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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1401 » by themoneyteam2 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:47 pm

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themoneyteam2 wrote:This isn't 2k lol. Just an insane laughable thread the past few pages


it really isn't. Hayward/Theis/Picks (Maybe Langford too) is a great package for Turner/Dipo. Dipo is coming off major surgery. Turner has underwhelmed after signing a big contract. Dipo can play his way into a big contract this upcoming season. Plus, now Dipo is asking out. In Hayward Indy pays him big this season but unloads their backup Center (Turner), and an unhappy star. If Hayward is a good fit he can sign there multiple years next offseason. You bring in picks, a useful backup in Theis and take a flier on Langford. Indy is going to retool, they made that pretty clear after letting Nate M go. Ainge/Pitchard have a relationship. Makes sense all around for both teams.


Oh no I agree with that. I meant the people talking about trading Kemba in 3 team trades lol
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Post#1402 » by 100proof » Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:53 pm

CelticFaninLBC wrote:Jared Weiss of The Athletic speculated Oladipo could be part of Hayward deal. Oladipo and Turner for Hayward, Theis, Langford and Ainge's beloved stockpile of picks would be pretty nice.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911029-victor-oladipo-trade-rumors-pacers-star-looking-to-move-on-from-indiana


Im not trading all 3 picks for that.

But im down.
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Post#1403 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:02 pm

100proof wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Jared Weiss of The Athletic speculated Oladipo could be part of Hayward deal. Oladipo and Turner for Hayward, Theis, Langford and Ainge's beloved stockpile of picks would be pretty nice.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911029-victor-oladipo-trade-rumors-pacers-star-looking-to-move-on-from-indiana


Im not trading all 3 picks for that.

But im down.


Yep, not all 3.
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Post#1404 » by yazfan » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:02 pm

I am sick of Athletes under contract demanding trades. Small market teams lose.

I live in Indy and last week it was reported Hayward bought a 3 million dollar house in Indy suburb last summer.

He and his wife are from here, but he never had a home away from his team..... even in Indy.

When in Utah he had SLC home and San Diego vacation home.

Makes you go hmmmmm
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Post#1405 » by Darthlukey » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:06 pm

yazfan wrote:I am sick of Athletes under contract demanding trades. Small market teams lose.

I live in Indy and last week it was reported Hayward bought a 3 million dollar house in Indy suburb last summer.

He and his wife are from here, but he never had a home away from his team..... even in Indy.

When in Utah he had SLC home and San Diego vacation home.

Makes you go hmmmmm

The worst part is now, technically they dont even have to demand a trade as such, they just indicate they wont resign with their existing team and it forces their hand! The ability to extend players much earlier and perhaps sign elite (proven elite, not just speculative talent) players to longer deals might help this. But built into the deal is an automatic no trade clause and if the want a trade, the value of their deal tanks? It's messy and wouldnt be popular, but there has to be some kind of carrot and stick approach. Perhaps a bigger stick will work, as the carrot hasnt
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Post#1406 » by SichtingLives » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:12 pm

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SichtingLives wrote:Danny needs to stand pat on this roster. Our stars are 20 years old, we've got 2 stud all-star vets, the best defensive player in the league, great underrated bigs and a bunch of young players who are going to be excellent role players plus we have the most valuable thing in the league, draft picks. we're basically stacked and sitting pretty. Just a matter of time before we make the leap and run off a few championships. The rebuild just started lets not suddenly become impatient about it and make moves just for the sake of making em. Thats not Danny's MO he's got a plan and ya'll need to have faith.


Let me respond to your post by asking you a couple questions. Why did the Celtics just lose to Miami, and why did they almost lose to Toronto? I'll make an assumption on your response and say that the Celtics just weren't able to close. Which is right. They weren't. Up 6 with 5 minutes to go last night and then the Heat took over down the stretch. why? because they were tougher, stronger, and forced their way to victory while Boston was jacking three's and playing soft. Hayward is soft, Kemba is soft, and Theis is too small to be a starting Center.
Last night the game swung in the Celtics favor as soon as Brad put in Timelord. Timelord is a player...He's a keeper. Turner is a combination of Theis/Timelord. And Dipo is tough and can be a Jimmy Butler type down the stretch.


Oh I was being facetious. This is the company line for why we should be grateful for perennial faux contenders. I don't actually have faith in Ainge's ability to know what a championship roster looks like in this modern era, not 1-5 with a useful bench. His MO is to run inordinate amounts of usage through undersized pg's who become a liability in the playoffs, and he has always had massive blinders for bigs. Like if you're not a KG or Horford level talent he doesn't see it and he's run a scrapheap at the 4 and 5 forever. Even now in an era where only the 5 is a big, it's still scrapheap rotations. Him and Stevens are always pretending its an afterthought bandaid position. There's no afterthought to a spot that plays 48 mpg every game in the playoffs when all the best teams always have that spot covered. We're always trying to win the race with an exhaust leak. It's an ideological conundrum with them and it's not a new thing.

And the bench is always a weak spot.
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Re: Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#1407 » by chrisab123 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:26 pm

100proof wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:Jared Weiss of The Athletic speculated Oladipo could be part of Hayward deal. Oladipo and Turner for Hayward, Theis, Langford and Ainge's beloved stockpile of picks would be pretty nice.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2911029-victor-oladipo-trade-rumors-pacers-star-looking-to-move-on-from-indiana


Im not trading all 3 picks for that.

But im down.


The hell? You make that trade 10 out of 10 times and drive them all to Logan. Stop with the ridiculous prospect love. I feel like this board has stockholm syndrome when it comes to draft picks
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Post#1408 » by Roddy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:29 pm

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Post#1409 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:46 pm

yazfan wrote:I am sick of Athletes under contract demanding trades. Small market teams lose.

I live in Indy and last week it was reported Hayward bought a 3 million dollar house in Indy suburb last summer.

He and his wife are from here, but he never had a home away from his team..... even in Indy.

When in Utah he had SLC home and San Diego vacation home.

Makes you go hmmmmm


Said this a few weeks ago— his family moving back to Indy raised my eyebrows.

I would strongly consider doing 14/Hayward for Turner. Its an overpay, but he’s locked up long term and has chemistry with the main guys.
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Post#1410 » by itrsteve » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:56 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
yazfan wrote:I am sick of Athletes under contract demanding trades. Small market teams lose.

I live in Indy and last week it was reported Hayward bought a 3 million dollar house in Indy suburb last summer.

He and his wife are from here, but he never had a home away from his team..... even in Indy.

When in Utah he had SLC home and San Diego vacation home.

Makes you go hmmmmm


Said this a few weeks ago— his family moving back to Indy raised my eyebrows.

I would strongly consider doing 14/Hayward for Turner. Its an overpay, but he’s locked up long term and has chemistry with the main guys.


Dude, I’m the sole member of the don’t trade Hayward fan club and I’d take this deal all day long. Would love to have Turner, and if it sends Gordo somewhere favorable to him - seems like a win win.
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Post#1411 » by Darthlukey » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:58 pm

itrsteve wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
yazfan wrote:I am sick of Athletes under contract demanding trades. Small market teams lose.

I live in Indy and last week it was reported Hayward bought a 3 million dollar house in Indy suburb last summer.

He and his wife are from here, but he never had a home away from his team..... even in Indy.

When in Utah he had SLC home and San Diego vacation home.

Makes you go hmmmmm


Said this a few weeks ago— his family moving back to Indy raised my eyebrows.

I would strongly consider doing 14/Hayward for Turner. Its an overpay, but he’s locked up long term and has chemistry with the main guys.


Dude, I’m the sole member of the don’t trade Hayward fan club and I’d take this deal all day long. Would love to have Turner, and if it sends Gordo somewhere favorable to him - seems like a win win.

Dont we need to take on some more salary in a Gordon/Turner trade?
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Post#1412 » by itrsteve » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:08 pm

Darthlukey wrote:
itrsteve wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Said this a few weeks ago— his family moving back to Indy raised my eyebrows.

I would strongly consider doing 14/Hayward for Turner. Its an overpay, but he’s locked up long term and has chemistry with the main guys.


Dude, I’m the sole member of the don’t trade Hayward fan club and I’d take this deal all day long. Would love to have Turner, and if it sends Gordo somewhere favorable to him - seems like a win win.

Dont we need to take on some more salary in a Gordon/Turner trade?


Oh yeah for sure, it couldn’t be straight up.

The problem for them is that Dipo and Turner want out, so they lose a ton of leverage. So you could make a salary match argument even if there’s a talent loss.

We could make a very Indiana-centric offer with Hayward, Langford and Butler (the locals should eat it up). Throw on Thies and a bunch of picks and there’s a compelling trade for Indiana to ship both then pick up Gordon Retireward for peanuts at the end of next season.
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Post#1413 » by reload141 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:08 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
yazfan wrote:I am sick of Athletes under contract demanding trades. Small market teams lose.

I live in Indy and last week it was reported Hayward bought a 3 million dollar house in Indy suburb last summer.

He and his wife are from here, but he never had a home away from his team..... even in Indy.

When in Utah he had SLC home and San Diego vacation home.

Makes you go hmmmmm


Said this a few weeks ago— his family moving back to Indy raised my eyebrows.

I would strongly consider doing 14/Hayward for Turner. Its an overpay, but he’s locked up long term and has chemistry with the main guys.


Turner & McDermott please
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Post#1414 » by Darthlukey » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:15 pm

itrsteve wrote:
Darthlukey wrote:
itrsteve wrote:
Dude, I’m the sole member of the don’t trade Hayward fan club and I’d take this deal all day long. Would love to have Turner, and if it sends Gordo somewhere favorable to him - seems like a win win.

Dont we need to take on some more salary in a Gordon/Turner trade?


Oh yeah for sure, it couldn’t be straight up.

The problem for them is that Dipo and Turner want out, so they lose a ton of leverage. So you could make a salary match argument even if there’s a talent loss.

We could make a very Indiana-centric offer with Hayward, Langford and Butler (the locals should eat it up). Throw on Thies and a bunch of picks and there’s a compelling trade for Indiana to ship both then pick up Gordon Retireward for peanuts at the end of next season.

I didnt know Turner actually wanted out, where did you read this?
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Post#1415 » by chrisab123 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:19 pm

I wonder what would happen to this board if Tatum went to Danny and said he's not signing the max extension. Would this board still want to get younger or would they want the Celtics to get some actual veterans on the bench that can fill out this roster.

I think Ainge doesn't believe Stevens can coach veterans. He's also right.
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Post#1416 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:19 pm

ddb wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Dipo is v intriguing, but would him and Kemba work together? They seem to be the same type of player


Dipo and Kemba are not the same type player. First of all, Dipo is an accomplished Piano player, singer, and dancer.

and he is 6’4” something Kemba can only dream of being.
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Post#1417 » by reload141 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:28 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
ddb wrote:
GoGreen wrote:Dipo is v intriguing, but would him and Kemba work together? They seem to be the same type of player


Dipo and Kemba are not the same type player. First of all, Dipo is an accomplished Piano player, singer, and dancer.

and he is 6’4” something Kemba can only dream of being.


And Kemba has a smile that only Dipo can dream of.
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Post#1418 » by 100proof » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:35 pm

my god pacers fans are crazy.

Claiming Dipo is worth the #2 pick.

Of that Celtics would have to trade Smart, Hayward, Theis, #14, $26 and a future first to get Dipo and Turner. lolololol

They fail to realize that Theis has a better statistical season than Turner in everything other than 3pt attempted and blocks and that Hayward had a better career, and a better last 2 seasons than Dipo and is less of an injury repeating concern and far less of a flight risk in free agency.

They wil be really sad and shocked when he gets traded for pennies on the dollar. And expiring, quad tendon completely blown hasnt played in well over a year only had 1 good year in the nba player who is demanding out because he wants more playing time to earn a max contract is not the most valuable of trade chip/
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Post#1419 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:37 pm

reload141 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
ddb wrote:
Dipo and Kemba are not the same type player. First of all, Dipo is an accomplished Piano player, singer, and dancer.

and he is 6’4” something Kemba can only dream of being.


And Kemba has a smile that only Dipo can dream of.

I think Kemba gets too much grief for the Miami series. Yes he has defensive limitations but the Celtics already knew that when they signed him.

Kemba averaged about 20,5,5 on decent shooting numbers against Miami. Can’t expect much more from him given the team makeup in my opinion.
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Post#1420 » by Green89 » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:42 pm

Dipo is exactly the guy we need. Checks a lot of boxes. Good size, great defense, and he can absolutely hit clutch shots at the end of games.

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