ball or playmake as well as Hayward. I think there is a good chance we can resign him at a decent price tag.

[JHTruth]

I didn’t realize this board was so anti Hayward now. It’s one thing if we need to save money, but I don’t think Ainge is gonna be rushing to sell low on Hayward after he was clearly injured and affected by his injury against Miami. A trade at the deadline would be more understandable. We are a distinctly better team when Hayward is healthy and swapping him for some ok scorer or big is not gonna make us better.

I'm not "anti-Hayward". I'm just realistic about the situation. Why is the point of resigning him when we have Tatum max coming, and a Smart and maybe RWill re-ups coming?

Fair but whom are we gonna add that’s gonna make us better? We could add a mediocre big like Myles Turner but then suddenly we have no future avenues to improve at the big man spot. Trading Hayward for a guard or forward invites the same problem you already talked about, but potentially with a player who doesn’t move the ball or playmake as well as Hayward. I think there is a good chance we can resign him at a decent price tag.

Are we sure he wants to resign here? He's looking at being a 4th banana at best. Maybe he wants to have a bigger role someplace else

[jfs1000d]

Also, Boston shouldn't be building to beat Miami. Boston should be building to be the LA teams. The Lakers are about to **** pump the Heat. Book it. 4-1

The Heat are a weird bubble creation. Well coached, disciplined, good chemistry.

No chance the heat are long term players in the conference.

Bucks, Celts, Nets are too 3 for new their with Heat, Philly and Raps next tier IMO.


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[smith2373]

Sunday - "THIS TEAM IS WAY BETTER WITH HAYWARD AND I'LL FIGHT YOU ABOUT IT"

Monday - "WE'VE GOT TO TRADE HAYWARD"

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In a way, both things can be true.

It can be true that this team as currently constructed is way better with Hayward. It can also be true that for next season trading Hayward might be our best option to give us the flexibility to make meaningful improvements in other areas, (i.e. having an above average starting center or actually having depth.

[ddb]

Also, Boston shouldn't be building to beat Miami. Boston should be building to be the LA teams. The Lakers are about to **** pump the Heat. Book it. 4-1

The Heat are a weird bubble creation. Well coached, disciplined, good chemistry.

No chance the heat are long term players in the conference.

Bucks, Celts, Nets are too 3 for new their with Heat, Philly and Raps next tier IMO.


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Heat are going to sign Greek Freak next summer. Just wait

[JHTruth]

Also, Boston shouldn't be building to beat Miami. Boston should be building to be the LA teams. The Lakers are about to **** pump the Heat. Book it. 4-1

The Heat are a weird bubble creation. Well coached, disciplined, good chemistry.

No chance the heat are long term players in the conference.

Bucks, Celts, Nets are too 3 for new their with Heat, Philly and Raps next tier IMO.


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Heat are going to sign Greek Freak next summer. Just wait

Meh doesn't make much sense with their roster. Bam and Giannis don't complement each other at all. Jimmy is 30. Dragic is ancient. They do have Robinson and Herro I guess.

A place like GS makes so much more sense..

[JHTruth]

Another reason I think it makes a lot of sense to turn the page on Gordon it would be a chemistry/psychological improvement. Not that Gordon is a cancer or anything but it's time to move on from the Kyrie/Horford/Hayward era. Too much bad mojo.